Problem with Dummy casting Blizzard

[Phuqinhell]

Hello, so i have this unit with a Channel based ability and when he is attacked he is ordered to use it, and when its triggered it creates 5 dummys, each with a blizzard based ability and is ordered to cast this blizzard at a random location
the blizzard is set to have 8 waves with 1 second between each wave and the dummy's duration is set to 10 seconds before it's removed

and all this is working just fine when the owner of that unit is a human player BUT when the owner of that unit is a computer, the blizzard ability that the dummy has been given only gets to cast for 3 waves instead of 8 wich seems soooo wierd to me

the dummy is invulnerable and has the locust ability so it should not be able to be interrupted in any way right?
anyone knows anything about this issue or what the cause could be?

Grateful for any help!

 

[DracoL1ch]

make sure this dummy has no attack or move ability so AI wont try to use him anyhow

 

[Phuqinhell]

This is how my Dummy Unit looks

 

[Uncle]

Set your Dummy's movement type to None, Death Type to Can't raise does not decay, Can Flee = False, Is Building = False.

The main stats that matter for a Dummy:
Cast Point/Cast Backswing = 0.
Attacks Enabled = None.
Death Type = Can't raise, does not decay.
Movement Type = None.
Speed Base = 0.

That and of course give it the Locust ability and hide the model.

It's much easier if you copy the Locust unit and create a Dummy from that.

 

[Phuqinhell]

Really appreciate the quick replys!

I made the changes to my own already existing dummy unit and i created a new one based of the locust unit and made the necessary changes on him aswell
Unfortunately it did not solve the problem, however, the blizzard is behaving abit differently now and some of those 5 dummy units are actually doing all 8 waves but some still dont, really wierd

Edit: and it still all works just fine when the casting unit is controlled by me

 

[Uncle]

I'm not sure, can you post your triggers?

Also, confirm that you don't have other triggers that may issue orders to these dummys.

 

[Phuqinhell]

Here is the Channel based ability, Blizzard based ability, Order attacked unit trigger and order dummy trigger

Also, i only found one trigger that is a little bit of a suspect but i really don't think its the cause of it but who knows

 

[Uncle]

I'm pretty sure units with the Locust ability will ignore Pick Every Unit functions by default, could be wrong though.

That being said, I'm not too sure why this is happening but I feel like I've seen this happen before. Have you searched for other similar threads?

Also, might I recommend a For Loop for that Dummy Blizzard spell, could clean it up quite nicely. Just need an Array of Points instead.

Edit:
Try creating a trigger that catches when a Dummy issues any order and display the issued order in a text message.
Maybe you can figure out what it's being told to do instead of channeling blizzard. Not sure if Computers trigger these Events though...

 

[Phuqinhell]

I have searched a little bit on threads with people having issues with dummys casting spells but no one had a problem with a dummy not working when its only controlled by a AI and then work perfectly fine when the controller is a human

I'll try and do some more troubleshooting, hopefully i can find something

Thank you for your time though =)

Edit: I did some troubleshooting and i found that the dummy unit is getting interupted by an issue no target order, the order is often interupting the dummy when the blizzard have reached its third wave but sometimes it can interupt much later and in some rare cases even not at all, so wierd...

However, i have no clue at all what order is being given or what triggers or settings that may cause this, is there any way to improve this troubleshooting and get a more specific answer?

 

[Dr Super Good]

However, i have no clue at all what order is being given or what triggers or settings that may cause this, is there any way to improve this troubleshooting and get a more specific answer?

Print the order string for the triggering order. If that returns an empty string then print the order ID integer since that will represent an actual order. Even if you do not know what order it is, searching the internet for that order integer might reveal what it is.

 

[Phuqinhell]

Ok, so since i'm a noob at these things i got help from a friend with some more accurately troubleshooting and with that i found the issued no target orders ID, wich is 851974

I didnt find it here JASS/script.j at master · nestharus/JASS

So i googled some more and it turns out its some unknown order from when units are created for AI controlled slots, in some way it interupts channeling based abilitys on the dummys but i found an answer in this thread from early 2018 that actually had the exact same problem that i had

Dummy Units for Computer Players get unwanted orders

Greetings, Hive! I have been investigating a bug in my map where a Dummy unit owned by an enemy, computer-controlled player, got interrupted when it started casting it's channeling spell - Rain of Fire. My investigation led me to discover that as soon as the Dummy spawned for its player (12...

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This is from another user in that thread saying this:

I bet that it is the 851974 immediate order. However, nobody has really reported what it does. Only AI is capable of executing it, and generally, for stopping a unit from channeling an ability. If you try to make a unit execute it, it won't do anything, and the function IssueImmediateOrderById returns false.

With that being said the answer to stop this is to add this after the dummy unit is created

AI - Ignore (Last created unit)'s guard position

 

[Dr Super Good]

Oh it might be related to their guard position behaviour. Basically the channel gets interrupted because the unit "leashes" back to its guard position. The order might be internally used to signal units to return to their guard position, which is usually where they were created.

 

[Phuqinhell]

That seems to be the case

However, in my map i have set Creeps - Guard Return Time to 9999 so it seems abit wierd to me but maybe dummys is not affacted by this?

 

[doom_sheep]

neutrals will do ridiculous things if you don't do it.