Parasite 3 v1.07

[Garfield1337]

The message for teamkill is still bugged,it always shows red player as dying player (you can see it in attached replay,but don't change viewed player else it won't show game messages).
Except for that,
bureaulamp told me he couldn't activate some terminal abilities that require captain card even though he was captain. He received messages saying he's not authorized to do it (He tried to disable bomb vendor).

In attached replay you can also see how to spam link mines - watch red player from 6th min.

And umm..when i died in jail,my corpse was floating. I was standing near the edge of the bars though.

You can see all of these in attached replay.

 

[Vampir1991]

Hello, Cronos look at this.
We have found another bug about parasites and people.
1. If you turn off the oxygen and kill himself, the corpse disappears.
2. Bug with a chainsaw, if we take the body and the player the ability to use the 50 mana is the velocity of the mad. From what can be stuck on the heights. In the 2 file there is this.
3. Bug with resurrection worsened if the parasite infects himself again. Then he is given another hero from which he treated himself to 2 times faster, the horror.

By the way, I have long been out with friends in your playing cards, thank you that you're doing them. If we're in garena Russian RPG room 03.

 

[Farew311]

Bug

Not sure if I'm not doing it right or what but I can't get the drones to teleport floors...

 

[Cronos]

@Garfield1337: I was finally able to identify the problem associated with the team kill bug and fix it. Also I fixed the issue that prevented a person with the captain's card from opening jail doors. As for the problem that prevents someone from using the captain features even with a captain's card, I looked into it and I couldnt find anything wrong with the triggering, it all looks good. Did bureaulamp have the captain's card on him at the time he tried to use the bomb turn off/on, and blood test turn off/on?

@Vampir1991: Thanks for the help, I wasn't able to open your replay files for some reason though, but I will look into the bugs you mentioned and see what I can do.

@Farew311: There should be no problem with teleporting services drones across floors, I'll check it out though.

I'll have a new version with said bug fixes up soon.

 

[Garfield1337]

As for the problem that prevents someone from using the captain features even with a captain's card, I looked into it and I couldnt find anything wrong with the triggering, it all looks good. Did bureaulamp have the captain's card on him at the time he tried to use the bomb turn off/on, and blood test turn off/on?

Look in attached replay,around 2:25. Bureaulamp is in control room and he gets messages that say he's not authorized to perform some actions. (Don't change viewed player or else messages won't show)

 

[Vampir1991]

New bug. Super Stimpik.
All see this bug is something I've laughed for a long time.

 

[kiloneie]

DarkShoGun why aren't you on infestationforums anymore ?
We played on 16th January together xD. On that day i wanted to see few things on infestation and found para 3 and then later you cuz para 2 bot shutdown and i hosted ;D.

 

[Cronos]

I rarely go there anymore because I been getting more feed back here, but if you're posting there ill try to visit more.

Garf, I tested those captain commands, and they work fine.

 

[kiloneie]

I rarely go there anymore because I been getting more feed back here, but if you're posting there ill try to visit more.

Garf, I tested those captain commands, and they work fine.

Why some things and consoles don't work with interact ?
You do know im making Cruiser Command in 2D :O ? After it's done im gona make Parasite in 2D from previous engine .

 

[Cronos]

Map updated.

v0.3.3

BUG FIXES
- Fixed a bug that always displayed red as the one murdered when someone team kills.
- Fixed a bug that prevented the captain from opening jail doors.
- Fixed a bug regarding sniper mode for the HAR weapon.
- Fixed a bug that allowed the parasite to infect itself, and other aliens.

GAMEPLAY CHANGES
- Increased heal rate of the iatric suit's alleviation ability from 10 to 15.
- Increased the energy cost of the demolition suit's link mine ability from 20 to 30.
- Decreased the damage of link mines from 150 to 100.
- Added a vote system for jailing team killers.
- A player is now only dubbed a team killer if the human it kills dies permanently (didnt revive in time or wasnt spawned).

I think I may have missed some bug fixes I did, couldn't remember them all... oh well. The game is starting to look a little more stable, i'll start adding in the rest of the features including parasite evolving, space, the rest of the weapons and armor suits, and the AI. I also plan on getting rid of the outdoors area. The base will eventually become the space station, thus the doors that use to take you outside will be closed off.

Why some things and consoles don't work with interact ?
You do know im making Cruiser Command in 2D :O ? After it's done im gona make Parasite in 2D from previous engine .

The consoles with red circles are ones I haven't implemented yet, and are these warcraft 3 maps?

 

[kiloneie]

Map updated.

v0.3.3

BUG FIXES
- Fixed a bug that always displayed red as the one murdered when someone team kills.
- Fixed a bug that prevented the captain from unlocking jail doors.
- Fixed a bug regarding sniper mode for the HAR weapon.
- Fixed a bug that allowed the parasite to infect itself, and other aliens.

GAMEPLAY CHANGES
- Increased heal rate of the iatric suit's alleviation ability from 10 to 15.
- Increased the energy cost of the demolition suit's link mine ability from 20 to 30.
- Decreased the damage of link mines from 150 to 100.
- Added a vote system for jailing team killers.
- A player is now only dubbed a team killer if the human it kills dies permanently (didnt revive in time or wasnt spawned).

I think I may have missed some bug fixes I did, couldn't remember them all... oh well. The game is starting to look a little more stable, i'll start adding in the rest of the features including parasite evolving, space, the rest of the weapons and armor suits, and the AI. I also plan on getting rid of the outdoors area. The base will eventually become the space station, thus the doors that use to take you outside will be closed off.

cool .

 

[Garfield1337]

Garf, I tested those captain commands, and they work fine.

I'll test new version soon and tell you if it works fine

 

[kiloneie]

Hey DarkShoGun could i help you working on Alien Evolutions and Weapons and Items ?
I could give you demo of every thing made in a small map and sent to you or writen in notepad and such.

 

[Vampir1991]

Hmm, but what is so tough to create a folder Parasite 3 and put it in maps. That type of so \Maps\Parasite 3.
This is because anyone can do or you do not run through the Warcraft 3?

 

[kiloneie]

Hmm, but what is so tough to create a folder Parasite 3 and put it in maps. That type of so \Maps\Parasite 3.
This is because anyone can do or you do not run through the Warcraft 3?

Maps are protected kiddo if you ever succed opening it you get a huge mess all triger wrong and such.

 

[Cronos]

Hey DarkShoGun could i help you working on Alien Evolutions and Weapons and Items ?
I could give you demo of every thing made in a small map and sent to you or writen in notepad and such.

Thanks, but no thanks. That just takes the fun out of it for me. Besides, I have pretty much already got it all thought out, save for a few things here and there.

 

[kiloneie]

Thanks, but no thanks. That just takes the fun out of it for me. Besides, I have pretty much already got it all thought out, save for a few things here and there.

(( but le me suggest you good evolutions atleast i know what is fun to play and what isn't !

 

[Vampir1991]

Maps are protected kiddo if you ever succed opening it you get a huge mess all triger wrong and such.

Protection of Maps, I know not teach me. I myself am doing maps and all that jazz.

 

[ap0calypse]

Maps are protected kiddo if you ever succed opening it you get a huge mess all triger wrong and such.

Map deprotection is easy.
Protecting maps to keep others from accessing it is as stupid as it is counterproductive.

The only valid reason to 'protect' a map is not to protect it, but to optimize it. Completely different, yet has the same (and even better) effects.

 

[Cronos]

(( but le me suggest you good evolutions atleast i know what is fun to play and what isn't !

I already have some good ones myself, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to see your ideas.

Protecting maps to keep others from accessing it is as stupid as it is counterproductive.

I chuckled.

 

[Vampir1991]

Map handled special software that reduces the weight of the cards are cards that weigh under 10 mb, and they should reap up to 8MB or less. Oh, and that the download was quick.

 

[Tanasren]

I chuckled.

why ?

 

[SasuhKun]

How long until next version?

The buggy alien is so annoying... If you transform, you can't transform back... or regen health, mana, ANYTHING.

 

[Tleno]

Erm I'd say protecting maps is worth only if you made some very popular map that has very high possibilities to get stolen, or if you want to decrease filesize...
But nowdays, when Warcraft 3 popularity is so low, I wouldn't say there's high possibility of map getting stolen, and I wouldn't say this one is a very big filesize map...

 

[Cronos]

The map protection actually increases the map size, by about 2.5%, but its worth it even if its not full proof.

Here are the updates...


v0.3.4

BUG FIXES
- Fixed a hotkey and button placement issue regarding cloaking for the covert suit.
- Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented humans from reloading.
- Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented the parasite from using its interface abilities, and regenerate health.

GAMEPLAY CHANGES
- Decreased Spawn HP from 500 to 450.
- Decreased Spawn movement speed from 320 to 290.
- Decreased the amount of move speed reduced from neurotoxin from 30% to 20%.
- Decreased the damage of the Bio Plasmid Gun for Spawns from 5 to 4.
- Increased duration of force field from 5 to 8 seconds.
- Modified muscular augment so that bonus move speed stays constant until the effect ends.
- Decreased move speed bonus from muscular augment from 30% to 20%.
- Modified team killer jailing so that team killers are automatically jailed if their victim permanently dies (wasnt revived or spawned in time).

 

[Garfield1337]

Spawns need lesser regeneration,rather than less health. Service drone can't damage spawns due to their regeneration. Not to mention i noticed it's hard to kill spawn because if he runs - he regenerates more than humans can damage him while running.

 

[ap0calypse]

The map protection actually increases the map size, by about 2.5%, but its worth it even if its not full proof.

That's because you don't know how to do it correctly.

As I have said before, protecting a map so others cannot open it is foolish.
I can deprotect your map within 5 minutes, and if it even increases the file size it makes it all the more stupid to protect a map.

Only people with an avarage amount of map knowledge can deprotect maps, so because of map protection, new people cannot learn how to use the world editor correctly.
Let's say you left your map unprotected and a newb steals it, then it will never be accepted on any reasonable site (because the newb won't be able to do anything good with the map).
However, an avarage person can steal it, but then again: they can also deprotect it.
And in case someone deprotected your map (as said before, piece of cake), the chance that they'll mention you in the credits is near 0%. You don't have that problem with open-source maps, who would be lame enough to steal something that is open-source?
Due to protection, people like me won't give reviews as easily (I use the editor as a starting point, if I cannot open the map in the editor I won't be that happy to give a review).

Let's sum it up:

• New people cannot learn.
• Deprotection is easy for someone with avarage mapping knowledge.
• Increases file size.
• In case someone steals it, they'll probably do anything to erase your name from the map.
• You get less extended reviews.

Now tell me again, why would you protect your map?


The only correct map protection is map optimization, which decreases the file size and has a completely different goal than the regular protection.
There, I said it.

 

[Garfield1337]

I partially agree,ap0c,but still...
It's true that it isn't hard to deprotect map,but there are people that might

Spoiler

screw

up your map,make some omgwtfbbq versions with imba things. Such people are mostly inexperienced with editor and with map deprotecting and pretty much won't bother doing it if it's protected.

 

[ap0calypse]

I partially agree,ap0c,but still,
It's true that it isn't hard to deprotect map,but there are people that might screw up your map,make some omgwtfbbq versions with imba things. Such people are mostly inexperienced with editor and with map deprotecting and pretty much won't bother doing it if it's protected.

Let's say you left your map unprotected and a newb steals it, then it will never be accepted on any reasonable site (because the newb won't be able to do anything good with the map).

That point has already been covered.

 

[Garfield1337]

Any reasonable site...
Many people download maps from epicwar at which anything can be uploaded.

This is off-topic though,we should stop it.

In case DSG misses my post (due to disputation),i'll quote it

Spawns need lesser regeneration,rather than less health. Service drone can't damage spawns due to their regeneration. Not to mention i noticed it's hard to kill spawn because if he runs - he regenerates more than humans can damage him while running.

 

[Cronos]

The hp regen wasnt suppose to be that high. I updated the map again, with the high regen for spawns fixed, and their hp returned to 500.

Also apocalypse, if you want to teach me how to protect maps better I will definitely take that into consideration, otherwise your points are pretty much meaningless to me. I would rather have some protection than none at all.

 

[ap0calypse]

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=79326.
No tutorial/teaching required.

You can easily lower the file size by 15-20% with that tool.
How it works: it removes WE-only data, meaning it cannot be opened in the WE either.
This is how protection should be: removing unnecessary files to lower the file size and - coincidentally - also actually protect the map while doing so.

 

[SasuhKun]

There should be a fixed thread on Hive with that tool or something. Not many people know about it.

Still... Yay for new version!

 

[Cronos]

Thanks for the heads up Apoc, I'll be releasing an open source version sometime after the game is gold status.

 

[kiloneie]

Thanks for the heads up Apoc, I'll be releasing an open source version sometime after the game is gold status.

Well if you have put really much of work and so no into the map then it'sa bad idea but anyways warcraft 3 is gonig to rot like diablo 2 is currently until they will eventually give less and less hosting performance on the game until they will shut it down like Diablo 2 is going to be, currently it lags 10x as it did 4 years ago and there still were newcomers at that point now it's full of cheater and geeks...

Well ill research your map if you release a public version to make a 2D version of it as a real computer game.

 

[crawlers]

i have idea that i want in this map

it will be parasite chosing (allowing people who want para to get para and people who dont want para not to get para)

heres how it will work

at game start it will poll people if they want to be para or not
votes must be secret
para will be chosen randomly out of the yes group
if there is no yes group it is chosen out of the no group

 

[Tanasren]

yes i already suggested two or three times xD never been answered !
a windows would pop at start and its confidential and only those who voted yes could be designed as parasite

 

[Garfield1337]

Why would anyone not want para? It's interesting to play. Surely more interesting than humans...
Though it would allow people new to the game to skip being para thus not ruining it.

 

[Vampir1991]

Random people, more like, this makes the game a sudden think that the master player parasite. And it appears rookie. This makes the game interesting.

 

[kiloneie]

i have idea that i want in this map

it will be parasite chosing (allowing people who want para to get para and people who dont want para not to get para)

heres how it will work

at game start it will poll people if they want to be para or not
votes must be secret
para will be chosen randomly out of the yes group
if there is no yes group it is chosen out of the no group

Very bad idea... it could lead into constant choosing of few people and other would never be....

 

[Garfield1337]

@kiloneie,
Why do you think that would happen? If many people choose that they want para,then it will mostly be random. I think most people would want para anyway,only those who are new wouldn't.

 

[SasuhKun]

So, DSG. Updates incoming?

 

[kiloneie]

@kiloneie,
Why do you think that would happen? If many people choose that they want para,then it will mostly be random. I think most people would want para anyway,only those who are new wouldn't.

Mistake :O.

 

[Garfield1337]

Well,votes would be secret. One can lie you saying he didn't vote for himself being parasite and he gets it.
Also it wouldn't really affect teaming much.

Oh wait...i think you misunderstood this feature.
It's voting if YOU want to be para or not,not voting for others.
Could be useful since

it would allow people new to the game to skip being para thus not ruining it.

 

[kiloneie]

Well,votes would be secret. One can lie you saying he didn't vote for himself being parasite and he gets it.
Also it wouldn't really affect teaming much.

Oh wait...i think you misunderstood this feature.
It's voting if YOU want to be para or not,not voting for others.
Could be useful since

Mistake :O.

 

[Garfield1337]

I don't see how can this be abused,can you explain?

 

[kiloneie]

I don't see how can this be abused,can you explain?

I explained 2 times already but fine:
For example 3 guys which are friends meet on skype they go play Parasite 3 and they vote on ksype which want be parasite and then they go to game and game starts at begin voting begins. Those 3 guys already voted their own way and they vote for their skype vote winner and then that guy becomes secretly cerebrate exept to these 3 guys and then over skype he tells them to meet for example in cantina. There he infects them at very start of the game that way he evolves 3x faster and people in game just :O to the popping up messages of parasite evolution and then those 3 parasite guys just team and infest all other humans and game ends.

This is an example how unfair it could be they because they voted ( 3 votes on 1 guy ) become cerebrate and other people have just 1 vote their own...

 

[Garfield1337]

Oh wait...i think you misunderstood this feature.
It's voting if YOU want to be para or not,not voting for others.

I already said you can't vote for others,you only only vote if you want to be para.
So people can't make a deal who they want to be para. They can,if they want,make a deal who won't be.

 

[Tanasren]

lol@kiloneie i dont even read what u say coz u keep saying bullshit

and garfield, some players don't want to be para, it will only affect few players, like beginners (advertise in the dialog box "Parasite (not for beginner)"), teamkillers, and some pros that are bored of being parasite because it's too easy. And i even met guys who didn't want to be parasites in parasite 2.
I support this because i think it shouldn't be too hard to add (but lol i don't really know) and it would avoid some games ruined by leavers or beginners.

 

[Garfield1337]

and garfield, some players don't want to be para, it will only affect few players, like beginners (advertise in the dialog box "Parasite (not for beginner)"), teamkillers, and some pros that are bored of being parasite because it's too easy. And i even met guys who didn't want to be parasites in parasite 2.
I support this because i think it shouldn't be too hard to add (but lol i don't really know) and it would avoid some games ruined by leavers or beginners.

That's what i keep saying
I support it too.