Life of a Peasant Ascension

[Daethz]

Need some fixes.

Classic models are missing

Starting heroes don't have models
Slime boss doesn't have a model
Spitter zombies don't have models
the guy who sells weapons in richman's club has no model. Therefore, you can't buy the axe or red crystal sword.

Suggestions:
Buff terrorist by:
Kill any town unit, get 50 bucks (or more if "combatant" unit). So vehicles, citizens, soldiers, anything. The more things to kill the faster the money will be.
Buff explosion damage for suicide bomber to like, 500 or more so they're worth it. Maybe add upgrades so when people upgrade health, explosions can scale. Definitely should start at 500 so a $200 unit is worth the cost of bringing down another $200+ unit
Buff range of RPG from 1050 to like, 1500 or 2000. That way you could use the RPGs, attack ground in someone's base, and kill their units like that lol
Make nuke stronger. It can't even kill some units lol. There was an Area 52 unit with 800 hp and it had 200-300 hp left from a nuke that cost 8k. Not worth it.

Buff Navy by:
Adding more pirates. More pirates = more money but also like, only source of money. Navy doesn't have much of a chance of getting money or recupping losses for ships.

6.6.1 released with fixes to all of the reported missing models, if you find any more please report them asap.

Good suggestions, writing them down on my to-do, ty.

 

[Man_of_Warcraft]

Greetings! Me again. Well I have some good news and bad news for you. Good news, the new update fixed the problems with the Unholy Teacher and the Holy Priest like a well oiled machine. Bad news that I only just discovered on my last playthrough, the playable Vampire wasn't so fortunate because the same problems with the Priest persisted with the Vampire and I tried both commands and they didn't work and my settings were the same playing on Reforged but set to Classic. Sorry to have to break this to you and give you more work but I figured you wanted to know if you didn't already. So sorry for the inconvenience but I just wanted to let you know so you can iron out another bug for the next release.

 

[Daethz]

Greetings! Me again. Well I have some good news and bad news for you. Good news, the new update fixed the problems with the Unholy Teacher and the Holy Priest like a well oiled machine. Bad news that I only just discovered on my last playthrough, the playable Vampire wasn't so fortunate because the same problems with the Priest persisted with the Vampire and I tried both commands and they didn't work and my settings were the same playing on Reforged but set to Classic. Sorry to have to break this to you and give you more work but I figured you wanted to know if you didn't already. So sorry for the inconvenience but I just wanted to let you know so you can iron out another bug for the next release.

thanks, i changed so many models in 6.6, blizzard is not being responsible by not separating these models into a new category

 

[Daethz]

Alright, another small patch 6.6.2 released
Hopefully I got all of the invisible classic models fixed now, I did look around and couldn't find any more.

 

[theswarm222]

Very nice. I like the changes you made with terrorist compared to 6.5.2. The gold for hero kills and increased gold for unit kills makes terrorist viable. I haven't played much else but 6.5.2 because the people I play with usually use the exploit where you can make things like power armor without spending any gold. Also they like to use things like the oil job to achieve that goal. I hope 6.6.2 can get into the public's eye. The people I play with usually are the ones hosting ascension in the first place.

 

[Blastingdynamic]

Hello! Im rather confused with how samurai is supposed to work. It tells me i need blighted ground for the goldmine and i dont exactly know how to get blighted ground. Im playing on 6.5.2.

 

[Daethz]

Hello! Im rather confused with how samurai is supposed to work. It tells me i need blighted ground for the goldmine and i dont exactly know how to get blighted ground. Im playing on 6.5.2.

That's a bug that was fixed in 6.6
I suggest downloading and playing 6.6.2

 

[theswarm222]

I just played 6.6.2 with some others and it worked well. No one had much trouble not using item recipes. Though, item recipes are now not really used as far as I know. Still, all is well. The earth golem's texture did go away eventually though. It become a mere shadow instead of the golem texture meant for the boss. It's been a long while since this game's been relevant to the loap circle. It's mostly been about loap 3 these days. Still, old and gold. Glad to have played it. My other buddies who I used to play with aren't playing very much any more.

 

[Daethz]

I just played 6.6.2 with some others and it worked well. No one had much trouble not using item recipes. Though, item recipes are now not really used as far as I know. Still, all is well. The earth golem's texture did go away eventually though. It become a mere shadow instead of the golem texture meant for the boss. It's been a long while since this game's been relevant to the loap circle. It's mostly been about loap 3 these days. Still, old and gold. Glad to have played it. My other buddies who I used to play with aren't playing very much any more.

Why is that one popular, less complex?
Booted it up, saw a lot of systems similar to mine.

 

[theswarm222]

Why is that one popular, less complex?
Booted it up, saw a lot of systems similar to mine.

It's a new, currently developed map that's being posted on the loap discord I'm on. It's probably one of the three loap-like maps that has an AI crime system. Updates are being added quite often and the map creator's friends play it regularly.

So it's hosted and talked about in a populated place, it's being developed, and his friends play it a lot. We used to play ascension a lot but for some reason the people who were playing it stopped talking in the discord. I might ask them about it. They still like 6.5.2 so it's not really a version thing.

 

[theswarm222]

It turns out the golem's model isn't the only one that's missing. The trees and one of the forest bosses, not mutantus (or w/e he's called), are missing their textures.

 

[Daethz]

It turns out the golem's model isn't the only one that's missing. The trees and one of the forest bosses, not mutantus (or w/e he's called), are missing their textures.

... Ill work on releasing another patch quicker, I actually just finished a bounty and warrant system I have been thinking about for a long time, now its just adding more stuff to that system
The Trees? I found golem of earth, patient zero boss and the mutated dogs are all invisible, just fixed those.

 

[FSK]

hey could i get a unprotected version of this? I would love to edit it and do to it what I did to gold

LOAP GOLD 3

LOAP GOLD 3 Classic Life of a Peasant with a fully developed criminal record & policing system, a political system, updated models, a new weapons system, and a new factions system (mafia, cartel, street gang). Go to school, get a job, join a faction, commit petty crime--whatever your peasant...

www.hiveworkshop.com

 

[theswarm222]

... Ill work on releasing another patch quicker, I actually just finished a bounty and warrant system I have been thinking about for a long time, now its just adding more stuff to that system
The Trees? I found golem of earth, patient zero boss and the mutated dogs are all invisible, just fixed those.

Lovely work. If you're going to fix anything, I highly suggest the pathing in the hospital. It's nigh impossible to just click inside of it and have your heroes or units go in efficiently. I've had my hero come in from the side and go from the side when I'm pretty sure it's more efficient to go out the front. Also, the left side of the hospital's pathing is kind of jank. I don't think it's a preferred way of entering the hospital. That is unless it's just meant for the car. Then I guess I was confused.

Speaking of the hospital, I think if your pet is in it, it doesn't turn invulnerable. It's been like that for a while IIRC.

And finally, I keep having my bank notes stolen from people when I'm thief or banker. Can you make it if someone isn't those two, it drops immediately or have it so they can actually steal it? So either add functionality to this action or remove functionality. I just had someone who was banker leave the job and take the notes when I myself needed the notes.

Do you have any ideas on how we can end wars between factions? Say you have mafia and police fighting. Technically, if they keep fighting, they'll never actually win or lose if someone gets the upper hand (unless you're mafia lol). Since police have towers protecting the inside, you can't spawn kill and force a surrender, but if police get the upper hand, they can spawn kill mafia or druggy units easily. Police can't be spawn killed and could just amass units from the inside before attacking again. Wars never really end, but they kind of slow down and become boring.

It was just a thought I had when someone went police and we were fighting. It actually never got to that point because he RQ'd before we could really fight.

 

[Daethz]

Lovely work. If you're going to fix anything, I highly suggest the pathing in the hospital. It's nigh impossible to just click inside of it and have your heroes or units go in efficiently. I've had my hero come in from the side and go from the side when I'm pretty sure it's more efficient to go out the front. Also, the left side of the hospital's pathing is kind of jank. I don't think it's a preferred way of entering the hospital. That is unless it's just meant for the car. Then I guess I was confused.

Speaking of the hospital, I think if your pet is in it, it doesn't turn invulnerable. It's been like that for a while IIRC.

And finally, I keep having my bank notes stolen from people when I'm thief or banker. Can you make it if someone isn't those two, it drops immediately or have it so they can actually steal it? So either add functionality to this action or remove functionality. I just had someone who was banker leave the job and take the notes when I myself needed the notes.

Do you have any ideas on how we can end wars between factions? Say you have mafia and police fighting. Technically, if they keep fighting, they'll never actually win or lose if someone gets the upper hand (unless you're mafia lol). Since police have towers protecting the inside, you can't spawn kill and force a surrender, but if police get the upper hand, they can spawn kill mafia or druggy units easily. Police can't be spawn killed and could just amass units from the inside before attacking again. Wars never really end, but they kind of slow down and become boring.

It was just a thought I had when someone went police and we were fighting. It actually never got to that point because he RQ'd before we could really fight.

One issue is police are kinda the odd man out, mafia and cartel have no real reason to fight atm, both have reason to gang up on the police.
The system I just added will actually benefit police the most as another way to make large amounts of income by successfully arresting other players heros.

I could see if I could block units from being built if police/cartel/mafia don't own their own control point, ill add that to my list, but not sure if possible.

Yeah ill add force-dropping bank notes if they don't have a related job, adding to my todo.

The hospital acts that way because its surrounded by anti-air blockers, for some reason those mess with ground pathing too, I don't remember why I blocked off the hospital actually, perhaps I could shrink the anti-air just to the germ area.

 

[theswarm222]

One issue is police are kinda the odd man out, mafia and cartel have no real reason to fight atm, both have reason to gang up on the police.
The system I just added will actually benefit police the most as another way to make large amounts of income by successfully arresting other players heros.

I could see if I could block units from being built if police/cartel/mafia don't own their own control point, ill add that to my list, but not sure if possible.

Yeah ill add force-dropping bank notes if they don't have a related job, adding to my todo.

The hospital acts that way because its surrounded by anti-air blockers, for some reason those mess with ground pathing too, I don't remember why I blocked off the hospital actually, perhaps I could shrink the anti-air just to the germ area.

Mafia and cartel never really had any reason to fight in all other loaps, so don't feel too bad about it. Most people go mafia for their air units and people go cartel because they want to beef up their heroes with drugs (lol). I think loap gold 3 gives money for arresting heroes. I've been arrested and brutalized in that game for very minor offenses. The difference between the two games, though, is that police gets much more tame in the later game until it no longer becomes a threat. Most people won't bother with police since it's an auto-income kind of job versus other jobs that give immediate income. Later in game, money because quite useless, even in 6.5.2, I would be able to get by with very little money. That's great for me, by the way. I hate item crafting with a passion and have always hated the item crafting. I think adding non-automatic income to the police would give new life to it like it has to terrorist. By the way, no one goes terrorist but it's really good (in theory) if you wanna break some skulls. I hadn't been able to go it since I've been too lazy.

That control point thing might work. It could be possible to kill the control point from the outside though, so keep that in mind.

Hell yea for dropping bank notes.

I'd take care with shrinking anti-air to the germ area. It could make it possible to camp germs with air then. It actually might be possible now from the bottom of the hospital, but people usually don't get air units as hospital. It's probably possible to camp germs with units if you have a helicopter giving sight to the germ area and putting units below the spawn point out of the hospital. Will test. What people do is get their pets to kill the germs/graveyard ghosts in later game. I don't see it very often and it's probably not worth it by then though. By the time you get the items for pets, you'll not need money in the first place.

Edit: Just realized pet unit kills are capped at 15 like unit kills. Also, I forgot people can still put towers in the germ area. It really doesn't matter if people spawn kill the germs with units. On another note, I did find a way to make pets useful to kill germs in the early game.

 

[Daethz]

Mafia and cartel never really had any reason to fight in all other loaps, so don't feel too bad about it. Most people go mafia for their air units and people go cartel because they want to beef up their heroes with drugs (lol). I think loap gold 3 gives money for arresting heroes. I've been arrested and brutalized in that game for very minor offenses. The difference between the two games, though, is that police gets much more tame in the later game until it no longer becomes a threat. Most people won't bother with police since it's an auto-income kind of job versus other jobs that give immediate income. Later in game, money because quite useless, even in 6.5.2, I would be able to get by with very little money. That's great for me, by the way. I hate item crafting with a passion and have always hated the item crafting. I think adding non-automatic income to the police would give new life to it like it has to terrorist. By the way, no one goes terrorist but it's really good (in theory) if you wanna break some skulls. I hadn't been able to go it since I've been too lazy.

That control point thing might work. It could be possible to kill the control point from the outside though, so keep that in mind.

Hell yea for dropping bank notes.

I'd take care with shrinking anti-air to the germ area. It could make it possible to camp germs with air then. It actually might be possible now from the bottom of the hospital, but people usually don't get air units as hospital. It's probably possible to camp germs with units if you have a helicopter giving sight to the germ area and putting units below the spawn point out of the hospital. Will test. What people do is get their pets to kill the germs/graveyard ghosts in later game. I don't see it very often and it's probably not worth it by then though. By the time you get the items for pets, you'll not need money in the first place.

Edit: Just realized pet unit kills are capped at 15 like unit kills. Also, I forgot people can still put towers in the germ area. It really doesn't matter if people spawn kill the germs with units. On another note, I did find a way to make pets useful to kill germs in the early game.

Yeah, units can be used to farm germs and graveyard, that's why I made the prize substantially lower for non-hero units killing them
Pets are useful for that, assuming you don't let them get killed.

I made item crafting as a alternate way to get good items other than just spending the entire game in the forest, not really as a required thing, just like the pve arena.

I think ill probably end up releasing the new warrant system half finished, the bounty system is finished but theres so many things to add to the warrant system.
I'd also like to throw in a enhanced police system, thinking up how i could do that without making units blatantly spawn in front of you.

 

[theswarm222]

Okay Daethz, I just beat the hardest boss, the Phoenix boss, with just units. I think I'll end this thing when I beat Death with units only. There's no topping that. No hero either by the way. I've killed all the bosses with units only.

 

[theswarm222]

Suggestions:

In the area 52 job...
-Purified trooper costs one more food than heavy purified trooper. Purified trooper costs 6 food, heavy purified trooper costs 7 food.
Gang airpad and garage have the same hotkey (G).
-Mind controlled zombies don't infect villagers or even creeps. Is that intentional? It's probably impossible to expand the horde without players but it might also be better to limit that since there's a hard limit on food in this game. However, Z-tank DOES work on villagers.
-If you spawn in the Z-tank first, it'll get stuck in the garage. Any other tanks after that do not get stuck, but you lose 15 food because that tank can't get out of the garage. It's stuck in the building that makes it.



-Gang sharpshooter, supplier, and drug storage have the same hotkey (S)

-I was playing singleplayer for testing purposes. It didn't put the zombie killer building on the street corners. It's the one where you can buy the zombie killer item, the zombie killer marine, and zombie killer robot from. It also never spawned Nemesis when I finished all of the upgrades, even after a lot of time had gone by.

-Towers are just not worth it. lol. Probably just do nothing with that. Would be nice to be able to put anti-zombie towers on each corner though without huge expense.

Have you considered making more food available or lowering food requirements on some units? Luckily some units use no food so they can be used as go-to soldiers. I really only have problems when playing in weird ways though. I just tried to kill the mother earth boss with the gangster purifiers (6 food each, 700) and I also have to watch food when using air to kill some other bosses. Air is actually still very good against bosses since spells don't hit them.

Still working on death btw. Mother Earth was hard enough with her constant healing. Units don't really automatically attack the tree she spawns to heal automatically.

Edit: Oh, and consider mapping all spells to Q,W,E,R, etc.? Imo it'd make using spells a lot better.

 

[Daethz]

-I was playing singleplayer for testing purposes. It didn't put the zombie killer building on the street corners. It's the one where you can buy the zombie killer item, the zombie killer marine, and zombie killer robot from. It also never spawned Nemesis when I finished all of the upgrades, even after a lot of time had gone by.

I wonder if I broke that when I added the way to prevent the invasion (by killing patient zero), will investigate.

-Mind controlled zombies don't infect villagers or even creeps. Is that intentional? It's probably impossible to expand the horde without players but it might also be

I don't want killing forest enemy's to spawn zombie hordes, but will look/fix infecting regular civilians (passive and town units)

Gang airpad and garage have the same hotkey (G).

-Gang sharpshooter, supplier, and drug storage have the same hotkey (S)

Edit: Oh, and consider mapping all spells to Q,W,E,R, etc.? Imo it'd make using spells a lot better.

Hotkeys are one thing I haven't really optimized, as im not sure what people want.
QWER might work, but then I ask myself is it possible anyone has hotkeyed WASD to work in wc3, Ill look into tightening up the spell hotkeys to being as close to WASD as possible though.

hey could i get a unprotected version of this? I would love to edit it and do to it what I did to gold

LOAP GOLD 3

LOAP GOLD 3 Classic Life of a Peasant with a fully developed criminal record & policing system, a political system, updated models, a new weapons system, and a new factions system (mafia, cartel, street gang). Go to school, get a job, join a faction, commit petty crime--whatever your peasant...

www.hiveworkshop.com

I like to be the only producer of this specific LoaP but I am open to suggestions.

 

[theswarm222]

Suggestions:

In the area 52 job...
-Purified trooper costs one more food than heavy purified trooper. Purified trooper costs 6 food, heavy purified trooper costs 7 food.
Gang airpad and garage have the same hotkey (G).
-Mind controlled zombies don't infect villagers or even creeps. Is that intentional? It's probably impossible to expand the horde without players but it might also be better to limit that since there's a hard limit on food in this game. However, Z-tank DOES work on villagers.
-If you spawn in the Z-tank first, it'll get stuck in the garage. Any other tanks after that do not get stuck, but you lose 15 food because that tank can't get out of the garage. It's stuck in the building that makes it.



-Gang sharpshooter, supplier, and drug storage have the same hotkey (S)

-I was playing singleplayer for testing purposes. It didn't put the zombie killer building on the street corners. It's the one where you can buy the zombie killer item, the zombie killer marine, and zombie killer robot from. It also never spawned Nemesis when I finished all of the upgrades, even after a lot of time had gone by.

-Towers are just not worth it. lol. Probably just do nothing with that. Would be nice to be able to put anti-zombie towers on each corner though without huge expense.

Have you considered making more food available or lowering food requirements on some units? Luckily some units use no food so they can be used as go-to soldiers. I really only have problems when playing in weird ways though. I just tried to kill the mother earth boss with the gangster purifiers (6 food each, 700) and I also have to watch food when using air to kill some other bosses. Air is actually still very good against bosses since spells don't hit them.

Still working on death btw. Mother Earth was hard enough with her constant healing. Units don't really automatically attack the tree she spawns to heal automatically.

Edit: Oh, and consider mapping all spells to Q,W,E,R, etc.? Imo it'd make using spells a lot better.

Alright a few more that might help you when optimizing hotkeys.

Samurai training grounds and dojo have the same hotkey (S)
Samurai master and beserkers have the same hotkey (S)

And finally, mafia swordsman unit portrait is just a green box. This is the box you click when you're training it.
Also just in case, golem is invis and somehow trees become invisible. They don't start invis but they for some reason just become invisible.

Prob gonna stop playing for a while. I'm burnt out.

 

[theswarm222]

I was requested to host loap ascension. I was doing battle with a guy over a few factions, mainly area 52 and terrorists. As terrorists, the same criticism applies with police. Since the towers can reach most units in the base, save for the units at the way back at the base, right next to the spawner, it's impossible to end a war between the army and terrorists. Terrorists have the sapper unit which could also prevent spawn camping or ending wars. I've had a few of those guys destroy about a group of my units so they're very useful. I think terrorists are actually better than army if they have those sappers. I haven't tried the tanks though, so that's still up for debate.

Also, since this was 6.5.2 and not 6.6.2, terrorists were nerfed and I still had a hard time with them. I think terrorists by this time can have much more income than army does. It wasn't much of a problem for me since I know how to get a lot of money, but for the people who don't know, a sapper could kill all the units in the army base and be able to camp the army's spawner because there are no towers nearby to prevent that.

Not really a suggestion but a realization.

You can spawn kill army but not terrorist, terrorist has a lot of ways to get income and army doesn't, and sappers can straight up annihilate the army's army.

 

[Daethz]

I was requested to host loap ascension. I was doing battle with a guy over a few factions, mainly area 52 and terrorists. As terrorists, the same criticism applies with police. Since the towers can reach most units in the base, save for the units at the way back at the base, right next to the spawner, it's impossible to end a war between the army and terrorists. Terrorists have the sapper unit which could also prevent spawn camping or ending wars. I've had a few of those guys destroy about a group of my units so they're very useful. I think terrorists are actually better than army if they have those sappers. I haven't tried the tanks though, so that's still up for debate.

Also, since this was 6.5.2 and not 6.6.2, terrorists were nerfed and I still had a hard time with them. I think terrorists by this time can have much more income than army does. It wasn't much of a problem for me since I know how to get a lot of money, but for the people who don't know, a sapper could kill all the units in the army base and be able to camp the army's spawner because there are no towers nearby to prevent that.

Not really a suggestion but a realization.

You can spawn kill army but not terrorist, terrorist has a lot of ways to get income and army doesn't, and sappers can straight up annihilate the army's army.

In the next patch I have added a stronger infantry unit to army that takes substantially longer to train, and a second anti infantry unit even stronger than that one that is locked behind a upgrade.
Plus i have made the regular army soldier faster to train and cheaper, (but their health has also been reduced about 10%)
Doing a few things to all tanks in general too.

 

[theswarm222]

In the next patch I have added a stronger infantry unit to army that takes substantially longer to train, and a second anti infantry unit even stronger than that one that is locked behind a upgrade.
Plus i have made the regular army soldier faster to train and cheaper, (but their health has also been reduced about 10%)
Doing a few things to all tanks in general too.

Will prob give that a look with a friend when it comes out. I assume the same thing's going to happen. Army is going to get killed by the sapper. Sapper obviously gets useless with health upgrades. The battles never really last that long since people will leave when the killing dies down. It usually happens when the armies aren't well equipped and upgrades need to happen. My opponent left because I stopped attacking. In reality, I was maxing my infantry upgrades (not unit upgrades). I probably should've gone with unit upgrades too. He probably would have won if he kept attacking me at the gym with sappers and his terrorist troops, but then, I would've probably went and gotten the cow hero and demolished his army with that. In the end, I think the battle would be very dynamic if both people were using all methods of income earning plus active warring. So many outcomes that make terrorist vs army interesting.

Ha, too bad I'd hate it though. There's no way in hell I could beat someone at this. I suck at RTS games and management.

 

[Daethz]

The next patch is getting quite large, will be 6.7 instead of a 6.6.x
Been trying to add in more things to make the game more immersive, like the weather system I just added

I just changed the sappers to scale up with damage upgrades, so they will be useful until endgame.
I intend those to be one of the primary units of that faction, but army just got its own reinforcements.

 

[theswarm222]

The next patch is getting quite large, will be 6.7 instead of a 6.6.x
Been trying to add in more things to make the game more immersive, like the weather system I just added

I just changed the sappers to scale up with damage upgrades, so they will be useful until endgame.
I intend those to be one of the primary units of that faction, but army just got its own reinforcements.

I'm sure your decisions regarding these two factions will be more than satisfactory. If I find the factions are unbalanced I'll make sure to inform you anyhow.

 

[Daethz]

Alright, 6.7 released.
Largest patch in a long time, the biggest content addition id say would be the completely renewed alien invasion event, check it out, it has two phases now, the first phase is alien aircraft the second is the aliens setting up teleporters and commencing a ground invasion.

Tell me if you prefer the new camera or the old camera system better please! there does appear to be a bug in it, I caused it once, but tried several more times and couldn't get it to happen again.
And if you see any bugs with the bounty/warrant system please tell me asap and preferably how to recreate the issue as I have only been able to test it solo.

And as always report any bugs asap please, so I can patch them out.


Happy turkey day!

 

[Man_of_Warcraft]

Greetings LOAP Ascension community! I'm sure we're probably still all celebrating the new release but I am turning to you all because I am at my wits end on something and I need you all. It's about getting the Ascended End game hero. I know that part of it involves putting the soul rod in the soul rod holder in front of the Altar of Ascension but other than that I don't have a clue what to do. Please somebody help a sad guy here out! I've literally played as every secret hero but the Ascended so this is really bugging me. Please community give me some guidance! Thank you all and hail Daethz!

 

[Daethz]

Greetings LOAP Ascension community! I'm sure we're probably still all celebrating the new release but I am turning to you all because I am at my wits end on something and I need you all. It's about getting the Ascended End game hero. I know that part of it involves putting the soul rod in the soul rod holder in front of the Altar of Ascension but other than that I don't have a clue what to do. Please somebody help a sad guy here out! I've literally played as every secret hero but the Ascended so this is really bugging me. Please community give me some guidance! Thank you all and hail Daethz!

Spoiler

You have to be a specific hero with a specific endgame item and kill the altar with that hero while the soul rod is placed, the rocks around the altar are a subtle reminder of the hero you want.

By the way, what other ability's would people like to see added to the ascended hero?
At that point in the game the basic attack is so strong that damage abilitys are somewhat redundant.

 

[Man_of_Warcraft]

Spoiler

You have to be a specific hero with a specific endgame item and kill the altar with that hero while the soul rod is placed, the rocks around the altar are a subtle reminder of the hero you want.

By the way, what other ability's would people like to see added to the ascended hero?
At that point in the game the basic attack is so strong that damage abilitys are somewhat redundant.

OH! I think i get it now. thank you very much Daethz!

 

[theswarm222]

-The text for starting the thief job incorrect spells thief as "theif"
-Governor can pick up bank notes. I quit thief job and could pick up bank notes. Also they were still in my inventory when I left it with the notes in. In fact, maybe they should just respawn if that happens or something.
-Police job also assigns the player as a garbageman as well.
-Police keeps northern station after resigning
-I think it was intended that the disgusting egg was targetable but since it's a ward, no one can target it. So the spider boss next to the bank is way harder -than it is. The spider boss will regen health and you can't kill the ward to stop it, unlike the mother nature boss
-if you're assassin and kill yourself, the bounty message still appears despite everything else working.
-assassin leave message should just be two separate sentences. That or a ; can be used since the second part of the sentence can be a sentence in itself.
-What does purifier ammunition do? It doesn't allow regular gangsters to stop zombies from re-animating so I don't really know what it does.

Did aliens. Some ships came by and I destroyed them. I didn't really stick around to see what else would happen.

 

[Daethz]

-The text for starting the thief job incorrect spells thief as "theif"
-Governor can pick up bank notes. I quit thief job and could pick up bank notes. Also they were still in my inventory when I left it with the notes in. In fact, maybe they should just respawn if that happens or something.
-Police job also assigns the player as a garbageman as well.
-Police keeps northern station after resigning
-I think it was intended that the disgusting egg was targetable but since it's a ward, no one can target it. So the spider boss next to the bank is way harder -than it is. The spider boss will regen health and you can't kill the ward to stop it, unlike the mother nature boss
-if you're assassin and kill yourself, the bounty message still appears despite everything else working.
-assassin leave message should just be two separate sentences. That or a ; can be used since the second part of the sentence can be a sentence in itself.
-What does purifier ammunition do? It doesn't allow regular gangsters to stop zombies from re-animating so I don't really know what it does.

Did aliens. Some ships came by and I destroyed them. I didn't really stick around to see what else would happen.

Gotta kill the alien mothership which spawns over the park to trigger the ground invasion.

Fixed everything you mentioned, the purifier upgrade was redundant, I removed it and renamed the earlier zombie upgrade to that ones name. I honestly don't remember why that one existed, it's on my to do list to clean up and organize the gang stuff better.

Releasing this bug patch right now.

 

[Daethz]

Added a poll for the camera system at the bottom of the header above, after you have played 6.7x and have experienced the new camera system please vote for which one you prefer, the new one with the extra functions and overlay, or the old simple command based one.
Please Vote, Thank you!

 

[theswarm222]

Gotta kill the alien mothership which spawns over the park to trigger the ground invasion.

Fixed everything you mentioned, the purifier upgrade was redundant, I removed it and renamed the earlier zombie upgrade to that ones name. I honestly don't remember why that one existed, it's on my to do list to clean up and organize the gang stuff better.

Releasing this bug patch right now.

This game is getting better and better. I'm running out of suggestions. Btw, assassin is so exploitable with the new bounty system. I'm not sure how you'll address that. Assassin is actually a really good job as is, but no one actually uses it. I'm game for buffs if you think it's needed though.

I voted for the latest camera because I like how you can scroll with the second mouse button and your zoom won't get back to defaults. Also the angle option is pretty good too. It still reminds me of FSK's loap gold 3, which is pretty funny. If you add a few more things, loap gold 3 and this one will have a lot of similar features. All you need is AI cops lol.

Btw, for future reference, when stealing from the bank as a thief and you get caught by the cameras, does it still award you money? I would assume so but I'm still very skeptical and I never checked.

 

[Daethz]

This game is getting better and better. I'm running out of suggestions. Btw, assassin is so exploitable with the new bounty system. I'm not sure how you'll address that. Assassin is actually a really good job as is, but no one actually uses it. I'm game for buffs if you think it's needed though.

I voted for the latest camera because I like how you can scroll with the second mouse button and your zoom won't get back to defaults. Also the angle option is pretty good too. It still reminds me of FSK's loap gold 3, which is pretty funny. If you add a few more things, loap gold 3 and this one will have a lot of similar features. All you need is AI cops lol.

Btw, for future reference, when stealing from the bank as a thief and you get caught by the cameras, does it still award you money? I would assume so but I'm still very skeptical and I never checked.

Yes, you still get money for robbing the bank, nothing stops that part, just a chance for warrants.

By exploitable you mean it rewards too much? I was wondering if the 300% was too high, but It's high to really really encourage pvp, I may lower it to 250% atleast.

Edit: just changed up police a little, lots of street cops around the map that remain in towns control the entire game, all nearby cops will attack you if you attack one of them, and they have a percentage chance to call for backup which will spawn in the vicinity and attack the attacker.
And they will respawn just like peasants do.
Also going to make it so town gets upgrades every 5 minutes like players do so those street cops get stronger over time.

 

[theswarm222]

Yes, you still get money for robbing the bank, nothing stops that part, just a chance for warrants.

By exploitable you mean it rewards too much? I was wondering if the 300% was too high, but It's high to really really encourage pvp, I may lower it to 250% atleast.

Edit: just changed up police a little, lots of street cops around the map that remain in towns control the entire game, all nearby cops will attack you if you attack one of them, and they have a percentage chance to call for backup which will spawn in the vicinity and attack the attacker.
And they will respawn just like peasants do.
Also going to make it so town gets upgrades every 5 minutes like players do so those street cops get stronger over time.

Yes, you still get money for robbing the bank, nothing stops that part, just a chance for warrants.

By exploitable you mean it rewards too much? I was wondering if the 300% was too high, but It's high to really really encourage pvp, I may lower it to 250% atleast.

Edit: just changed up police a little, lots of street cops around the map that remain in towns control the entire game, all nearby cops will attack you if you attack one of them, and they have a percentage chance to call for backup which will spawn in the vicinity and attack the attacker.
And they will respawn just like peasants do.
Also going to make it so town gets upgrades every 5 minutes like players do so those street cops get stronger over time.

By exploitable I mean a friend can kill their buddy who puts a warrant out for themselves or kill their friend after they put a bounty on themselves and then infinite money. I did that as a test actually. It took me a few minutes to get 12k - which isn't actually the best way to get money - but if you have a bounty of 10k, your killer will get 30k. I could see this as a very easy way of getting money that isn't creative in the slightest.

There are other ways to get money that take a bit of creativity to think but anyone could figure this one out.

Also sad that you can genocide the entire city and get it down to zero food but happy police are buffed I guess? No one actually attacks the NPC police but it'll add a bit more flavor to the game. BTW the least amount of food I got the town to is about 180 food. That was a grind.

 

[Daethz]

By exploitable I mean a friend can kill their buddy who puts a warrant out for themselves or kill their friend after they put a bounty on themselves and then infinite money. I did that as a test actually. It took me a few minutes to get 12k - which isn't actually the best way to get money - but if you have a bounty of 10k, your killer will get 30k. I could see this as a very easy way of getting money that isn't creative in the slightest.

I made it a little bit more difficult, assassin job holder can't purchase bounty's anymore, but they could theoretically quit the job, go buy a bounty, and then retake the job.
I also sliced the tiny auto income in half

At the very least it wont be as easy anymore.
-Going to keep it at 300%, it's a integer so i have to go up in intervals of 100%

Also going to make it so you cant buy a bounty on yourself

 

[mremob]

Great map, but Mutatos' "Mutated Slice" ability crashes the game (tested only on classical graphics). Tried it twice.

 

[Daethz]

Great map, but Mutatos' "Mutated Slice" ability crashes the game (tested only on classical graphics). Tried it twice.

weird i just tried every level of the ability on both classic and reforged and didn't crash
Did you have any specific item or use it on any specific unit each time it crashed?

It's a modified shadow strike, I had decay power and decay damage set to zero, but I just went ahead and changed the spell to use those because It's probably the cause, spell will deal more damage now but have a longer cooldown, but hopefully this should fix any crash.

 

[theswarm222]

-impeach requires 9 votes even if there are less players
-apparently dropping illegal weapons as police takes away your job. Couldn't really test that myself without going druggy. Never bothered lol.
-assassin stealth key (windwalk) is S, the same hotkey for stop
-might be possible to prevent people from getting samurai by killing the samurai NPC units before anyone gets it because you need to use the item on non-hero samurai units (tested).
-I managed to get probably 200k in 20 minutes from the bounty system and another player by setting the bounty on them as an assassin, then killing their hero. I could probably do it way faster though. Probably 200k in 10-15 minutes.

This has also been said but a lot of people complain about not being able to move suddenly or not being able to shop suddenly until clicking a closed door or doing -fix. Also apparently unit movement is funky but I've never noticed it. I have noticed that while the hospital is SO much better, it's not seamless to going into the germ area for some reason. For these things, I have no idea if you could fix it but I wanted to make sure you knew since it's the most complained about things about this game.

Non-related, just decided to time some money making techniques and you can get 17k in 2 minutes 30 seconds if you know enough stuff or 10k in about a minute if you do a certain job lol. All at the start if it tickles some people's interest. Wondering how you feel about that kind of stuff personally.

 

[Daethz]

-impeach requires 9 votes even if there are less players
-apparently dropping illegal weapons as police takes away your job. Couldn't really test that myself without going druggy. Never bothered lol.
-assassin stealth key (windwalk) is S, the same hotkey for stop
-might be possible to prevent people from getting samurai by killing the samurai NPC units before anyone gets it because you need to use the item on non-hero samurai units (tested).
-I managed to get probably 200k in 20 minutes from the bounty system and another player by setting the bounty on them as an assassin, then killing their hero. I could probably do it way faster though. Probably 200k in 10-15 minutes.

This has also been said but a lot of people complain about not being able to move suddenly or not being able to shop suddenly until clicking a closed door or doing -fix. Also apparently unit movement is funky but I've never noticed it. I have noticed that while the hospital is SO much better, it's not seamless to going into the germ area for some reason. For these things, I have no idea if you could fix it but I wanted to make sure you knew since it's the most complained about things about this game.

Non-related, just decided to time some money making techniques and you can get 17k in 2 minutes 30 seconds if you know enough stuff or 10k in about a minute if you do a certain job lol. All at the start if it tickles some people's interest. Wondering how you feel about that kind of stuff personally.

Anti air blockers cause the thing with the germ room, Im planning on removing it from most of the police station soon too, as for the clicking bug I have no idea what could be causing that, nobody had reported it in some time I had hoped that was fixed when I changed secret hero transforms.

Samurai units Should respawn, that said I never really tested the respawn, will look into that and mafia.

I'm also going to add a cooldown after taking the assassin job, like "5 minutes after you become an assassin you will receive 3x bounty reward" instead of instantly, to block people from quitting the job, purchasing bounty and then retaking the job.

Ill change stealth to T

If you think any ways to gain money are too good please post, also interested in hearing what people think is the worst job/worst way to make income.

 

[theswarm222]

Anti air blockers cause the thing with the germ room, Im planning on removing it from most of the police station soon too, as for the clicking bug I have no idea what could be causing that, nobody had reported it in some time I had hoped that was fixed when I changed secret hero transforms.

Samurai units Should respawn, that said I never really tested the respawn, will look into that and mafia.

I'm also going to add a cooldown after taking the assassin job, like "5 minutes after you become an assassin you will receive 3x bounty reward" instead of instantly, to block people from quitting the job, purchasing bounty and then retaking the job.

Ill change stealth to T

If you think any ways to gain money are too good please post, also interested in hearing what people think is the worst job/worst way to make income.

Glad you're getting rid of the air blockers. For the clicking bug, I'm extremely surprised no one's complained about it. Honestly, I'm glad to have included it in the last post. Wow.

I'm glad samurai units respawn, so that takes care of that.

The cooldown on the assassin job + assassins not being able to put up bounties would work for players not co-operating and it would mean three players instead of two are needed. I think this is a good step in the right direction. Also, there's a de-selection bug for vendors + the clicking bug. They might be the same bug or something, I dunno. They're both solved by clicking a closed door.

I'll find more hotkey problems when I find them.

I actually was wondering what you thought about those money making opportunities. I'm pretty much the only person who uses them for some reason. There are a lot of experienced people though, so some people could use those, but as far as I know, I'm really the only person whose experimented with money making. I have tons of ways to make a lot of money and most people, regardless of job, can find a few ways to make great money outside their jobs. The only broken way to earn money would be the assassin job right now. I'm in favor of these money makers because they all tend to be similar.

Also casino is the worst probably lol. Casino could still do all the money making schemes I'm thinking of or get a different job. In the end, if you get your hero or army strong enough, boss killing becomes the most profitable way of getting money. It's probably possible to optimize it in 30 minutes for most money making bosses but I like to go the full mile at one hour if I'm focusing on my hero. Yes, there are some bosses that are better for making money than others. Also, there are other bosses that you can kill from the get go like the vampire boss. It's popular to go army then spawn kill the vampire boss. It's still not as fast as the methods I choose to use though. There are a bunch of methods where you can get 10-15k every two minutes without boss killing. They're different jobs too, so no competition.

E: Just played a game and d/ced after the aliens came out. Might wanna investigate that. Also there were zombies but that never d/cs anyone.

 

[Daethz]

E: Just played a game and d/ced after the aliens came out. Might wanna investigate that. Also there were zombies but that never d/cs anyone.

the air or land invasion?
Which is weird, the new system is actually less stressful than the old one, I used to lag when it triggered, now I don't.

I just Added small waits between each spawn in the alien invasion, each spawn generates a random point, that point is used and immediately cleaned and replaced, perhaps without any kind of wait it caused issues? shrug.
-I have tested the invasion dozens of times on single player without issue, and I can't find anything that would cause a crash, so if this does not fix it ill inquire on the forums.

Released 6.72, im hoping the switch from computer based waits to game time based waits helps the clicking bug, my only other suspicion would be the taxi system when it de-selects your hero could be leaking into other peoples stuff somehow?

 

[Daethz]

-impeach requires 9 votes even if there are less players
-apparently dropping illegal weapons as police takes away your job. Couldn't really test that myself without going druggy. Never bothered lol.

I have been looking into the impeach, seems what I used can also incorrectly count computer players, I believe I just fixed that for 6.73 but I'm also adding in a simple command for red "-active" which will display how many players the impeach system thinks are active.

As for the weapons crate I Don't see how it could "take away your job", but I do see that there's nothing preventing other players from turning in the crate of weapons, but the prize still goes to the mafia directly, going to fix it so the unit delivering it must be owned by the mafia job holder.

And im really curious on what stage the aliens crashed on, phase 1 air invasion or phase 2 ground invasion which begins the moment the mothership dies

But I went on a leak hunting expedition and believe I have fixed what will amount to several hundred variable leaks over time in a normal game session, so that should help stability, simple things like a point leaking every time someone repicked a hero or any time a boss cast a spell on a location instead of a unit.

 

[theswarm222]

I have been looking into the impeach, seems what I used can also incorrectly count computer players, I believe I just fixed that for 6.73 but I'm also adding in a simple command for red "-active" which will display how many players the impeach system thinks are active.

As for the weapons crate I Don't see how it could "take away your job", but I do see that there's nothing preventing other players from turning in the crate of weapons, but the prize still goes to the mafia directly, going to fix it so the unit delivering it must be owned by the mafia job holder.

And im really curious on what stage the aliens crashed on, phase 1 air invasion or phase 2 ground invasion which begins the moment the mothership dies

But I went on a leak hunting expedition and believe I have fixed what will amount to several hundred variable leaks over time in a normal game session, so that should help stability, simple things like a point leaking every time someone repicked a hero or any time a boss cast a spell on a location instead of a unit.

I'll note that for impeaching when I host. I don't use computers myself but others may.

It was a different player and I wasn't paying attention. I figured I might as well bring it up just in case there's something more to it.

I might be d/cing when phase two comes by. I tried it in singleplayer but couldn't find the mothership. I also tried it with zombies going, which usually is happening when the aliens come out. I didn't d/c. I think it might be multiplayer that causes my d/c and a bunch of other stuff happening. If I could find the mothership I could determine that though.

 

[Daethz]

I'll note that for impeaching when I host. I don't use computers myself but others may.

It was a different player and I wasn't paying attention. I figured I might as well bring it up just in case there's something more to it.

I might be d/cing when phase two comes by. I tried it in singleplayer but couldn't find the mothership. I also tried it with zombies going, which usually is happening when the aliens come out. I didn't d/c. I think it might be multiplayer that causes my d/c and a bunch of other stuff happening. If I could find the mothership I could determine that though.

The mothership is in the park, north of the hospital.

I made a bunch of improvements to the invasion code for 6.73, actually I cut it in half so it should be less stressful to run now.
Ill release it sometime this weekend, probably late sat or sunday.

 

[Azotamentes]

you could try to finish the fisher job and it would also be great if your project (Loap Ascension) had a discord server

 

[Daethz]

you could try to finish the fisher job and it would also be great if your project (Loap Ascension) had a discord server

Hmm, intended fishing to be more of a bonus way to make gold instead of a job, because honestly it would make for a kinda boring job.
As for a discord server.. idk, dunno if I really want to try to moderate that, would make sense if I ever get around to learning how to code other games and make mods and my own standalone games like I have always wanted to.

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6.73 is released, I spent a lot of time drifting through systems looking for leaks and fixing them, cut alien invasion code in half and fixed some wonky stuff i accidentally left in it, so hopefully that helps.

Considering disabling peasant and town police respawns during the invasion, all of those deaths and all of those respawns so quickly I noticed over 15 minutes of not clearing out any aliens the game jumped up an additional ~100mb in ram usage.
-Which is probably from all of the new peasants and police being killed and new ones respawned rapidly.
It happens during zombies too, but respawning peasants really helps with zombie invasion immersion, less so with aliens.

 

[Daethz]

Another small release 6.74, I finished the overhaul of basic units around the map, sea units, ezco units and gang units overhauled rather substantially. Also addressed the peasant/cop respawn situation from my prior post, I simply doubled their respawn times during a alien invasion.

Edit a few days later: Released 6.75, I bumped the maximum hero level up from 100 to 1000, strengthening your hero is practically neverending now.

 

[theswarm222]

If you buy a car from the middle car salesman, near the church, it'll get stuck behind the building, where it can't be retrieved.