Locust for a ROC map any idea?

[Eternal.Vision]

Hi everybody,

i got a question for you guys: how do i set locust on my map?

don't answer me object editor>add ability>locust cause its for a ROC map and not for a TFT one.

If anyone knows, let me know

Greetings

 

[jadegolem]

locust is unique to TFT. if you want it in ROC, your stuck because TFT has the crypt lord and RoC doesn't. if you dont have the crpy lord, you dont have locust

 

[Meticulous]

Not entirely true. You can still have a unit with no model file, a .01 scaling and selection circle, no shadow, etc, and if you make the unit a building and hide its minimap icon it will be virtually non-existent.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Isn't there another way to make any type of unit unclickable? Meticulous you make a good point cause i've already seen and played maps on ROC with locust.
e.g. into the wild XL

 

[Meticulous]

There's a GUI function to clear selection but it has a noticeable delay. I think you can instantly deselect a unit via JASS. Very unfamiliar with RoC editor now, though.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Will the map have less delay if the host as VCK or DR?

And how is the procedure of deselect a unit via JASS?

 

[M4stah]

Make it targetable as tree or decoration, you cant select it that way

 

[Smiddle]

Will the map have less delay if the host as VCK or DR?

And how is the procedure of deselect a unit via JASS?

1. No.

2. call ClearSelectionForPlayer( Player(number-1) )

What I mean with "number-1" is that you have to subtract by one, for example, "Player 1" would be "Player(0)", and "Player 9" would be "Player(8)" in jass.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

How to do that can you explain step by step or is it to long?

 

[Smiddle]

Um, what do you mean? Deselecting a unit via jass?

(I'm not sure if you can use jass in ROC anyway...)

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Actually i don't know either cause Meticulous just posted a thread telling me to do so but I don't understand...I just underline the fact that its suppose to be a map for ROC and I tried Smiddle idead but after when i launch my map for test it ask me Expantion required...kinda sad that ROC can't read all functions like TFT...

 

[M4stah]

... Use my idea, it works in RoC

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Yeah I see but can you plz explain step by step like Smiddle did for is idea? Would be kind from yours.

 

[Smiddle]

Not entirely true. You can still have a unit with no model file, a .01 scaling and selection circle, no shadow, etc, and if you make the unit a building and hide its minimap icon it will be virtually non-existent.


Go to the unit's "Model file" field, click "custom", and enter nothing but ".mdl".
Then go to the "Scaling value" and "Selection scale" fields and enter "0.01" into both of them.
After that, go to "Shadow image (unit)" and change "normal" to "none".

There is also some more things, like changing death type to "can't raise, does not decay", speed base to 0, movement type to flying, food cost 0, cast backswing and cast point to 0, and that's all I can remember for now.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

If I type only ".mdl" in model file>custom it says "could not load file: .mdl"

In the "Scaling value" and "Selection scale" fields I can't enter less then 0.10

"Shadow image (unit)" is ok!

By changing those 4 settings will make my units unclickable?

 

[Smiddle]

1. It's supposed to do that.
2. Oh, then set it to 0,1.
3. Good.
4. I think so... it can still be damaged, but you fix that by adding "Invulnerable (Neutral)" as an ability to the unit, or by using the trigger "Make unit invulnerable". I'm not sure if those are in RoC, though... the only way to find out is to test the map.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

I found all but it doesn't work on ROC cause normally I can't modify the "Shadow Image (unit)" -field that can be changed but only for TFT maps-

 

[Smiddle]

Oh. Can you change the width/height of the shadow? If so, set it to the lowest.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Can't change that neither! -.-' I feel stuck and I know that is possible since I played a map with locust on ROC but really annoying to found the way. And the map i played is a protected one so I can't even manage to find out how it works!

 

[Need_O2]

Buy TFT
its cheaper than socks

 

[Eternal.Vision]

I already have TFT man...the only thing is that i need to know locust for a ROC map...on TFT its easy but i can't figure out on ROC...and the map i'm making is a maze map and on TFT most of the custom games are based on DOTA and not many people host maze maps..if someone knows the way and can explain me how to do it step by step it would kind and appreciated...thx!

 

[reza sword2]

Buy TFT
its cheaper than socks

Not entirely true.

I already have TFT man...the only thing is that i need to know locust for a ROC map...on TFT its easy but i can't figure out on ROC...and the map i'm making is a maze map and on TFT most of the custom games are based on DOTA and not many people host maze maps..if someone knows the way and can explain me how to do it step by step it would kind and appreciated...thx!

Most people don't play on ROC anymore. My suggestion is you make a kick-ass TFT maze map.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

I could,why not, but tell me what's the purpose when 3/4 hosted maps are DOTA.

 

[reza sword2]

A map is not judged by how many people plays it. A map is judged on other things like gameplay, the graphics, the originality and other things. Think of a map as an artwork.

That's what I think.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

I'm ok with that but what's the point of making a map if it's never hosted don't you think that the map creator is wasting is time to make a map that people won't play?

 

[Sparten1one7]

Does RoC have the Hide Unit triggers? I got that Battle Chest deal so i didn't use RoC editor, If it has the Hide Unit, just use that.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

I don't know could you just describe it for me? I just want to underline that I use TFT world editor to make my ROC map but for ROC i can't change some fields or my map will be only for TFT...:S

 

[Need_O2]

Anyway... who the hell gave you the idea that you can use locust on a RoC map
Im sure its not possible

For invulnurable + unselectable
I think that selection thing depends on model
no no Im sure it depends on model
Lol it wont be selectable if you dont give model anyway
if you want model (just found this solution) use a dummy model with 1 attachment point and has no vertex' and attach a model as special effect to it
It will work I assume
you cant select or rightclick on it

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Ok i just attached a map with locust on ROC just check it...it is possible to use locust in ROC and this map gonna prove it...its protected so don't try to open it cause it will give you fatal error...i don't want to deprotect this map cause i wanna try it on my own or get helped by people...or it would be to easy...and i respect all map creators cause i know its not easy to make a good map and it requires lot of patience and time...

 

[Interceptor]

Did you try using Disease Cloud unit?

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Nope man can you tell me which unit has disease cloud and should it work, i mean step by step what shall i do?

 

[Interceptor]

The disease cloud (Plague Ward) is an Undead Special unit spawned when a unit possessing Disease Cloud ability dies (Abomination) or hits the ground (Meat Wagon).
So, using the Disease Cloud as a custom unit has to help (since it behaves like a locust and is unable to select/damage).
Disease Cloud is located on the Undead race units, in the Special categorization.

 

[Meticulous]

I'm pretty sure Disease Cloud is TFT exclusive as well. That or nobody used it in RoC melee matches (of course, they don't use it in TFT matches either...)

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Yeah Meticulous your right works only for tft any other ideas?

 

[jadegolem]

u cant add locust via triggers. it doesn't work that way

 

[Eternal.Vision]

How does it work then?

 

[Smiddle]

How does it work then?

It simply is required that the units do have it.

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Does this work only for TFT or also for ROC? cause if it's only for a TFT map its not the answer that i'm looking for...

 

[Meticulous]

You can still have a unit with no model file, a .01 scaling and selection circle, no shadow, etc, and if you make the unit a building and hide its minimap icon it will be virtually non-existent.

I don't see why this won't work on RoC?

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Which are all the fields then i'm suppose to change? and am i suppose to change those settings for all of the different type of units that i'm using on my map?

 

[Eternal.Vision]

Anybody got an idea?

 

[Eternal.Vision]

....plz dl the map attached and see how it has been done....