New SC2 Unit: Nomad

[LordDz]

Alright, as nobody seems to have made a new thread about this, here we go:

NOMAD ''Flying SCV'' - SC2 Terran Unit.

Builds From: Starport
Armament: None
Role: Battlefield Support/Construction

is an all-around workhorse that combines the functions of light manufacturing center and observation post rolled into one. A common sight among the fringe-world colonies, the nomad is a robust, air-mobile vehicle built to operate independently in all but the harshest climates. Although the nomad shares a number of common traits with its smaller cousin, the SCV, the nomad is a far more specialized and advanced engineering craft.

Nomads are normally employed for first-line colony surveillance and protection duties against dangerous local life forms or climate events. These vehicles boast an impressive array of sensors delicate enough to detect even cloaked or burrowed enemies. By deploying its two aft-mounted nano-welders, the nomad can construct a variety of small, semi-permanent defensive structures to meet various threats in a matter of moments.

Several standard template constructions are available to the nomad, a popular example being the auto turret. This simple robot gun emplacement is suitable for driving off smaller hostile life forms for an extended period of time.

The Terran Dominion initially provided nomads to give low-level protection to its most isolated outposts, typically manning them with local civilians as something akin to a volunteer fire truck or ambulance service. Over time the military support applications of the nomad have seen it deployed in escalating levels of conflict, gradually replacing the older and vastly costlier science vessel.

Link: http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/nomad.xml



Personal Comment: Uglier vessel that I will sure shoot down, but good idéa.

 

[LordDz]

And.. Found another thing, just not worth making a thread for (don't begin disccusing heroes now!)

But veterancy in SC2 exist. Look at this picture of the ghost, what does the Siege Tanks and Marines have, heh? http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/ghost.xml

 

[Mechanical Man]

Man, thats ugly. But I wonder what is point to build scvs then.

 

[LordDz]

Basicly, I don't think they can harvest resources, nor build the most advanced buildings (maybe just turrets?). + They're a replicement for Vessels, so they most be quite high tier..

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

That is one of the ugliest models I've ever seen... also looks useless.

 

[Jaakko]

I agree that the model looks rather strange.

 

[Mecheon]

Its like a flying TF2 Engineer

"Spah's sappin' mah sentry!"

But damn, I can see nasty uses for it if you can get them in somewhere unprotected. Stick a few turrets near an unprotected worker line and watch as your enemy dies horribly

Bonus points if you use them for cover for then landing a group of Siege Tanks. If they can attack air they might be a good choice if you're advancing siege tanks and an opponent is quickly trying to get some air up

 

[Mechanical Man]

And those turrets look like ones anti-vehicle by GDI from C&C3 XD

 

[Massive_attack]

So thats what the fuck that unit was

My opinion: better looking and functional than the gay science vessel, has my vote.

 

[PurplePoot]

About the vet thing, that's been around for ages...

Science vessel was not gay, massive, but this one will definitely make Terran a blast to use.

SC2 seems to be a lot harder to turtle in.

 

[Jetherit]

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....Can't wait

 

[PurplePoot]

PS. I personally like the model

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

PS. I personally like the model

It's much, much prettier than the Thor, I'll tell you that.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

You guys have no taste in models, do you?

Anyways, both look like they're made of plastic. At least the Thor is imposing... and you know, it's a giant robot. It has to be badass.

The Nomad looks like it's made of plastic too, but it's rather bland... Kinda boring and "lifeless" compared to other Starcraft Units. The yellow makes it look like a toy.


Anyways, where are the damn zergs?!

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

You guys have no taste in models, do you?

Anyways, both look like they're made of plastic. At least the Thor is imposing... and you know, it's a giant robot. It has to be badass.

The Nomad looks like it's made of plastic too, but it's rather bland... Kinda boring and "lifeless" compared to other Starcraft Units. The yellow makes it look like a toy.


Anyways, where are the damn zergs?!

The Thor is obvious overkill. It has too many guns, and it's much too large. It looks stupid. The Nomad looks at least somewhat sensible.

 

[LordDz]

Anyways, where are the damn zergs?!

Made me think into one thing, are Blizzard going hype mode, where they have finished the whole race, but are slowly releasing things just to keep it up, or aint they finished with it yet?

Cuz.. If they aint, then when will the game really be out? Cuz to my opinion.. Races need to be done before campaigns are in thought..

 

[Jaakko]

Made me think into one thing, are Blizzard going hype mode, where they have finished the whole race, but are slowly releasing things just to keep it up

That's exactly what I think that they are holding information. But mainly because their plans might still change.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Considering they've had the Terran and Protoss tech trees already created, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a Zerg one as well.

 

[PurplePoot]

WILL, part of it is not being "badass" but being practical; the nomad looks well-suited for what it is meant to be, which is a specialized flying SCV.

Also, since taste is a personal thing, "having no taste in models" is obvious bias -.-

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Yes, but the Nomad looks ridiculous compared to the near-gritty units and battleships. It looks like a toy.

Same for the Thor.

I'm all for Blizzard stylising their units (with them it usually results to plastic-like models though (WoW)), but if the Nomad and Thor were a little grittier, then they'd be taken a lot more seriously.

Also, pratical is nice, but sometimes you want eye-candy too.

All in all I want my damn zergs.

 

[Massive_attack]

Well, there are some screenshots of mutalisks and zerglings(and banelings too) So we do have some zerg.

 

[PurplePoot]

And nydus worm! That thing is quite the surprise when it pops up in the gameplay vid

 

[frostwhisper]

The nydus worm is so awesome on that video...
Anyway, the Nomad, IMO the terrans seem to have become kind of imba against dark templars or any invisible units. The sensor and radar domes: they'll show you that the darks are approaching. Then comes in the Nomad, reveals them and lays down all these towers... Dark templar harassment has met its match I guess...

 

[PurplePoot]

Anyway, the Nomad, IMO the terrans seem to have become kind of imba against dark templars or any invisible units. The sensor and radar domes: they'll show you that the darks are approaching. Then comes in the Nomad, reveals them and lays down all these towers... Dark templar harassment has met its match I guess...

Hmm... replace those with SC1 units.

"Anyway, the Science Vessel, IMO the terrans seem to become kind of imba against dark templars or any invisible units. The Missile Turrets: they'll show you the darks are approaching. Then comes the Science Vessel, reveals them and uses Irradiate and EMP Shockwave... Dark templar harassment has met its match I guess..."

The same can be said for protoss and zerg... Invisibility is not meant for frontial assaults, it's meant for hit-and-run attacks.

 

[frostwhisper]

Heh, good one there.
Well... the terran will surely become imba when protecting its expands. Ten towers in 4 seconds? I say that's a pretty good defense system...

 

[PurplePoot]

Yes it is, they just need to make sure they cost a fair bit. Or put a cap on how many you can build every so long.

 

[frostwhisper]

I doubt they will condone this. If not in the original release, they'll be sure to nerf it in the next patches.

 

[SimonKurciski]

Do the Nomads do build things the SVCs can't build, or are they redundant?

 

[frostwhisper]

I think Nomads can only build the towers, but I'm not sure...

 

[LordDz]

Pretty sure Nomads only are for detection and building those turrets.

 

[Tyranid]

Well from what I recall from the B.net forums (could be untrue) the Nomad used to have EMP but it was moved to the ghost I think. Also the Nomad (according to Karune if I remember correct) has some other nice defensive buildings it can build besides the turrets.

 

[frostwhisper]

Oh great... now ghosts are more imbalanced then always.

 

[Tyranid]

Oh great... now ghosts are more imbalanced then always.

But remember everything is subject to change, like the Thor no longer has his wierd bombardment skill and he has now mysteriously replaced the Cobra (yes the Cobra is scrapped now).

 

[frostwhisper]

No cobra? Dang, they were awesome little bastards...

 

[Tyranid]

No cobra? Dang, they were awesome little bastards...

Well other fans thought they were useless and the the rest of the nay-sayers were fanboys who hate change.

Also if you didn't know the Predator was also deleted. If you don't know what the predator is, then well. . . it was a Terran anti-air flyer which also had a special ability called intercept which would shoot incoming enemy missiles.

 

[frostwhisper]

Haven't actually heard about that one. Sounds cool...

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Wait, the Thor lost it's bombardment ability? That sucks.

Unless they replace the large canons on it's back with Rocket Pods. That would be cool.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

The more they scrap they better, because they said all scrapped models, abilities and such will be available in the editor, so just let them create and scrap away all they want!

 

[Tyranid]

Haven't actually heard about that one. Sounds cool...

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Predator

I think the only place where there were news of it was at Blizzcon in the SC 2 playable demo. Fans complained and whined about it: "ugly model boohoo" "don't like it" "BOO CHANGE!!!" and finally it was removed.

 

[frostwhisper]

The model looks good imo....

 

[Tyranid]

The model looks good imo....

I think so too but according to some it's ugly.


And some others are just fanboys who hate all changes in SC 2.

 

[frostwhisper]

If they hate changes so much why don't they just stick to sc1... -_-""

 

[LordDz]

Cause these people are guys who want their best game ever to be even better, but doesn't have the courage to take risks..

Besides, what's the name of the Terran unit that attacked at the same time as it moved? I think it was in a trailer somewhere..

 

[frostwhisper]

That was the cobra. It... it got rejected.

/me takes his hat off.

 

[LordDz]

rail guns and it can shoot while moving[3] - similar to the Siege Tank in tank mode (circa StarCraft). This was shown to be incredibly effective against the Thor, which turned too slowly to track the strafing Cobras.[3] It had the ability to attack ground and air units, although its weapons were particularly effective against armored targets.[1][3] It possessed an electrical attack which slows enemy units.[4]

As of the current build, the Cobra has been replaced by the Thor.[5] [/COLOR]

How can it be replaced by the Thor, if it was good AGAINST the Thor?

Hope they keep it, attack-and-move would be really effective to have..

 

[Tyranid]

How can it be replaced by the Thor, if it was good AGAINST the Thor?

Hope they keep it, attack-and-move would be really effective to have..

Simple. They changed the Thor from it's current status to one which counters the type that Thor was.

In other words according to starcraft wiki Thor now counters heavy units and air units.

 

[Massive_attack]

Cool, now its more like a mech rather than some giant siege unit.
(siege tanks do the job just fine)

 

[Tyranid]

Cool, now its more like a mech rather than some giant siege unit.
(siege tanks do the job just fine)

The Thor is still on thin ice. It's doing better than at first it did thought, because fans saw that the Siege tanks and Battlecruisers replaced it's job well enough, because even thought it had more health and such, the BC could istantly turn and the Siege Tank was easier and cheaper and more effective in the siege business or something like that.

Blizzard is also expirementing a new system where the Thor would have to be killed twice, as in after you kill it twice it will become incanpacitated, as in lose it's legs or something. It could still shoot but not move.

 

[JetFangInferno]

the nomad's ugly yellow/red color doesn't blend with all the blue and grey of the other units.

 

[frostwhisper]

Yep. At first I was like "WTF, prottoss??!"