Ninja Craft 1.7

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Vengeancekael
Date: 2012/Nov/18 00:13:07

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Comment:

The terrain is acceptable, nothing shockingly amazing, but okay for an AoS. However the top right part (top lane at the evil's side) is a bit flat and empty, add some grass and add small random height differences. -Talking about the beach area-
The overall gameplay is lacking due to the lack of real custom spells, the Blood mage only has a custom ultimate and that's it. These default heroes really get tiring when you've played Warcraft 3 for so long.

Some suggestions:

• Colorize the in-game text appropriately to make it more readable and better looking to the eye
• Add info about the gameplay, etc. in the quest log
• Also I suggest you post the credits in a quest in-game and in the hive description.
• If you're gonna use custom commandbutton icons, replace all of them
• The Forces of Evil's minions in mid lane come a bit too late, only 1 mage and 1 melee are present when they clash with all of the forces of good's minions, the rest comes a bit later

Acceptable

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Date: 12:57:42 18-Aug-12
Map Moderator: -Kobas-
Map Status: Approved 2/5
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Comment: Passive icons should use PAS icon type. Terrain can be improved, also fix hero attack speeds, backswing and such values, you can't farm nicely with some heroes, because of delay before/after actual attacks (this offten happens when you copy and paste heroes and then change models). Maybe some more effects.

 

[Narandza]

I'm thinking of adding this border to every ultimate and adding all heroes 1 initial spell.
Please some feedback!

 

[neven1]

lol Preview Picture looks funny =D

 

[Narandza]

I'll maybe add a serbian or german version. It would be epic to do that!

 

[Masokist91]

Short review about your map :
-Nice map with potential
-Seems stable
-Too simplistic

Ups : - mods of the map
- terrain wich is epic and beatifull i like the river part alot btw
- map seems neat
Downs: - heroes and their skill tree
- too much of a dota-rippoff
- overall imbalance and stupid aggro (for example towers are way too strong) at least for beggining

Overall Rating : Terrain - 5/5
Ideea - 4/5 (the 2 lanes alternative is cool)
Gameplay - 5/5 (seems neat)
Balance - 2/5
Originality - 1/5
Fun Factor - 5/5
Replayability - 5/5 (with more items recipies)
Quality Of Work - 5/5
Cosmetics - 3/5
Mechanics - 1/5 (at least the multiboard is not that great aggro the same and i did not see some ingenious mechanics ingame)

Overall Rating : 3.6/5 wich is a 4/5 rating and a Big Vote for approval !


by Masokist91

 

[Narandza]

Thanks a lot man, I will improve heroes in next versions, I will also add more items, and I didn't know my terrain was nice I thought it deserved 3/5. Scourge towers currently have more damage (I missed that its really imabarrasing)
Creeps have a simple AI due to Computer (Normal) which controls them, tower aim low hp units first, creeps chase you if you're low.
I'll also decrease unit damage and hp in next version.
I also have special effect leaks which I don't know how to fix. Crypt Lord's impaling stomp leaves traces.
Thanks again for the review, I've been waiting for this for like a week, comments inspire me and I'll defently continue working on it.

I NEED IDEAS PLEASE POST SOME IN COMMENTS! (Items, Spells, Heroes)

I've just figured out that agility must give attack speed, otherwise its really unuseful, ill make it add 0.5 per point...
Will probably change demon hunter

Metamorphosis into something more fun...

 

[Tanasren]

The picture is funny.

 

[Narandza]

OMFG There's something seriously wrong with animations, I'll try to fix it.
Ok, I've been testing and figured out that, whenever a unit is being attack, before it takes damage, it plays the stand animation like you issued stop. Anywhore, crypt fiend play the burrow animation, so wtf? Someone help!
Demon Hunter plays the morphed animation when attacked... -.- what kind of a bug is this?

 

[GLB]

I'll maybe add a serbian or german version. It would be epic to do that!

I thought about doing something like that with my maps (English, French, German), but I didn't do it eventually because you would obtain splitted versions of the same map. However, you can easily do that ingame: you must create 3 versions of every spell and every item (German, English, Serbian) and then place them via triggers. Ingame messages can be done via string arrays. I know a map that did that (English, German) and turned out to be very good!

Greetings,


GLB


EDIT: for your animation problem, do you use any damage detection system?

 

[Narandza]

No, I actually didn't touch anything since the previous version where it worked... I use a trigger for the first hero to do damage to another, gives bonus gold, tried turning it off and then re starting the map, didn't help...

 

[Freeze87]

I downloaded map, so i will test it and you will get my comment soon



Edit: you are in my friend list and from my country but i will be more realistic than other people who posted comments....


Originality: 1/5 (you have a lot of map like this, i dont see any important difference).
Balance: 2/5 (lot of units and items need more balance).
Terrain: 3/5 (not bad).
Custom Stuff: 2/5 (not so much custom stuff,but maybe you dont want to increase map size?).
Gameplay: 3/5 (map is not boring but you need more stuff...you alredy now that).

Overal: 2/5


Suggestions:

1. Most immportant if you want to work serious on map, make your map as much posible different from other AOS maps....make unique staff.

2. Add cool preview and Loading Screen.

3. Heroes look unbalanced,some of them get raped in sec from creeps, decrease cd of potions.....to big cd for small amount of healing.

4. Add Map Info (F9) with map description and most important with commands and modes. (btw message with map modes on start needs to last longer, i didnt even read it).

 

[Narandza]

BUT WAIT! There was a bug, please delete this version, I messed up to map preview! (The bug is fixed)

Originality: 1/5 (you have a lot of map like this, i dont see any important difference).

Seriously? Come on I have a couple of things which are unique... and I've just started improving the map.

I'm not listening to the 2nd and 3rd suggestion because i wanted it that way, you're not supposed to drink instant potions in the middle of the battle, they are used for running or surviving a fight - to turn the odds...

 

[Siegfird]

join this Link http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/adventure-wilderness-224537/?prev=status%3Dp%26u%3DSiegfird

 

[Freeze87]

Siegfird: it is not nice to post link of your map in comments of this map....

Narandza: I know that you just started map, that is reason why i didnt rate it, i will wait that you improve it....and then i will give you my raiting....Your unique things in map are? i rly didnt see them, pls write them....

I'm not listening to the 2nd and 3rd suggestion because i wanted it that way, you're not supposed to drink instant potions in the middle of the battle, they are used for running or surviving a fight - to turn the odds...

This is my suggestion:

- make instant potions to have biger cd and to heal less.
- make non-combat potions (which heal over time) to heal more hp and smaller cd.

 

[Narandza]

There already are at least 3 different heal potions over time (2 non combat, 1 combat).

 

[xgeneralthorx]

what the hell this cat? Is the cat from my nightmare D: wtf D:!! Huehuehuehue

 

[GGpuJVSGJ]

LoL... the picture
by the way nice job

 

[Bloody Wolf]

Hmmm adding a initial spell for every heroe sounds pretty sweet i aprove your idea bro

 

[Pr0blemBro]

MY ONLY SUGGESTION IS,
MAKE THE ATTACK ANIMATION DECREASE TO 50%
HOW I AM SUPPOSE TO LAST HIT WHEN IS IT SO SLOW? xD
well 3/5 xD

 

[Narandza]

I am working on everything in upcoming versions, thanks for the support.

 

[Vortballat]

lol your picture

 

[Narandza]

Stop commenting on the picture god damn it! lol
Give some suggestions and stuff... I know the picture is a lol, and the name also, it has nothing to do with the map itself...

 

[Freeze87]

Ideas:

1. Some special wave (example every 10 waves) some super creep....
2. I see that creeps get dmg upgrade every few min to keep up with heroes, but maybe 1 building near shops with upgrades where you can upgrade some special spells for units....example; to leader units (big ones) gain some dmg aura, or some other useful spell...Or some upgrades for buildings....
3. Bulding where you can spawn extra units for next wave for gold.
4. Maybe some special events every few min?


Maybe ideas are stupid, i just pull them in second from my head

I hope that other guys wil lgive some better ideas, i dont have to much time to test map and give ideas...

 

[Narandza]

Thanks for the ideas, I will consider them, I also have a few of mine which I'm working on, but I'm kinda lazy...

 

[useminename]

Good game,but need more originality 4/5

 

[Ognjen19]

Hi Orange .
Terrain is not bad, but needs inprovment .
Heroes are fine (found no bugs :3).
Creep swap is so unbalanced and unfair !
Forces of Evil , easy kill of Forces of God -_-, that is not good in AoS you need balance !
Shops and their placing is horrable .
All in all i give 3,1/5 .
Hope you will update soon if you need any help PM me !

 

[Ognjen19]

Great news ,we will release a new version soon .
So far we intend to change:
Terrain
Balance
And more feutures comming soon .

 

[Narandza]

Well it will be hard releasing a new version when I have to finish what I've started with heroes, but we'll see, and I've changed stats - now agi gives as, str and int give regeneration...

EDIT: Okay so Ognjen19 is too busy to help me, and btw I'm not working on my map recently... no motivation...