MineralZ 1.55(f)

[Captivate]

Alright great Mad!! Making an amazing game even better! I will let you know on any bugs or typos etc. and will report them.

As for Minz 2, I just hope you dont abandon the project.

As for the future updates on this map, Please...Please put that amazing mini map feature back to Minz 1!! I fucking loved that soo much!!!! lol

 

[maddeem]

Alright great Mad!! Making an amazing game even better! I will let you know on any bugs or typos etc. and will report them.

As for Minz 2, I just hope you dont abandon the project.

As for the future updates on this map, Please...Please put that amazing mini map feature back to Minz 1!! I fucking loved that soo much!!!! lol

Alright I think I will
Thanks, bug reports will really cut down my testing time lol
But if you don't find any... ALL THE BETTER hehe

I fixed the sell bug for those of you who knew that one.. Yes no more free blue minz lol

 

[maddeem]

Double post ftw, IDGAF.
New version is here! It hasn't been tested too thoroughly so don't be surprised if you find a bug

 

[BandolXD]

LoL i though this is dead ! xD But nice ! A new version !
Edit : Wanna test?

 

[AnonymousPro]

Finally it's out! !!!
Great. No more free blue gem lol.
The end game Cinematic looks great, but the code gets forgotten quite fast, I hope you could update by saving the code to a .txt file in wc3 folder.

 

[maddeem]

I can test it tomorrow but I'm about to go to bed so I can' test right now
This is 1.2 not 2.0 D:
I hope that isnt what you think this is lol

 

[Zeatherann]

Notes, Opinions, and a Lot of Bulleted Lists.

Nice, finally an update. I have some suggestions/optinions.

• Why not generate the terrain during the intro cinematic, this removes the loading bar and should be timed perfectly.
• If you want I can assist you with the generation as I've taken a great interest in random terrain, most notably with my map that you enjoy.
• The first 20 waves are boaring, you either live to see wave 10, or you don't. I suggest making waves ranomized.
• Randomized waves is fairly easy to obtain. Two Methods:
  • Make them heroes with their level being equal to the wave (disable experience).
  • Make the units 'level up' with upgrades that are researched, one a wave.
  Some notes about these methods:
  1. Both methods require that each unit wave are balanced with each other, as they could all at one point be wave 1, or wave 50 (40, 30).
  2. You could even have special mobs only for the harder difficulties.
  3. If you use the upgrade method you can't go back in a wave (either because of something special, or wanting to 'remake' the map without reloading.
• I like that you added the tier number to the unit names. My friends and I always call them by their tier name, lol. Makes passing info between us easier.
• With this tier system in mind; why not make each unit go up to the same tier number?

I hope you get more fuel and inspiration!

 

[Kirus]

For me this 1.2b was a DES upgrade.


✔ The minimap is a gray thing...
✔ The Wave 1 minions has 15.000 life. - Normal atleast -
✔ Tier 6 generator costing 100 - Tier 7 generator won't work.



- I'M NOT THIKING ON ME I KNOW PLAY A BIT... BUT THE NEWBIES? HOW TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY THIS GAME LIKE THIS?

And one thing, maybe something should be donne about the time, reduce the time of upgrades - buildings - Day time - Night time - 3 hours game is not every one can play, and the game can't even save.

I din't like at all...

 

[monkeyboy15]

Well 1.16f still remains to be my favorite version.

 

[Zeatherann]

More Thoughts, Mostly About Time.

Oh yea... forgot to mention about the time things take;

• The research/upgrade time is perfectly fine.
• Daytime should be a constant time (like 60 seconds), harder difficulties subtract from this time (maybe down to 20 seconds at the hardest difficulty).
• Night time should not be timed! Reasons why;
  • This leaves 1-2 minutes of night time with no monsters since they died.
  • This makes simply outlasting the monsters easy when the sun comes up.
  • Why is there day/night cycle in the underground of a temple anyways?
  • Make the night end when the last monster is slain, and only when they are all dead.
  These should balance out the uber long wave rounds, being an hour or so (at least it feels like) to get to the first boss is super annoying.
• Waves 1-12 are slow, waves 13-18 are fast feeling. Anything past 20 is pretty monotonous.

 

[maddeem]

Nice, finally an update. I have some suggestions/optinions.

• Why not generate the terrain during the intro cinematic, this removes the loading bar and should be timed perfectly.
• If you want I can assist you with the generation as I've taken a great interest in random terrain, most notably with my map that you enjoy.
• The first 20 waves are boaring, you either live to see wave 10, or you don't. I suggest making waves ranomized.
• Randomized waves is fairly easy to obtain. Two Methods:
  • Make them heroes with their level being equal to the wave (disable experience).
  • Make the units 'level up' with upgrades that are researched, one a wave.
  Some notes about these methods:
  1. Both methods require that each unit wave are balanced with each other, as they could all at one point be wave 1, or wave 50 (40, 30).
  2. You could even have special mobs only for the harder difficulties.
  3. If you use the upgrade method you can't go back in a wave (either because of something special, or wanting to 'remake' the map without reloading.
• I like that you added the tier number to the unit names. My friends and I always call them by their tier name, lol. Makes passing info between us easier.
• With this tier system in mind; why not make each unit go up to the same tier number?

I hope you get more fuel and inspiration!

This kind of large scale terrain generation requires a lot of CPU usage, the screen would tear if the loading would happen during the intro. Plus last minute loading still occurs in the intro xD

Random waves have always been a topic of discussion about mineralz. The thing is though, you really don't want boomers to be random. You want to know what you're dealing with. That being said the "infantry" waves could be random. With that idea being said, it would require me to rework the night time spawning system significantly. But I'm more than ready for a challenge. It's had problems since I made it. I cannot specify how fast I want things to spawn, which for me is a real downfall of the current spawning system.

I don't know what a DES upgrade means, but ok lol

OH FUCK LOL wave 1 units are not suppose to have that much life t.t
God dammit, that was for testing
Stupid mad. I'll fix that asap and post 1.12c... GRRR

Will fix the generator.

Fuck it, I'm going to make 1.25 today and change how the waves work a bit. With all the fixes.
Alright you know what, what the hell. Night will not be timed in the next version. You will have to destroy all the zerg if you want to make it to the day. I could even set the night clock to the percentage of zerg dead. Yeah that'd be pretty neat.

However there will have to be a maximum time limit on how long each wave can take. Otherwise players will just farm mineralz and leave a zerg to attack their walls lol.

 

[maddeem]

DOUBLE POST...........
Ok so a new update is out. Pretty much addressing and adding/fixing everything suggested/reported here. I hope you guys enjoy the update

 

[Zeatherann]

Let them take ages to do a wave just to get resources, cheating is boring, let them kill their game themselves.

Cool idea with the night time.

Um... i can only imagine the horrors you have for the generator, it should not tear the screen at all. I've pushed my terrain on Infection to generate instantly, which causes a freeze for a minute or two lol. But never any tears. Generation should be smooth, and lag free. What is the dimensions of the terrain rect? I could make 196x196 terrain in about 50 seconds. Maybe a full minute.

Seriously, i'd be glad to help you with your terrain! It's nice looking, very nice looking.

 

[AnonymousPro]

This kind of large scale terrain generation requires a lot of CPU usage, the screen would tear if the loading would happen during the intro. Plus last minute loading still occurs in the intro xD

Random waves have always been a topic of discussion about mineralz. The thing is though, you really don't want boomers to be random. You want to know what you're dealing with. That being said the "infantry" waves could be random. With that idea being said, it would require me to rework the night time spawning system significantly. But I'm more than ready for a challenge. It's had problems since I made it. I cannot specify how fast I want things to spawn, which for me is a real downfall of the current spawning system.

I don't know what a DES upgrade means, but ok lol

OH FUCK LOL wave 1 units are not suppose to have that much life t.t
God dammit, that was for testing
Stupid mad. I'll fix that asap and post 1.12c... GRRR

Will fix the generator.

Fuck it, I'm going to make 1.25 today and change how the waves work a bit. With all the fixes.
Alright you know what, what the hell. Night will not be timed in the next version. You will have to destroy all the zerg if you want to make it to the day. I could even set the night clock to the percentage of zerg dead. Yeah that'd be pretty neat.

However there will have to be a maximum time limit on how long each wave can take. Otherwise players will just farm mineralz and leave a zerg to attack their walls lol.

just lol.

 

[Schamanu]

looking forward to try this new version

btw what kirus meant with "des upgrade" is probably a "downgrade" as the prefix "de-" is usually used to mean the opposite of the original word.

 

[Kirus]

looking forward to try this new version

btw what kirus meant with "des upgrade" is probably a "downgrade" as the prefix "de-" is usually used to mean the opposite of the original word.

Scha - Me ifritVII if that meas anything for you ^^

Man I love this game! i real like, but that 1.2a was real a downgrade, and some times i could not find a closed base to play... with this new map generation.

I hope all fixed on 1.25

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I know play i have 80 credits i wanting to beat hard but is almost impossible the version 1.2b

I will play now 1.25 and put my review...

 

[AnonymousPro]

Is -save working while I play alone in single player? or is -save removed from the changes?
I think there should be a message on the first page:"This game can/cannot be played in single player mode"

 

[Kirus]

I wanna trie to play on Hard is there anyone Up to play???

I has some experience playing this game i'm not real pro, but a good listening and i think i know play a bit...

My Nick is IfritVII (Garena - Europe - Euroloader) i wanna to beat hard LVL just say the nick name and the time with GMT(Greenwich Meridian Time) correction and i Apear.

Is real hard to find players of this game atleast for me, i don't like to do solo games...

Now i has i think the max exp i can win on normal 80 credits, but i still can't solo Hard.

And i don't tested fully this new version 1.25 it realy changed alot of things ^^ looks real nice and improved!
I still don't like the new Generation of the map ~~~ Play and know what i'm Saying ~~~
I tried to play 6 times and all the times was hard to find a good place to make a base and was ways Bottom Left. And not that great...

 

[maddeem]

Save does not work in single player. I keep neglecting to put a message saying so :/

The generation was changed for a couple of reasons. One is to reduce load time. Being as before it could generate up to 3 destructables per square, now it can only generate up to 2. I increased the clump rate of the generation so that you can find a base pretty much all carved out.
Plus you have 150 seconds now to find a base! Before you had like 60 seconds. T.T

I want to try hard myself, but my garena isn't working. So I can only play on battle.net

 

[Luk2048]

New version

Hello, first I'd like to thank you for fixing lag from earlier version, I can have a blast playing with my friend now again.

Now on to the topic of new version 1.25. I've just finished playing on easy with a friend on bnet, since we lost our codes with ~70 credits so just to farm some. We didn't play wc3 for a few months, so 1.16f was the last we played. I love the new syonic ubgrades and new skins, rocket turrets seem pretty useless later on versus those air with the hp they now have, and we noticed that tanks no longer can attack air, so only teslas are able to kill them.

Anyway, the biggest change that you just implemented in 1.25, waves without timer, unfortunately is pretty much a game breaker. It took us 5h30min(with breaks for wc etc.) to complete easy 40 waves because of wc3 unit pathing, or whatever you call it. They were just wandering back and forth between different holes etc. taking forever to reach our base. 5h for 40 waves is a bit of a stretch I think, not many have so much time on hand for 1 game. It took that long with the way we built our base at least, dunno if its that bad always. One more thing, the wave with lurkers, they got into some side hole in rocks, burried and started attacking our air defence. That in itself is not bad, but once he destroyed some turrets and other were out of his reach, he stayed burried. Then you have even longer, infinite if you wish wave, since you have to build a turret to reach him, watching out so he doesnt 1 shot you

There was only 1 bug we noticed, bloodlust, on easy at least, worked only for the 1st wave, then no matter how long waves took, it didnt work anymore.

I hope you decide to change it back to timer, since with the way they walk its horrible. All the other additions were great. Thank you very much for continuing your hard work on this map, it's 1 of my favourite on wc3 even after a year=) Sorry for taking so long and any english mistakes I made, its not my primary language, I hope I managed to get my thoughts across.

 

[maddeem]

Hello, first I'd like to thank you for fixing lag from earlier version, I can have a blast playing with my friend now again.

Now on to the topic of new version 1.25. I've just finished playing on easy with a friend on bnet, since we lost our codes with ~70 credits so just to farm some. We didn't play wc3 for a few months, so 1.16f was the last we played. I love the new syonic ubgrades and new skins, rocket turrets seem pretty useless later on versus those air with the hp they now have, and we noticed that tanks no longer can attack air, so only teslas are able to kill them.

Anyway, the biggest change that you just implemented in 1.25, waves without timer, unfortunately is pretty much a game breaker. It took us 5h30min(with breaks for wc etc.) to complete easy 40 waves because of wc3 unit pathing, or whatever you call it. They were just wandering back and forth between different holes etc. taking forever to reach our base. 5h for 40 waves is a bit of a stretch I think, not many have so much time on hand for 1 game. It took that long with the way we built our base at least, dunno if its that bad always. One more thing, the wave with lurkers, they got into some side hole in rocks, burried and started attacking our air defence. That in itself is not bad, but once he destroyed some turrets and other were out of his reach, he stayed burried. Then you have even longer, infinite if you wish wave, since you have to build a turret to reach him, watching out so he doesnt 1 shot you

There was only 1 bug we noticed, bloodlust, on easy at least, worked only for the 1st wave, then no matter how long waves took, it didnt work anymore.

I hope you decide to change it back to timer, since with the way they walk its horrible. All the other additions were great. Thank you very much for continuing your hard work on this map, it's 1 of my favourite on wc3 even after a year=) Sorry for taking so long and any english mistakes I made, its not my primary language, I hope I managed to get my thoughts across.

Ah yes, I will be addressing all these issues. I will be releasing 1.25b today.

 

[Kirus]

Next version 1.25b i will do a solo easy and post replay i think.

I realy admire your work.

I can play any region thats what i was saying.
Garena - Euroloader - Battlenet

And for Hard every second counts ^^ , even with extra time need to find fast a base.
Closed - Enough Crystals

Some times i write the load and -view 3400 to help find a base or -view 3000 but even with that is hard sometimes.
I still not pro gamer so... Don't mind about me...

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To much collor in one post

 

[maddeem]

Next version 1.25b i will do a solo easy and post replay i think.

I realy admire your work.

I can play any region thats what i was saying.
Garena - Euroloader - Battlenet

And for Hard every second counts ^^ , even with extra time need to find fast a base.
Closed - Enough Crystals

Some times i write the load and -view 3400 to help find a base or -view 3000 but even with that is hard sometimes.
I still not pro gamer so... Don't mind about me...

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To much collor in one post

noo dont play this vers.. its highly unstable.
You may be thinking, "mad you haven't released 1.25b yet"
TRUE but all beta versions are friggen rigged and messed up n shit t.t

 

[ryouzai]

noo dont play this vers.. its highly unstable.
You may be thinking, "mad you haven't released 1.25b yet"
TRUE but all beta versions are friggen rigged and messed up n shit t.t

Ya , i play 1 hour 11mins still wave 8 ...time stuck itself

 

[Kirus]

Ya , i play 1 hour 11mins still wave 8 ...time stuck itself

Its not Time - Is the number of creeps on Map you should kill every one to pass wave.

 

[maddeem]

Ok let me thoroughly address each and every issue.

Hello, first I'd like to thank you for fixing lag from earlier version, I can have a blast playing with my friend now again.
Yeah the lag was a big problem in versions earlier than 1.16f, it was the music btw :3
Now on to the topic of new version 1.25. I've just finished playing on easy with a friend on bnet, since we lost our codes with ~70 credits so just to farm some. We didn't play wc3 for a few months, so 1.16f was the last we played.
The code wipe was necessary, too many bugs to abuse in earlier versions :/
I love the new syonic ubgrades and new skins, rocket turrets seem pretty useless later on versus those air with the hp they now have, and we noticed that tanks no longer can attack air, so only teslas are able to kill them.
Heat turrets no longer attack air, but speaking of rocket turrets: I buffed their damage heavily, and you'll see this in 1.26
Anyway, the biggest change that you just implemented in 1.25, waves without timer, unfortunately is pretty much a game breaker. It took us 5h30min(with breaks for wc etc.) to complete easy 40 waves because of wc3 unit pathing, or whatever you call it.
I know it takes a @#!*% ton of time now, and I'm working on ways to fix this. I expect to release new features in 1.26 to speed the waves up a bit.
They were just wandering back and forth between different holes etc. taking forever to reach our base. 5h for 40 waves is a bit of a stretch I think, not many have so much time on hand for 1 game.
Fixed! You were not the first to report this, but thank you for doing so.
It took that long with the way we built our base at least, dunno if its that bad always. One more thing, the wave with lurkers, they got into some side hole in rocks, burried and started attacking our air defence. That in itself is not bad, but once he destroyed some turrets and other were out of his reach, he stayed burried. Then you have even longer, infinite if you wish wave, since you have to build a turret to reach him, watching out so he doesnt 1 shot you
I will decrease the attack range on burrowed lurkers
There was only 1 bug we noticed, bloodlust, on easy at least, worked only for the 1st wave, then no matter how long waves took, it didnt work anymore.
Fixed.
I hope you decide to change it back to timer, since with the way they walk its horrible. All the other additions were great. Thank you very much for continuing your hard work on this map, it's 1 of my favourite on wc3 even after a year=) Sorry for taking so long and any english mistakes I made, its not my primary language, I hope I managed to get my thoughts across.
I'm going to have to do some heavy beta testing on 1.26, but by the time it's done I'm sure each wave will last less than 2 minutes.

Edit: Hehehe 1069 posts
Edit 2: Oh just a little update for those who are following this thread, I've added a cap so that only 30 zerg can be on the map at once. This should help people with FPS problems :3

 

[Captivate]

Hmm, I kinda just want to play Minz 2 naow since Minz 1 has quite a bit of patching to do. >.> lol

 

[Zeatherann]

Okay. Unless you are scripting the unit's pathfinding in JASS then having a 100 zerg wouldn't lag at all. Think about it: Melee 2v2 maps have over 100 units.

Secondary note about mob AI: The spawns should be based on the number of players when the map started. And each player should get his/her own group of zerg that attack towards them. Recalculating this based on events as you see fit (such as finding another base first, a player leaving, ect).

 

[Luk2048]

Thanks for your response, once you release new version we are gonna play it with friend right away, and post our thoughts=) If its possible to make waves last ~2 mins without timer it'd be great, so I'm looking forward to next version.

 

[FullVisor]

hmmm. i havent play this map in starcraft 2... but win!!

 

[Kirus]

Could put 1 min. time to Find base only looking.
The game has 2 hours and 1 min is not that long better than Rmk over and over and over.

The begin time is real important and it take 30 secods(more) to find a base - You need to see if is Really closed.

And share control could Show the partner 's crystals it would help too.

Just sugetions don't need to take seriously...

 

[maddeem]

Okay. Unless you are scripting the unit's pathfinding in JASS then having a 100 zerg wouldn't lag at all. Think about it: Melee 2v2 maps have over 100 units.

Secondary note about mob AI: The spawns should be based on the number of players when the map started. And each player should get his/her own group of zerg that attack towards them. Recalculating this based on events as you see fit (such as finding another base first, a player leaving, ect).

I don't know if I've thoroughly explained the AI I made but here I go:
The AI has 3 different scripted functions.

One being that if a enemy gets within attack range of a zerg (even while moving) it will attack that target. This only occurs however, if the zerg is not already attacking a target.

Two being a targeting system. Once a enemy has been attacked it is stored into a group of attackables. They stay in this group for 90 seconds, or until they are attacked again.

Three being the initial finding part of the AI, if there are no attackables all zerg will target random enemy units on the map. Once a unit is market as attackable 1/3 of the zerg will continue to search for new units to attack while 2/3 go find attackable targets.

This AI is not too heavy, but if you have 100 registered units running through it, the lag is noticeable. Right now the spawning of zerg is based off of how many players are alive and in the game. So the more players the more zerg. But even if you have an 11 player game, the cap will still be 30.

ALSO:
I spent a lot of time brainstorming over how I can decrease the time of the night while still retaining the fact that you have to kill zerg.
So I've come up with a simple solution that should please everyone. Right now nights will last 100 seconds + the number of zerg coming to attack you on that wave. Every second the timer goes down, even if you haven't killed any zerg. However, if you kill zerg it will also decrease the time by one second. So if you have a base that destroys zerg like nobody's business then you can complete the game at quite a fast pace.

With that being said the boss waves are the same. You must kill the boss in order to make it to the day. The blood lust feature is removed currently. But I'm going to see during beta testing to see if this is a good idea.

 

[maddeem]

Updated!
I believe this is the most stable version yet.

 

[Zeatherann]

There has to be a better AI method that this. Or at least, a way to get rid of the lag caused by this one.

Interesting night time theory. Why 100 seconds (1min, 40 seconds)? Is daytime is 60 seconds long that's 2 minutes and 40 seconds each wave. That's 6,400 seconds, or 1 hour 46 minutes, and 40 seconds (40 waves). This doesn't include anything before, or including the night of, wave 1.

Night time should still be skippable if all zerg died. Night time sucks because of the lighting (which is a really cool system ya got, i kinda wanna know how you did that). And the lower sight radius. Maybe make night be 60 long +2 seconds/zerg and when/if all zerg die then it goes to day. This way if you have an uber base that slays all zerg then the game can progress quickly, but if you don't have such a base, the game can drag on. This would be a form of incentive to get turrets, over masses of walls.

Secondary note: Make different buildings take up a different pathing size. It's so boring to get a perfectly grid-aligned base. If some buildings were 4x4, other 6x6, and maybe an 8x8 or two it'd force players to either have misaligned buildings (not that the mineral/terrain gen made grid-aligned terrain), or they'd have to use actual pathing sense and math (shock) and note that 2 6x6 buildings is as long as 3 4x4 buildings.

 

[maddeem]

there has to be a better ai method that this. Or at least, a way to get rid of the lag caused by this one.
i haven't found any other ai methods that work as well as the current setup. I could increase it's efficiency, but meh its fine as it is.
interesting night time theory. Why 100 seconds (1min, 40 seconds)? Is daytime is 60 seconds long that's 2 minutes and 40 seconds each wave. That's 6,400 seconds, or 1 hour 46 minutes, and 40 seconds (40 waves). This doesn't include anything before, or including the night of, wave 1.
100 is a good base time. Killing zerg result in a 1 second removal of the timer. Speeding up the night.
night time should still be skippable if all zerg died.
it currently does skip if all zerg are dead.
night time sucks because of the lighting (which is a really cool system ya got, i kinda wanna know how you did that).
gotta get them lamps going lol
and the lower sight radius. Maybe make night be 60 long +2 seconds/zerg and when/if all zerg die then it goes to day. This way if you have an uber base that slays all zerg then the game can progress quickly, but if you don't have such a base, the game can drag on. This would be a form of incentive to get turrets, over masses of walls.
yup, this is how the game currently operates
secondary note: Make different buildings take up a different pathing size. It's so boring to get a perfectly grid-aligned base. If some buildings were 4x4, other 6x6, and maybe an 8x8 or two it'd force players to either have misaligned buildings (not that the mineral/terrain gen made grid-aligned terrain), or they'd have to use actual pathing sense and math (shock) and note that 2 6x6 buildings is as long as 3 4x4 buildings.
waygate is a 4x4 lol
but other than that i don't think there's any reason to make the player stress out more. I like grid-like bases d:

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[Zeatherann]

Didn't realize that the night skips all together, why make zerg subtract from the night time then? Lamps don't help with the night time fog much beyond 512 (the night time effect is amazing, i love it)

Making turrets (towers in case i forget to call them turrets) and walls 4x4 is perfect, even the regenerator and generators are good as 4x4. but why not make resource nodes/tech buildings 6x6?

 

[AnonymousPro]

Then I'll just change it a little bit so that I can play it and save in Single Player. lol.
Ehh it removed my rating...
10/5 again ;o

 

[Zeatherann]

Lol, hacking for the win! It's probably under the Scripts directory, and is probably obfusticated and hard to read (due to 'optimizer' and vJASS)

 

[maddeem]

Didn't realize that the night skips all together, why make zerg subtract from the night time then? Lamps don't help with the night time fog much beyond 512 (the night time effect is amazing, i love it)

Making turrets (towers in case i forget to call them turrets) and walls 4x4 is perfect, even the regenerator and generators are good as 4x4. but why not make resource nodes/tech buildings 6x6?

Because even if you cannot kill all the zerg before the day starts, you still get some time reduced.
Walls are 2x2 xD
And minerals 3x3 wouldn't match their current scale :O

 

[Luk2048]

Wow this version is fast-paced, 44 sec for day is kinda not much. Got few questions/suggestions, if you increased wall hp that much something needs to be done with regenerators repair speed I think, and is 44 seconds for day right or is that some bug? And also, third or fourth wave with 800 hp made me go WOW, destroyed us on normal lol.

 

[maddeem]

Wow this version is fast-paced, 44 sec for day is kinda not much. Got few questions/suggestions, if you increased wall hp that much something needs to be done with regenerators repair speed I think, and is 44 seconds for day right or is that some bug? And also, third or fourth wave with 800 hp made me go WOW, destroyed us on normal lol.

The difficulty affects how much time you have for days. Hell has an 18 second day Lol.
Regens are fine atm, what you need is a high tier wall as soon as possible coupled with at least 3 regenerators.

Also this version isn't too hard if you focus on the walls early, me and my friend got to wave 20 on hard with no credits :3

 

[Luk2048]

Okay thx for tips, we went for economy too much, as we always did with earlier versions haha

 

[Luk2048]

In my opinion its the best version so far!=) We just finished normal with a friend, and it was very fun, fast paced and thrilling. Took even less time than earlier versions.

On another note, air boss destroyed almost whole air defense and all factories with that huge splash, but we managed to hold till 50 and beat that charging boss(sorry for not naming bosses, I have horrible memory to names)

Thank you very much for this fun and stable version! Only thing worth looking into is the hp of walls, its too much I think, we beat normal with Ionic walls, without them losing any hp somehow.(minor bug: dunno if its just us but red crystals tend to disappear/become invisible in nighttime, although you can find them with hp bars and still mine them)

Edit: Also decreasing wave monsters made lag nonexistent, which is very nice=)

 

[maddeem]

In my opinion its the best version so far!=) We just finished normal with a friend, and it was very fun, fast paced and thrilling. Took even less time than earlier versions.

On another note, air boss destroyed almost whole air defense and all factories with that huge splash, but we managed to hold till 50 and beat that charging boss(sorry for not naming bosses, I have horrible memory to names)

Thank you very much for this fun and stable version! Only thing worth looking into is the hp of walls, its too much I think, we beat normal with Ionic walls, without them losing any hp somehow.(minor bug: dunno if its just us but red crystals tend to disappear/become invisible in nighttime, although you can find them with hp bars and still mine them)

Edit: Also decreasing wave monsters made lag nonexistent, which is very nice=)

Dude your report is EXACTLY the response I've been looking for. Seriously you have no idea how much this means to me. I'm friggen hyped.
I'll fix the mineralz dissapearing bug if 1.27 anndddd I will be adding this:

For those of you who don't see it, it's a range checker! All you have to do is select anything with range on it and it will automatically display it!

 

[I_am_Death]

can you increase the day time? it's too short and i need more time

 

[maddeem]

can you increase the day time? it's too short and i need more time

Play on easy and get 90 seconds of day

 

[blazingscore]

OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WAS UPDATED!
Yay that's awesome maddeem. getting it now. ^^

 

[WatsoN]

4/5 it's because when someone die he have to w8 for other and u play this sort of game's with friends , can u make some revive trigger only for the worker not the buildings . we play the game for 2-3 Hour and it became a bit boring , so can u make the change of worker from the credit shop to change the look of the structures or even put another 1-2 rase in the game from the credit shop so when u play it for loong u can unlock them , and evry rase to cost more credit's to unlock and dont get me wrong we gona play this map for a looong looooooong time but evry map need a good END to get u some sense for fullfilment so maby if u decide to add some 2-3 race in the game the last one shude be ofensive rase whit option to rise a army and shit don't known persenotly i would love that ^_^ if u are not strictly Under the shadow of the original starcraft 2 map and can u pute some comand to reduce the echo sound becose i dont wont to play the game on mute evrytime not only me in this i gessjust the echo reduse or somthing ? and that's all i have to say great AWESOME map ^_^ just keep going

 

[Zeatherann]

Sound echo is either in the data file of the sound, or in the options menu under 'sound' in game.

 

[Tonex]

Sup maddeem, it's been ages since I last posted here. Have you implemented any of my unit suggestions? Like the Broodlord, Viper with Blinding Cloud, unit that infests buildings with parasites that do damage over time then spawn out when the building is destroyed, or the unit that throws minions into your base like an Infestor does with Infested Terrans? Also, I keep telling you that you should put in the Sensor Towers that display the floating text exclamation mark, since it shows even over fog.