Problem: Pop-Up Doobads

[Thrikodius]

I have a slight problem. In my cinematic I want the camera to "fall" slowly into the forest. The problem is that when the camera falls into a sertain possiton a set of trees just pop up out of thin air.
Is it possible to make the doobads visible at all time? I based the trees of shrub if that makes any difference.

Here are two screenshots to display what I mean. They come about 0.5 seconds after each other.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

You can't do that. Unless you make it 'grow' up.

And why am i in your signature

 

[Thrikodius]

I don't want them to grow up. I want them to stay that way all the time.

And you're in my sig cause you told me about the third stupid law. It's a simple case of credits.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Hehe, fair

But no, trees cant 'fade' in, unless you got some models of the trees (You can get that in the WEU, then just use the unit 'tree' and Vertex modify it.

But i can see that its custom doodads, so you can easy do that without. Just make thoose trees into units, and trigger 'Unit - Change vertex coloring 255-255-255-100'
The 100 should be how transparent. I would start with 0 and fade to 100 over 2 seconds or such.

Ps. No problem

 

[Gilles]

I still don't see why Blizzard didn't include terrain distance into the actual game.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

cause its warcraft3? lol thus game is gething pretty old..

 

[Craka_J]

This problem occurs a lot with custom models and sometimes even original WarCraft III models made by Blizzard Entertainment when the model's scale value is increased in the Object Editor. I have no clue why this happens, but usually it's a problem with the model itself and only a modeler can fix or at least ease the problem some how, as far as I know. Models usually disappear when they are near any of the edges of the screen or if you go too far away from them. Some models disappear when you go too close; and I'm not talking about the Field of View problem.

The chances of fixing your tree model problem are very slim. I say, just deal with it like the rest of the terrainers do. Otherwise, find a modeler whom is good with making models and ask if they know how to or if they can fix the issue with your model(s).

~Craka_J

 

[Thrikodius]

Well I am already... accepting it. If I have time I will try ThBlooddancers tip but only if I have time.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

hmm.. i think this is a case of " a screwed up heightmap of trees >.> "

almost unavoidable. You could try and change the camera angle a bit. Sometimes the camera can screw up the heightmap. Perhaps, if you change the z offset, and /or the distance...

 

[Eleandor]

This problem occurs a lot with custom models and sometimes even original WarCraft III models made by Blizzard Entertainment when the model's scale value is increased in the Object Editor. I have no clue why this happens, but usually it's a problem with the model itself and only a modeler can fix or at least ease the problem some how,

I personally think, but cannot confirm, that it's not a problem related to the model. It's simply the way the warcraft 3 renderer works. I think that whenever the coordinates (X,Y) of a doodad are no longer visible on the screen, the whole model is considered "invisible" and disappears. I've done some tests and that's what I think...

That also means that there simply is no solution.

 

[TheDivineBoss]

What you can try is to let some leaf pictures or something pop up when you are 'in' the tree, so it'll look like you are going through the leaves and such.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Why don't you just use EFF? (Eccho's Fading Filter)
It can fade units, depending on distance.
If you make all the trees Units, with tree models, its win.

 

[Craka_J]

I personally think, but cannot confirm, that it's not a problem related to the model. It's simply the way the warcraft 3 renderer works. I think that whenever the coordinates (X,Y) of a doodad are no longer visible on the screen, the whole model is considered "invisible" and disappears. I've done some tests and that's what I think...

That also means that there simply is no solution.

If this is true, then why is it that specific models vanish, while others do not? Why does the Barracks model, as well as the rest of the WC3 models, not vanish? Seems a bit confusing.

~Craka_J

 

[Thrikodius]

Well I am already... accepting it. If I have time I will try TheBlooddancers tip but only if I have time.

OMG can you people read all the posts? I have untill saturday to finish the cinematic and I have to put the story in highest priority. If there had been a simple solution I would have done it but these things you are suggesting will take too much time.