MineralZ 1.55(f)

[Zeatherann]

How so? I can't seem to get the tech to build one, despite having every upgrade researched (aside from mineral capacity and mining speed).

 

[epraikc1]

How so? I can't seem to get the tech to build one, despite having every upgrade researched (aside from mineral capacity and mining speed).

You need the mobile mining thing from credits shop and grab a zerg egg for it to upgrade it then you'll have the requirements met and yea it has no upgrades in it yet.

 

[geoffrey]

it does indeed take a while.. zZzZz

 

[Zeatherann]

Oh, cool. Never knew the egg had a use beside spawning a spawner. Which corner of the map does it spawn?

 

[Darnassus]

You need the mobile mining thing from credits shop and grab a zerg egg for it to upgrade it then you'll have the requirements met and yea it has no upgrades in it yet.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO you told him! ;d

 

[Darnassus]

Oh, cool. Never knew the egg had a use beside spawning a spawner. Which corner of the map does it spawn?

Zerg eggs? ... Come on! :c They randomly appear on map generation, around 5-6 per game. ;3

 

[Zeatherann]

I know, wasn't sure if they were clipped to a corner/side of the map like most other things.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Dear creator of the game. Ive been waiting so long, ive maxed my credits in 1.28 already.
Some games took me 9 hours others 3 days. Enjoyed fully building 2/3 or 2/4 of the map most of the time. I still play it even in 1.3 which i find harder specialy boss 60 xD...

I really wanne use my BioEngineering now. I wanne see if gollums has usefull skilzz then being useless.

Well just me sprouting the hardcore Mineralz freak over 2400+ games on mineralz.
324 <- credits

It seems when u get arround 50/60 u get no credits from easy even when u finish it
from arround 70 not even normal, u gotta start hard and from hard till 126 credits then hard does give u = nothing then its nightmare and hell till 194 credits then its up arround "fun mode = remove brown player" to activate a even harder mode then hell to get over till 324 credits which i got now.

Well am i somewhere correct?
I found some bugs here and there such as - mineralz like i had -39 diamonds xD well i dont know if thats correct tho but...nah not correct. x)
sometimes the black sphrere thingy bugs the bosses sometimes it "eats" the bosses and they never appear again.

Im talking about 1.28 here. Im pretty new to 1.3. aldo i got like 300/200 games on it by now. Love the remodel in 1.3 tho and etc...

but anyway dear creator gimme 1.4! your hardcore fan + clan in mineralz (i created /join clan se) forever.


Wish list for abilities perhaps ideas for BioEngineering: (been thinking alot xD...)

1. - Creation of mineralz (cost 1/10 credits) => makes a random 1 of the 4 mineralz at the selected spot.
2. - More Droids at the higher cost of 10 credits -> !! limit 15 droids (not like any1 can reach this, aldo can xDD)
3. - Power up the gollum with 50k/100k HP at the cost of "50" credits. (with watever epic ability u can add)
4. - Many more Ranks such as "slayer, destroyer etc" + extra slightly abilties + with them the higher u can get! (this is alot of work in editor...as a mapmaker i know this is anoying in the current system your having now ...)
5. - Bio improves buildings such as factories + more imput more mineralz income!! <3 1000/1000/1000/1000 mineralz or more
6. - Droids upgrades (study armour + more hp..1000/2000...) they can die so easly considering they auto attack zergs...
7. - With "credits" enables a new line of building <--- this would be so fuking epic. (the unlocking of ancient weaponary) "only unlockable if they olso got that rare book thats in the map is olso obtained and putted in a certain building to activate it. + 60 credits to unlock!! <---
8. - Artificial intelligence program: (Upgrades all your buildings automaticaly (2 credits or lots of mineralz?)
9. - "The unlocking of a tower/building that protects all (rocks) arround it. Instead of those anoying failing barriers. l
10. - Upgrading the unlocking of the gollum turning into a stationary tank/tower that has huge long range. 1500range.*splash + fire burning damage* for 2500/2500/2500/5000

 

[Zeatherann]

Those are some very interesting end-game ideas. Though, I still urge Maddeem to fix and finish the early and mid game content first. This isn't Blizzard, this game isn't supposed to mimic World of Warcraft in having no content except end-game (highly exaggerated comment there). I do support most of these ideas as-is, or with slight modifications.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

ow yeah every expects i ever played with with this quostion:

"does any of those skin have particaliry specialitys?
as far as i see there is none then the skill itself with the light damage attack on them

am i wrong?

if not give them all a speciality xD even if its just small

 

[Zeatherann]

Skins should be purely cosmetic.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Skins should -not- be purely cosmetic.

The majority of the people playing this game Actively (alot of them) want this.
NO <--- the expect this. the expect it to have abilities yet to disappointed. but the game has alot all cool things so its ok.

Your opinion would be so overuled in majority in a poll wether it should or not makes picking skin olso alot more intresting and u can play in other styles making it more fun to play mineralz eace day with something els!

edit wish list for those to make examples:
A skin that gives 1+ red etc for all others olso.
A skin that gives 1+ mineralz coll..speed.
A skin that gives 1k or something more HP to the wall.
A skin that gives a bit more attack on all buildings. (bonus)
A skin that makes the Gollum "more useable giving it more HP)
A skin that gives 1 more droid?
A skin that gives more return damage (combined with whats in the credits shop)
A skin that unlocks ancient weapons if this skin finds the special book on the map unlocking this (even then it costs 60/80 credits or something to unlock.
A skin that can "use" the egg to get 1+ or 2+ more credits if he "finishes" the map.
A skin that gives "instant when bought, 500/500/500/500 mineralz"
etc.. u name it just idea's.

makes the game way more intresting to play it for the people who do this ALOT.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Just so u know the ideas i come up with are ideas that makes it more compentive and get-able and creative to play eace game everytime. It enlarges the field of stratagie and makes it more fun for addicts. Most people stop playing the game at arround 120/100 credits causs the think there maxed AND they are right. but with ideas i have, it gives them a more field of playing. Things to archief e.t.c. Its alot of work tho lol.

Aldo i can/could help with editing some of those things if it was wished for. Im very good at AI triggers and skill remodelications. not so good at formula's that the mineralz numbers have tho. (still learning).

 

[Zeatherann]

The AI needs to be improved to be more balanced (I think), and less CPU intensive.Also, try not to double post.

 

[Darnassus]

That's one thing we can agree on, map needs to be severely optimised.

Can there be a command toggle to make animations stop? Like, making the Anti Air Turrets stop spinning and just sit still and only turn when attacking..?Also maybe remove the glowy stuff from Mind Controls.

 

[HongKonger]

I(Chinese) love it very much. Can I play 1.4 in future?I am just a killer now. What is biomechanical hybrid???

 

[Eylidian]

Hi all,

I'm experiencing a severe bug with your map. After several minutes of playing (1-2 hours), sometimes, it just crashes, closing w3 with no error pop-up.

I must say it's pretty critical because there's no way to reproduce this, I can only report massive graphical lag during zergs' invasion. That's the main reason I think it could be related to some of the imported models you're using in your project.

So, here's my humble request:
Could you please provide a light version of Mineralz where all imported models are replaced by w3 models? Maybe reducing all massive lightning effects and so on... it could help people like me who appreciate your map but are unable to start a new game fearing it would crash with no reasons after 25/26 nights.

Thanks a lot.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

How does the credit system work atm? Do I still lose credit permanently if I use it in a match? If yes, it makes no sense at alll

 

[Zeatherann]

Credits are kept, even if spent and re-saved.

 

[shinji]

Is there no easier way to save credits? I don't want to take a piece of paper everytime.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Hit screenshot key on keyboard, it'll be saved to Warcraft III\Screenshots

 

[shinji]

Hit screenshot key on keyboard, it'll be saved to Warcraft III\Screenshots

That would fill my pc with pictures. More than that, I'll have to alt-tab rapidly to see my code. I'll just use my iphone to take notes. I think it's easier.

 

[Zeatherann]

I have a folder in my documents that contains files for all the savecodes for all the maps I've played. Each file lists the progress of each save along with which username I used for that save. I type it out digitally.But no, there is no automagical way of saving credits as Maddeem didn't put that functionality into his map. Automagical loading is even more work, though still easy. It requires that the user enables local files however, which is a registry thing. Also, the code for this map is very short, around eight characters if I recall correctly. Lastly; no one said you couldn't delete the old screenshot saves after you typed them down, or saved a new time with more progress.

 

[Darnassus]

I have a folder in my documents that contains files for all the savecodes for all the maps I've played. Each file lists the progress of each save along with which username I used for that save. I type it out digitally.But no, there is no automagical way of saving credits as Maddeem didn't put that functionality into his map. Automagical loading is even more work, though still easy. It requires that the user enables local files however, which is a registry thing. Also, the code for this map is very short, around eight characters if I recall correctly. Lastly; no one said you couldn't delete the old screenshot saves after you typed them down, or saved a new time with more progress.

... you just type -save..

..and the code is saved to your C:\Mineralz folder.. ;x

Then you copy it from there. ;x

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Requirement: lvl^3

Is this the final level of laziness? Just playing it after a year for the first time..

Edit; OMFG is the creator really so stubborn he's refused to remove the flier rounds? Yeah bb unsubsribing this thread i don't even wanna hear the reason.....

 

[Darnassus]

Is this the final level of laziness? Just playing it after a year for the first time..

Edit; OMFG is the creator really so stubborn he's refused to remove the flier rounds? Yeah bb unsubsribing this thread i don't even wanna hear the reason.....

You're a dummy if you don't make Anti Air guns, it's so simple.. ':f

 

[Zeatherann]

Maddeem, Mineralz still has an unexplained crash to desktop without an error. I don't have a 100% certain method of reproducing it, but it tends to happen when I want to upgrade 12 buildings at once and can't afford some of them.Also, on a 1GhZ dual-core CPU the game has a large amount of lag. While some of this is due to graphics rendering, I image a lot of it to have to do with how you iterate over regenerators and power generators. As well as the intensity of your supposedly better-than-default AI (bosses exempt).Another issue I think I have with the game is boss' increasing damage. Why don't you use a stat mod system to display the extra damage as a green plus, rather than relying on a damage event. Do bosses accrue damage based on how long the night is going, or based on how long the boss is attacking/under attack? Because it becomes a problem when all the adds of the boss wave crowd in front of the boss, making it appear sometimes minutes later.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Still patiently waiting for a new update....

 

[Darnassus]

Maddeem, Mineralz still has an unexplained crash to desktop without an error. I don't have a 100% certain method of reproducing it, but it tends to happen when I want to upgrade 12 buildings at once and can't afford some of them.Also, on a 1GhZ dual-core CPU the game has a large amount of lag. While some of this is due to graphics rendering, I image a lot of it to have to do with how you iterate over regenerators and power generators. As well as the intensity of your supposedly better-than-default AI (bosses exempt).Another issue I think I have with the game is boss' increasing damage. Why don't you use a stat mod system to display the extra damage as a green plus, rather than relying on a damage event. Do bosses accrue damage based on how long the night is going, or based on how long the boss is attacking/under attack? Because it becomes a problem when all the adds of the boss wave crowd in front of the boss, making it appear sometimes minutes later.

Boss damage increases by X, each second. Can eventually one-hit the highest tier wall if you leave it long enough.

 

[win11511]

Still patiently waiting for a new update....

Me too

 

[monkeyboy15]

Me too

Yeah, I don't think its coming. Been almost a year.

 

[Zeatherann]

Maddeem is lazy, but the delays are probably due to life events, like school.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Well if she wont update, she wouldn't mind if i updated it for her, considering i already cracked open her map now, and can freely modified it.

And im gone put in all the fun stuff i mentioned previously lol.. thats not even 2 weeks of work for me :3

 

[Zeatherann]

Hehe. Map cracking isn't hard, though it can usually result in a map that is difficult to edit. Maddeem will pass the torch to someone he trusts, such as someone who already was given an unprotected copy of it. Probably someone who has their own custom skin (sheep for instance).

 

[vano177]

I love this map 5/5

 

[Maou]

Just for the record is there an actual victory condition? If so, are you willing to share what it is? (Forgive me if this is a dumb question) Otherwise well done, although I often get discouraged in seemingly unable to achieve a clear victory situation.

 

[geoffrey]

Somebody please update it, i dont care who.
And if some one else is already working on it, share it!
ty
wanna play this game :3

 

[Zeatherann]

You can win by beating all the levels (40 on easy, 50 on normal, 60 on harder difficulties).

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Im slowly dieing here waiting for the next up-date lol.

 

[Darnassus]

There's a [Demigod] rank apparently. Hmm..

Anybody know all the ranks and how they're earned?

 

[Zeatherann]

How did you figure that out? I have Destroyer I think, from beating Hell. Remember that there are only three achievable titles (Easy, Normal, Hard+) because Maddeem was lazy and didn't implement waves up to 80/90.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Yep there is demi-god and goddess and god rank.

U can get demi god in 2 ways. from version 1.16B or C and beat hell mode 3 times.

Or get the reall demi god in 1.3 by beating fun mode 20 times, (remove brown to open) unlocking all difficulties combined + chosen mode on top of it.

At 50 time beating u get: goddess.
100 times the world explodes and u get god rank.

If u can get the reall demi god rank from 20 times beating fun mode u will unlock 10/15% of the bio-engineering abilities/upgrades. 1 page. upgrades/abilities

Goddess 30/50% 5 pages of upgrades/abilities
God Rank 100% 10 pages of upgrades/abilities

People say that credits stop arround 120/140 but there sore losers who havent really beaten nightmare or hell or let alone fun mode, the creditslimit stops really at: 324 <-

Next time ill make some screenshots, how the bio-engineering looks like and the ranks.
if sameone hosts it on mmh that is

Hosting few games mijself arround: EU time: 15:00 to 20:00 <-- for those intrested to join me. (game visible in makemehost.com)

edit: unlocking the easy methode of demi-god by beating 3 times hell mode in 1.16B/C wont UNLOCK THE ITEMS AT BIO-ENGINEERING! <-- already tryed it on a sub account!! olso another friend: "nsparre" tryed it and has it but did not get the unlockments! so get the reall demi-god if u are dieing for the unlockments inside the bio-engineering!!

 

[Zeatherann]

Assuming no joking, I'll look into achieving this.

 

[Ge0m4nc3r]

Your gone try to get the demi-god from 1.16B/C?
Or in 1.3? if so lemme play with u <3 fun mode afterall is the most fun mode there is in mineralz.

 

[Zeatherann]

What ever the current version is.

 

[maddeem]

Sorry guys, I feel like everyone still here deserves an update.

A while back I took my hard drive out of my computer to do some maintenance, to put in a new graphics card... And it dropped on the floor. It died that day, and unfortunately so did the latest unprotected version of MineralZ.

And now I'm in college with a girlfriend so life has gotten really complicated really fast. I'd like to thank you all for supporting this project, and I really wish I could give you more
Have a wonderful life everyone, I wish ya'll the best.

 

[Steamsteam]

Sorry guys, I feel like everyone still here deserves an update.

A while back I took my hard drive out of my computer to do some maintenance, to put in a new graphics card... And it dropped on the floor. It died that day, and unfortunately so did the latest unprotected version of MineralZ.

And now I'm in college with a girlfriend so life has gotten really complicated really fast. I'd like to thank you all for supporting this project, and I really wish I could give you more
Have a wonderful life everyone, I wish ya'll the best.

So does this mean that someone else will get to edit the map now?!?!?! Also, I really wish this could have been mentioned sooner. Either way, Geo said he has a cracked version and I thought Zeath said that he had an unprotected version too.

PS: After reading the posts, I swear Maddem has been mentioned as a female multiple times, but I also noticed he was mentioned as a guy. Maybe I misread... Was pretty confused ;d

 

[Zeatherann]

Girlfriends make life complicated? The complications are directly proportional to how much you disagree with her (not how much she disagrees with you though lol). Also, it's easy to recover data from a hard drive, and is probably worth your time to do so (not caring about this map at all). If you want I'll work from the unprotected version you gave me which is one or two updates back (not guessing, it's either a single or two versions back). It'd be better than a hacked-in version anyways. I still need to convert it back into plain JASS, but that won't be so hard.

 

[Darnassus]

Just do something to get this map into progression. Maddeem has practically abandoned it now.

 

[Zeatherann]

Not without his permission. Site rules and all that.