MonstAr.Arena v1.3 -AI-

[Moderator]

19:45, 3rd Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[frostloh]

From the screenshots above, i can see you did an excellent job on the terrain and fog.Downloading the map now :X

 

[Hawk]

Please improve the description and it's not MonstAr.Arena but Monster Arena as i know in english...

 

[Nel_Esp3]

nope >< is MonstAr Arena is another word, just a map name no meaning at all..

ok, i will improve when i get some idea

 

[kidsoulex]

Gotta try this

 

[Darkdread]

Reviews from Darkdread

Review

Reviewed map version1.2[rainbow]a[/rainbow]

[+] - This game has AI (Already has in it's map name AI)
[+] - This map has a great terrain and fog effects
[+] - The units example:Konoha villager, have been set to move around
[+] - The sound for those anime skill is great (although there is no sound for some.. Example:Spongebob)
[+] - Your description is good and you have some screenshots of the game and a video, so...nice job!
[+] - Your in-game weapons is upgradable and combinable so nice job! Again
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[!] - The name of those upgradable item example:Tensa zangetsu level is spelled [l 1] or [l 2]
[!] - Maybe you can add more levels to Impeldown like 4 or 5.....
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[-] - The Zoro's Tatsu Maki skill even if you move, you can still use the skill

Screenie of Zoro's Skill

[-] - The map is protected though you didn't write it in the description
[-] - The portal for teleporting to middle did not have a Floating Text or any word that says it will teleport your hero to the middle
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Overall - [3/5] Good job Nel_Esp3 !!
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Offtopic:What makes you think of doing Anime's Hero Arena maps?
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Suggestions - Put more anime heroes, fix the Zoro's Tatsu Maki skill and put some Floating Text on top of the portal and I will give you a 4/5 for the map
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So, for now, I will vote for Approve

 

[light bolt30]

Why does every single time I find an anime hero arena, the spells are always flashy! ^^

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Review will come soon
But I'm forewarning you now, most Anime maps are rejected, not because they're anime but because most anime maps are terribly executed.

Notes (things I noticed while playing)

-Notes: (* = I want you to really take note of these)
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*-Never make walls out of tree doodads that are also canopy type doodads - they heavily block the players view (like in where I started in this)
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-Heroes of course are just what I'd expect from an anime map, complicated names, poorly made models (why is it impossible for anyone to give the portraits on them actual talk animations?) and eye candy spells with simple effects and unnecasarily long descriptions (matched with names that make no sense to anyone who doesn't speak Japanese or heavily watch the shows themselves). Any way you can make these less stereotypical?
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*-I want to KILL that image you put over the minimap -all it does is block what is a useful resource to the player
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-Lolwut? I used Ichigos push back attack and knocked a wolf through a wall and at an odd angle - you should put in a method to check for collision in knockback.
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*-Honestly does anyone care if the heroes make the in show audio clips? They just waste space imo
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-Those models which I'm assuming are DBZ buildings are incredibly, incredibly ugly in game - I'd suggest looking for an alternative.
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Summery:
Okay as far as my expectations this surpassed what I'd expect from the normal anime map - Though that's not saying much as no one really expects an anime map to be good. This one you could actually get some genuine fun online on bnet, assuming your friends like anime so much that they'd rather play that instead of a more solidly designed hero arena.

Review:
Creativity: 1/5 - HEY GUYZ, U WAN 2 PLAY A MAP? ITZ GOT LIEK NARUTO AND BLEACH CHARS IN IT!!!!!!!!
Terrain: 2.5/5 - I'd say retool around your doodad models for ones that fit together better, if the models were more suiting it would be passable.
Coding: 3/5 - I couldn't open it, but from the looks in game it wasn't all that terrible - it could use some work but at least everything I tested works
Gameplay: 3/5 - I could see enjoying this online, though it's not a hugely unique or outstanding experience

Overall:
2.4/5

Well it's not so bad that it needs rejection, but atm it doesn't really seem quality enough work to be approved.
For now I'd vote rejection

 

[arphax214]

LOL why reject it?it is a decent map low file size, nice models,gameplay,spells and terrain..i vote for approval..this should be approve..

note:why comment when you dont like anime..

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

note:why comment when you dont like anime..

I never said I don't like anime - I find shows pretty decent (first season Bleach was pretty interesting). I just said that most Anime maps are rejected and people often tend to think this site hates anime, the reason most are rejected is because most are made terribly - this one was actually surprisingly good compared to other anime themed maps.

Also you shouldn't have to like anime to enjoy the map - for some people liking the anime clouds their judgment on whether or not the map is actually good.

LOL why reject it?it is a decent map low file size, nice models,gameplay,spells and terrain..i vote for approval..this should be approve..

I admit it's not bad, but it could be much, much better. If you want a site to just unload every map you got, use Epic war for that. Other then that at the moment it's just a mediocre hero arena amidst plenty of other ones that are better and more original - strip the anime references and you pretty much just have a plain hero arena.

Also this map's filesize could be reduced a bit, but I guess file size is a bit of a minor complaint atm since it's not huge- I've seen larger maps with filesizes less then 2 mb with custom models and icons.



And no - just because it's an anime map doesn't mean someones going to break out the special anime nut moderator who handles all anime maps since he's the only one who could possibly understand their greatness where others see nothing special. You probably have a higher chance of getting a moderator who doesn't find anime special, and aggravated from the many many terrible naruto maps that get uploaded on a weekly basis are pretty ready to reject this.

 

[Kala]

Lol... That picture is from Monster Energy Drink >_<

 

[FrozenFenrir]

ive tested v1.2asry if some of those things are already fixed)

bugs:
-bepos shockwave skill actually doesnt do any dmg to heroes at lvl 2 and probably above(cant remember)
-chitinous blade's chance to shoot a shockwave are pretty close to zero, if it even has a chance (item description says 15% but this is wrong)

heroes that needs some nerfs:
-sai (hes just extremely overpowered...for example, his dogs are doing quite decent dmg AND following you like the half length of the map without sai beeing even close)
-ichigo (not as op as sai, bit compared to lots of other heroes ive tested, he was far over the top)

problematic heros:
- sasuke: his susanoo skill is a PAIN. not about its effect but about the fact that this skill is draining alot cpu which renders to heavy lags...please fix that.


suggestions to improve your map:
- more items, especially defensive ones (more armor, hp reg/evasion etc.)
- int heroes (seriously, due to the extreme high skill cds its quite impossible to drain all of your mana... making mana reg items completely useless) which take the full potential out of their mana
-more heroes of course (some more soul eater chars would be awesome but thats just my opinion)
-advance your impeldown to lvl 5! it was actually pretty fun to fight your way to lvl 3 but than it was kind of a dead end...sad =(
-GET RID OF THAT MINIMAP! seriously, its annyoing as fuck. just have a normal minimap ingame and a ...better minimap preview.

for now, a solid 3,5/5 with seeing a good bunch of potential there.

 

[robot-dude]

If you play more then an hour your FPS drops from 64FPS to 10fps -.-, i suggest you try and fix this

 

[Septimus]

If you play more then an hour your FPS drops from 64FPS to 10fps -.-, i suggest you try and fix this

fps drop due to memory leak occur. i think it is better for the author to fix it or else this map would be rejected.

 

[kidsoulex]

Indeed susano lags me totally and its sasuke main skill late game :/
Btw add hp items i depend on str and bots/players gotta walk around with 1k-2k hp... easy kills

 

[Cweener]

Review Time #30 {Final Score:168/200}

Please, don't read this if you can't take criticism.
I was as nice about things at possible.
I even went in and took out all of the cuss words, and anything that sounded mean.

Enjoy,

Review # 30

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

MonstAr.Arena v1.2e -AI-

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *6* Unique aspects, kinda.
1-11 Replayability *6* Fine, if you like lagging.
1-11 Terraining *6* I really don't know why I saw a post with "I see you have nice terrain" or something like that. IT wasn't bad, but IT wasn't good. You can see my "Extra" hidden tag for more on your terrain.
1-11 Object Managing *10* Fine, although they had horrendous English, but I suppose this IS Anime..
1-11 Spells *7* Eye-Candy was abit overwhelming. And they caused lagged, and a few bugged occasionally.
1-11 Description *11* wincake.
1-17 Engaging *17* Good with friends.
1-17 Misc *5* Laggy, too many systems(TWO timers? the food clock one was unnecessary, if you've one in the multiboard, and vice-versa), overwhelming, sound made me cry, too many imports, minimap = wtf!,..etc...
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *168* D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)

Author's Note,
This is actually one of the better anime maps, but not one of the better maps. You need to work on the lagginess, that lost you a lot of points in a lot of places.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
In Bebo(?) or whoever's kick(?) spell, he kicked at seemingly random angles. bad.
In Naruto's spell, (forget the name, but the one that makes a big shriuken(?) thing, and then he throws it and it's uberly overpowered) he began channeling it, and then I killed him, and it was still casted, and on the score screen, it said I killed myself. (I think I have a screen of it, if so then I'll attach it)

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Goodness...
Fix the minimap. Good god man, in a map like this, a minimap is really helpful, or WOULD of been.
Fix leaks.
Fix lag.
Fix the spells.
Fix the terraining.
Make those stupid looking buildings not walkable, or remove them and do us all a favor.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
I actually like the idea and maps like it.
I liked the fact that there are so many heroes and spells.
The trees.


[Didn't like]
All too much...,
The terrain.
The unbalanced feeling I got.
The unnecessary stuff.
The minimap.
The sounds.
The...well, that's enough here.

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

Extra

Now, about that image right there.
The hell?
I really hate the fact that through out the map you used sand and an urban type tile together. That tile would never be found with sand. And sand would never be found in the middle of a town either. The blueish tile you used, doesn't belong in the tileset.
I couldn't even tell which base tile set you used, because I was overwhelmed by the wide range of tiles present.
-Back to the image. You will never find those 5 tiles like that. An urban tile underwater, with wood next to it(also underwater)...and sand again, in a city.
+That lake, or pond thing, is square...(rectangular actually) where have you seen a lake or pond like that?
No where.

Okay, and I said "Unnecessary imports" earlier.
You have a "Make House(?)" thing, on an unreachable island. UNNECESSARY!
You have some things from sponge-bob...THAT'S NOT EVEN ANIME!? THAT'S ANIMATED!
...

Finally, can you please pick a basic color scheme?
I saw, like, every color in the rainbow at some point.
You may think clashing of colors looks good, but you're probably the only one.
[/rant]

 

[Pazzoberserk]

Great job! a very good map, I've played it in LAN with AI with a friend and I must say that we had a LOT of fun-- but is running LOW on my old pc sasuke ability cause even more lag and the sounds are too LOUD (but maybe because I setted them to min. in w3?) anyway thank you

 

[Ironside]

Please, don't read this if you can't take criticism.
I was as nice about things at possible.
I even went in and took out all of the cuss words, and anything that sounded mean.

Enjoy,

Review # 30

Rating System (in weener points:)

1-10 Originality
1-10 Replayability (discounted for most cinematics*)
1-10 Triggering (discounted for protected maps*)
1-10 Terraining
1-10 Object Managing (custom items and destructibles etc...)
1-10 Spells (if applies**)
1-10 Description (On THW and In-game (Loading Screen and information))
1-15 Engaging a.k.a. fun to play
1-15 Misc (size, system implementation, laginess etc...)
-100 or +100 for abiding by THW rules.
_{* = when one is discounted then other sections maximums are raised, and those sections are judged harder (if your map applies then it will show you what i raised later)
** = some maps dont really need spells so this section is discounted and given an automatic 10.}

Rating System Scores

Less than 100 = FF- (Reported, You clearly didnt abide by all of the posting rules, and i have reported you for (not) doing so.)
100-150 Points = F- (Rancid and Needs major work. Vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
151-160 Points = F (Bad and Needs work. vote for Rejection and no +rep.)
161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)
171-180 Points = C (Okay but Needs updates. has potential. vote for rejection* and no +rep.)
181-190 Points = B (Good but still not reaching full potential vote for approval and +rep)
191-199 Points = A (Great and probably has reached full potential**. good job. vote for approval and +rep.)
200 Points = A+ (Amazing, you did everything right and went all out, approval and +rep)
_{* = depending on the map really, and what categories it scored low in
** = not always but most cases.}

MonstAr.Arena v1.2e -AI-

_{Triggering scores not available, so other maximums were raised(see rating system*)}

1-11 Originality *6* Unique aspects, kinda.
1-11 Replayability *6* Fine, if you like lagging.
1-11 Terraining *6* I really don't know why I saw a post with "I see you have nice terrain" or something like that. IT wasn't bad, but IT wasn't good. You can see my "Extra" hidden tag for more on your terrain.
1-11 Object Managing *10* Fine, although they had horrendous English, but I suppose this IS Anime..
1-11 Spells *7* Eye-Candy was abit overwhelming. And they caused lagged, and a few bugged occasionally.
1-11 Description *11* wincake.
1-17 Engaging *17* Good with friends.
1-17 Misc *5* Laggy, too many systems(TWO timers? the food clock one was unnecessary, if you've one in the multiboard, and vice-versa), overwhelming, sound made me cry, too many imports, minimap = wtf!,..etc...
-100 or 100 Rules *100*
0-200 All-in-all *168* D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)

Author's Note,
This is actually one of the better anime maps, but not one of the better maps. You need to work on the lagginess, that lost you a lot of points in a lot of places.

Bugs I found

Bugs:
In Bebo(?) or whoever's kick(?) spell, he kicked at seemingly random angles. bad.
In Naruto's spell, (forget the name, but the one that makes a big shriuken(?) thing, and then he throws it and it's uberly overpowered) he began channeling it, and then I killed him, and it was still casted, and on the score screen, it said I killed myself. (I think I have a screen of it, if so then I'll attach it)

Recommendations

Recommendations:
Goodness...
Fix the minimap. Good god man, in a map like this, a minimap is really helpful, or WOULD of been.
Fix leaks.
Fix lag.
Fix the spells.
Fix the terraining.
Make those stupid looking buildings not walkable, or remove them and do us all a favor.

Likes&Dislikes

[Liked]
I actually like the idea and maps like it.
I liked the fact that there are so many heroes and spells.
The trees.


[Didn't like]
All too much...,
The terrain.
The unbalanced feeling I got.
The unnecessary stuff.
The minimap.
The sounds.
The...well, that's enough here.

If any map I've reviewed has been updated, feel free the ask me to re-review it. or if I haven't reviewed YOUR map, feel free to ask me.

Extra

View attachment 86575
Now, about that image right there.
The hell?
I really hate the fact that through out the map you used sand and an urban type tile together. That tile would never be found with sand. And sand would never be found in the middle of a town either. The blueish tile you used, doesn't belong in the tileset.
I couldn't even tell which base tile set you used, because I was overwhelmed by the wide range of tiles present.
-Back to the image. You will never find those 5 tiles like that. An urban tile underwater, with wood next to it(also underwater)...and sand again, in a city.
+That lake, or pond thing, is square...(rectangular actually) where have you seen a lake or pond like that?
No where.

Okay, and I said "Unnecessary imports" earlier.
You have a "Make House(?)" thing, on an unreachable island. UNNECESSARY!
You have some things from sponge-bob...THAT'S NOT EVEN ANIME!? THAT'S ANIMATED!
...

Finally, can you please pick a basic color scheme?
I saw, like, every color in the rainbow at some point.
You may think clashing of colors looks good, but you're probably the only one.
[/rant]

168/200 score should be approved, since the average number of map rating is 4, I'll agree. I will contact the moderator to approve the map.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

161-170 Points = D (Below Average and Needs much updating. has potential. vote for rejection and no +rep.)

You need to read Weener's rating system, you just misinterpreted what the final score was.

And seriously, remove those annoying sounds from the game - they're terrible quality sound bits taken with background music from the shows themselves which could become spammy with a lot of people playing - they also have a lot of static. Really who cares if your character shouts 5 seconds of gibberish for every spell?

 

[Cweener]

Barathrum,
168/200 == 68/100 pretty much.
I don't use the stupid 5 thumbs up thing.
I use a school rating system, which would make the map a "D", which is failing.

 

[Ironside]

False, 168/200 = 84/100 since:

200 / 2 = 100 therefore 168 / 2 = 84

Which is a good mark in school.

 

[Cweener]

nonono. If you look I give out 100 points for obeying the rules, nothing more. Which is just a technicality.

I promise, I know my review system.
168 = 68

 

[Savarius]

good map..though it needs a duel system and maybe a random character system
BY THE WAY-please fix sasuke's ultimate..his ultimate (Susano) causes a lot
of lags which annoys me and my friends.
-also when i die to creeps the kill addds to the opposing team's score...i know this is a small matter but
it annoys me when my opposing team is arrogant eventhough i am the one winning

 

[kidsoulex]

well... map was approved congratulations but still you could still fix the problems i would really enjoy play this map at perfect conditions

 

[Johm13]

good map.. but sasuke ultimate susano really costs too much lagg..

 

[pregomal]

I didn't even download it, and i'll not vote for ANYTHING. After i download it, maybe.
Point 1: Creativity 1/5: Everything is Anime-copied. At Brazil RPG Rooms of Garena it would be a success.
Point 2: It is Like FOC(Fight of Characters, or Fighter of Characters).
Point 3: Terrain: 3/5: It seems it needs more details.
Point 4: Skills: Sounds good. Going to test.
Point 5: Balance: Maybe? After Test.
Point 6: Gameplay:?????????

Wait until something, then i can vote for it.

 

[coolcool246]

Now this my friend is ausome i love the spells they are so...like u know so like wat the spells look like..... unlike the custom spells that use warcraft 3 sprites like when u use eg. spike wall it uses spikes from warcraft 3 which makes it gay 10/10

 

[ap0calypse]

After checking this map, it is quite... unoriginal, to say the least.

The terrain is almost completely based off custom models, so if you'd look at the base terrain it's definitely not good.
Well, actually: the entire game was made out of custom models, all the good ratings in this thread are because you have the knowledge to import models.
Excuse me if this sounds rude, but you do not deserve most of the ratings here: importing models is a very basic aspect of mapping and shouldn't be judged this heavily.

The gameplay was very boring, as it was the classic AoS without any new twists.
I wouldn't play this game again, even if I were into AoS's, it hasn't got anything to offer... all heroes are classic heroes, the modes, what modes?
There were some tooltip mistakes (quite minor though), although the entire tooltip template needs some re-vamping (especially the colors).

The triggers are all right, although they're rather inefficient - especially for these kind of 'heavier' maps.

If those custom models are all you've got to offer, then you might want to re-think your strategy, as it won't work here.

 

[FrozenFenrir]

After checking this map, it is quite... unoriginal, to say the least.

The terrain is almost completely based off custom models, so if you'd look at the base terrain it's definitely not good.
Well, actually: the entire game was made out of custom models, all the good ratings in this thread are because you have the knowledge to import models.
Excuse me if this sounds rude, but you do not deserve most of the ratings here: importing models is a very basic aspect of mapping and shouldn't be judged this heavily.

The gameplay was very boring, as it was the classic AoS without any new twists.
I wouldn't play this game again, even if I were into AoS's, it hasn't got anything to offer... all heroes are classic heroes, the modes, what modes?
There were some tooltip mistakes (quite minor though), although the entire tooltip template needs some re-vamping (especially the colors).

The triggers are all right, although they're rather inefficient - especially for these kind of 'heavier' maps.

If those custom models are all you've got to offer, then you might want to re-think your strategy, as it won't work here.

while i have to agree that the models are a one of his main features(sadly) i disagree with some other points of yours.
first this is definately no aos...
i mean...no base to defend, no units spawning from the teams, no (real) towers, and no qinning condition which includes the destruction of the enemy base.
imo its clearly a (team) hero arena.

secondly the heroes are pretty much not "classic"
almost all skills are very customized and usually eyecandy.
or would you consider a buff that lets you do(for example) +3xagi bonus dmg per hit for a certain time as classic...?


EDIT:
WAIT... your description of this map actually fits perfectly for "shounen wars"...is there any chance you actually confound it with this map...?
this would actually explain the reason why you call this map a classic aos without twists

 

[ap0calypse]

No, actually I meant Arena with AoS (stupid mistake, whatever, can happen, can't be bothered to fix it either).
The rest is correct in my opinion: the heroes ARE classic and yes, skills are usually eyecandy, the game would probably have a great score concerning eyecandy, but they're still not original (I haven't said anything about spells in my previous review though).