Modeling Contest 15 THEME POLL

[Pyramidhe@d]

yeah, a melee map unit

and i am perfectly fine in having two contests. sounds like an excellent idea

 

[thisruoy]

anarchianbedlam, be quiet. Critters can be 200kb and if someone whats to make a 200kb critter and someone wants to download that 200kb critter, they can go download that 200kb critter and any one is happy. A collosus is just a large unit. That isnt a great theme

 

[anarchianbedlam]

who.... ARE you!?

 

[Mr. Bob]

Py, what the heck are talking about, "now one will finish their model in time". People have been pushing that agenda since modeling compo 14. Yet, 14 had tons of models.

I don't see why you are such a poly Nazi. Even the way you moderate my models. If there are unseen, polies, they are unseen. They don't add to the filesize. Take the observatory. It has 17k polies. But, you only see 3k at a time. Therefore, the model has 3k polies.

People have better computers now. Yes, believe it or not, we can all turn on shadows in WC3. Our hard drives also carry more than 10gb... And, the WC3 engine's limit is far higher than you think. Add 12 footman at one time. (How much you generally see at one time. A lot of polys. 12 footman vs 1 boss unit...umm....

So, I see nothing wrong with the colossus theme. I just whipped up a decent colossus test model in 1 hour. I will submit it in the model section soon. If you decide to give the people what they want and make the contest "colossus" then I shall make another, better one. In like, one hour.

But, my gosh, we are starting to see a lot more furfags. Though, colossus votes still seriously outweigh the "glorified doodad" votes. (As archy calls it.)

I don't get why people want critters...honestly..."Come on billy, let's go make a rabbit! After that, we can make a carrot too!"

There's no real talent. It's a freaking rodent. Omg...

Gah, I am sick of this. Do what you want. As if I or anyone else have an effect anyway. -.-

And, Thisruory, wtf...No one will download a 200kb critter. That's retarded. A critter is a furry model with no attack, spells, or alternate animations. Stand, walk, death. That's it. Real fun.

A colossus is an epic boss unit that actually requires skill...um...yeah...small diff. Compos are NOT about the downloader. They are about skill. Hense...the word "contest"... A critter does not require much skill.

If it were about the downloaders needs, there would be no contest. Frankly, it is about the modelers. Not everybody else.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Well lets see if we can get a moderator to change the poll to public. I should have had it that way to begin with. But whos vote do we count? do we count the users who have submitted models or people who will ENTER the contest?

And if the latter... then do we have it so people ENTER the contest before they know the theme?

I think that that would sound like a perfect idea actually.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

maybe restrict voting to people who actually know a thing or two about model making. dont have to know how to make or animate, they dont have to have past model making experiences or approved models.
they just need to have enough knowledge to appreciate a model. not some random who will go "OMG THE SCREENSHOT LOOKS EPIC!!1!1! 1000000000000000/5 "

and yeah, if it was really about downloadability and usability, would i really have made that daft punk tank?

it is less useful even than a batorc

XD

 

[Just_Spectating]

i think collossus would be awesome


like AoM titans

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Well, pyramidhead, that is all fine and dandy, but who would fit in that category...

How can anyone say "who has enough experience" or "who has good taste" in modeling... or in anything for that matter, because that would be an opinion on an opinion... and that would be... MADNESS

I would say... those people who have submitted a model that has received at least a 4/5 by moderator review.

Ya i know it seems elites and completely fascist.... but It is the only definitive way to tell if someone has enough or "good" modeling experience.

It seems like that would encompass a large am amount of people as well. So its not completely elitest. They have to have EXPERIENCE in making models.

i can think of tons of people. shamanyouranus GF, Mr.bob, pyramidhead, ike_ike, jigreal, thrikodius, and many MANY more. who are coincidentally enough.... the people who actually enter modeling contests.

 

[Just_Spectating]

i could model if i bought a program

but i don't want to buy a program.

 

[Mr. Bob]

maybe restrict voting to people who actually know a thing or two about model making. dont have to know how to make or animate, they dont have to have past model making experiences or approved models.
they just need to have enough knowledge to appreciate a model. not some random who will go "OMG THE SCREENSHOT LOOKS EPIC!!1!1! 1000000000000000/5 "

and yeah, if it was really about downloadability and usability, would i really have made that daft punk tank?

XD

I agree.

Well, pyramidhead, that is all fine and dandy, but who would fit in that category...

How can anyone say "who has enough experience" or "who has good taste" in modeling... or in anything for that matter, because that would be an opinion on an opinion... and that would be... MADNESS

I would say... those people who have submitted a model that has received at least a 4/5 by moderator review.

Ya i know it seems elites and completely fascist.... but It is the only definitive way to tell if someone has enough or "good" modeling experience.

It seems like that would encompass a large am amount of people as well. So its not completely elitest. They have to have EXPERIENCE in making models.

i can think of tons of people. shamanyouranus GF, Mr.bob, pyramidhead, ike_ike, jigreal, thrikodius, and many MANY more. who are coincidentally enough.... the people who actually enter modeling contests.

It would work, it would just take more time.

Either way would work. Just as long as the particapants get what they want. XD

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Well Pyritie might have a better standing in saying "critters is the theme" if he actually participated in the contests instead of just overseeing them..... or happycockroach for that matter.

 

[HappyTauren]

I want colossus D: I want to make a huge badass unit, as I haven't done a model in a long tie. I DONT WANT TO MAKE A FUCKING CRITTER.

Also, if critters gone bad is the theme, expect to see a lot of sheep with guns attached randomly -.-'

 

[Callahan]

I voted critters though I want to make a colossus model.

 

[Pyritie]

I don't want to do colossus now. We just had a contest that was more "complex" - I'd rather have the colossus theme later, like around christmas break or something.

It's not a contest if there are only two or so entries.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Again, just host a mini-contest and then host the colossus contest after it.

It's not like we need to start #15 right now.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

people prolly want to go away for holidays during x-mas. they aint gonna stay at home making a model.... unless you are like me

 

[HappyCockroach]

Well Pyritie might have a better standing in saying "critters is the theme" if he actually participated in the contests instead of just overseeing them..... or happycockroach for that matter.

But I've been making models...so I guess my opinion is quite valid...

I really don't mind anymore. As I said, I lost all my modelling stuff along with my laptop, I won't be able to participate.

 

[Mr. Bob]

I don't want to do colossus now. We just had a contest that was more "complex" - I'd rather have the colossus theme later, like around christmas break or something.

It's not a contest if there are only two or so entries.

At least you are agreeing to do it. That's good.

But, to tell you the truth, a lot of people would be gone during Christmas. *cough* me *cough*. HT obviously would join, I would join, Archy would of course join, Skrab might join (maybe. I'm not really sure.), I'm sure GF would, plus a bunch of noobs.

Sounds like enough to me...

 

[HappyTauren]

So, the deal is, host the mini challenge NOW, and in two weeks it'd end. When it ends, in a few days a new compo could start, or in two weeks. Reasonable enough?

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I concur, Happy Tauren has the right idea. All in favor of happy tauren's idea say AYE

AYE

 

[Devine]

AYE
theme: make a lowpoly (-200 polies) creature (this allows me to make like a cinematic footy instead of a stupid critter)

 

[HappyTauren]

200 isn't that awesome. What about 150?

AYE

 

[Pyritie]

Okay, so how about this:

• Modeling mini contest #1 (NOW) - 128-triangle model of anything. (Also means textures have to be 128x128 max)
• Modeling contest #15 (after the mini contest) - steampunk
• Modeling mini contest #2 (while judging for #15 is going on) - critters
• Modeling contest #16 - colossus

 

[Kuhneghetz]

I rather have colossus before steampunk.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Many people would. Including me.

 

[Ghost765]

steampunk colossus?

 

[anarchianbedlam]

NO
_{dont be rediculous}

if it was steampunk colossus, pyritie would hack and shut down the hive if he had to just to avoid having that contest.....

I'd be ok with it, but it would be better if they were separate.

 

[Cavman]

26 to 11 in colossus's favor says most of the people that would participate would rather have colossus aswell. Personaly, I think the Colossus would offer some more intersting models.
the rebelion has been crushed :C

 

[anarchianbedlam]

xD rofl cavman, you can at least create a rebellious colossus

 

[Mr. Bob]

Sounds good to me py, but, as others say, colossus first please.

 

[HappyTauren]

I don't see why py doesn't want colossus first, even though EVERYONE wants to work on one.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

It really doesnt make sense, since pyritie wont be joining the contest... id dont think... so he wouldnt have to make a colossus

 

[Mr. Bob]

This thread can be pretty much summed up with this picture.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Serment_du_jeu_de_paume.jpg


Py doesn't want to do it because he thinks that it will not produce enough successfully finished models. Which, in my opinion, is a bogus point. D: More pro modelers would join and finish than any other... *cough* critters *cough*

Granted, he is going to put critters for a minicontest. Still....seampunk won't produce as much.

 

[thisruoy]

buddy, A collossus is just a normal unit, which has a larger size. I dont see the difference between creating a Make a Collosus Theme and Make any model you want theme. You can resize any model in War3 and call it a collosus. Blizzard did. (largest panda ever?)

 

[Mr. Bob]

buddy, A collossus is just a normal unit, which has a larger size. I dont see the difference between creating a Make a Collosus Theme and Make any model you want theme. You can resize any model in War3 and call it a collosus. Blizzard did. (largest panda ever?)

A colossus has slower anims, larger particles, more detail, and epic attack and spell anims. Critters are small 10kb 100poly creatures with 3 anims and no place in the WC3 tech tree. And, when Blizzard resizes their units, that is not colossus. That is the equation that tells you Blizzard sucks. Shadow of colossus, the game, has colossus's. Supreme Commander, has colossus's. Demigod, has a colossus. Look closely. The difference is quite clear.

When I say slower anims, I mean large epic lumbering strides, with massive impressions in the ground. Simple resizing a regular unit is retarded. You just get a bigger version of that unit with the same bubbly animations that Blizzard seems to do so well.

Try scaling the footman up to size 7. Then make it run. Yes, it does look utterly retarded. Even if you slow down the anim, the walk motion looks aweful when huge.

A colossus is NOT simply a scaled version of a regular unit. It is a titan sized unit. With titan quality, and titan anims.

-Your buddy Bob.

 

[skrab]

Okay, so how about this:

• Modeling mini contest #1 (NOW) - 128-triangle model of anything. (Also
  means textures have to be 128x128 max)

I see only few people here who can make custom textures and models.

 

[Pyritie]

I see only few people here who can make custom textures and models.

Bah, fine

 

[Rui]

I chose Melee Unit Replacements. An original Dwarf melee unit would be great, for example. But Colossus doesn't sound bad either.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I think many people are misunderstanding the COLOSSUS theme. When we say COLOSSUS, we mean a giant BOSS UNIT with, like mr.bob said, large animations/particles etc. Something with "awesome" "finisher-move" animations

 

[HappyCockroach]

IMO, the mini-contest about 128 polies of ANYTHING sounds horrible.
Let's do as the poll says. A Colossus normal contest. Of course it will have output, and of course it is an interesting theme, as proven by the poll.

If it lacks submissions, you can give it some extension, as every contest.

 

[HappyTauren]

You're afraid of lowpolyness. You suck.

Anyway, I still need more AYEs to my idea.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Mini-contest of 128 polies is so much fun. It's not a new theme either, this has been done at more professional modelling boards too.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Wouldn't it be better with some theme?

Well...128 polies are already limiting enough the contestants...

 

[Pyritie]

Wouldn't it be better with some theme?

Well...128 polies are already limiting enough the contestants...

That's the whole challenge!

 

[HappyCockroach]

Yeah, I get it... it can be fun. =P

If only I had my laptop back... ._.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Ok so a 128 minicontest, and then the Colossus theme modeling contest after that. Sounds good to me

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

128 polys? this is madness :O
nah jk. sounds interestng. the 128 challenge. we should have things like that more often

 

[Pyritie]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/modeling-and-animation-276/modeling-mini-contest-1-a-142909/

Blinkboy or dan, stick this pl0x

 

[Kuhneghetz]

Contest stickified

 

[N.O]

So does the model have to be made from scratch to be able to enter the contest?