Kirin Tor v1.02

[Wa666r]

after that... or after a time... can you do Burgning Legion? xD

Unfortunately, no. I try to stay away from factions a lot of other people have made e.i. Blood Elves, Burning Legion, Dwarves, Naga, etc.

 

[Cristopher]

Ok, thanks

 

[Kyrbi0]

Dwarves? Shame. ; )

 

[Wa666r]

Hopefully the Dark Iron Clan can tide you over.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Hopefully the Dark Iron Clan can tide you over.

They are interesting, but I'm an Ironforge Alliance boy at heart. That, and that Wildhammer Clan I keep telling myself I'll make someday...

 

[Wa666r]

They are interesting, but I'm an Ironforge Alliance boy at heart. That, and that Wildhammer Clan I keep telling myself I'll make someday...

I considered making either of those. There are so many good models available for the Dwarves.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Sooooo many. Can't wait to make them.

 

[Wa666r]

Sooooo many. Can't wait to make them.

Between updating my older maps and trying to work on new ones, it will take some time before I make them.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Between updating my older maps and trying to work on new ones, it will take some time before I make them.

Sure, sure (that, & responding to my mega post ;P).

 

[Venombite]

My favorite of all your races. Very unique, original and interesting.

Sadly the newest patch broke it. Summoning elementals from either the building or spellcasters breaks the game more often than not.

Things you can also change if you ever update the map again:
-Rename map/race from "Dalaran" to "Kirin Tor"
-Add an UI
-Add a fire elemental
-I like that it has both humans and elves, but imo there a little too many elves. Change the channeler and the pyromancer or arcanist to human, or "humanize" them(remove ears and change the faces). Dalaran is predominately a human city.

P.S I copy/pasted this comment to the other Dalaran map to be able to rate it.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Fire Elementals? Really more of a Warlock/Blood Mage/Orc Shaman thing, doncha think? The Mages of the Kirin Tor/Dalaran are really typified by a focus on the element of Water/Ice (hence the standard Archmage having both "Summon Water Elemental" & "Blizzard", patterned after the Warcraft 2 "Mage" & the Warcraft 1 "Conjurer").

Also, I'd argue that Dalaran is pretty thick with Elves (being a naturally-magical race & the ones who originally taught Humans arcane magic after all). I haven't played WoW or gotten too deep into the Lore in a while, but I'd imagine it's at least 60/40 favoring Elves. Maybe 70/30 at most...

 

[Venombite]

Fire Elementals? Really more of a Warlock/Blood Mage/Orc Shaman thing, doncha think? The Mages of the Kirin Tor/Dalaran are really typified by a focus on the element of Water/Ice (hence the standard Archmage having both "Summon Water Elemental" & "Blizzard", patterned after the Warcraft 2 "Mage" & the Warcraft 1 "Conjurer").

Also, I'd argue that Dalaran is pretty thick with Elves (being a naturally-magical race & the ones who originally taught Humans arcane magic after all). I haven't played WoW or gotten too deep into the Lore in a while, but I'd imagine it's at least 60/40 favoring Elves. Maybe 70/30 at most...

Actually the mages of the Kirin Tor use fire as much as Water/Ice. In WoW there is a whole mage specialization called Fire Mage that focuses on fire magic. In WC2 a mage unit has as much fire spells as water/ice. They don't use it in WC3 for aesthetic reasons and because Jaina is a Frost mage(another spec). Blood Mages are mages of Dalaran/Kirin Tor. Summoning elementals is 100% mage thing. Shamans don't do it that way, they worship the elements, and the elements they summon fight with them on their own free will, for a short amount of time, they don't enslave the elements with magic. Warlocks don't do elements, only demons and voidwalkers.
Dalaran was/is one of the seven human kingdoms for a reason(though it is actually a city-state). Humans form a large majority(think I heard somewhere 65% humans, 30% elves(15% high elves, 15% blood elves) and 5% the rest(goblins mostly)). All the former official rulers of Dalaran Antonidas, Jaina, Rhonin, Khadgar are humans. Most known members of the ruling council of 6 were humans there were only few elves(there were as many dragons as the elves in the council). Right know there are 5 humans and 1 dragon in the council. Elves are xenophobic, don't like leaving Quel'thalas and living in a multi racial city. And after WC3 there aren't that many elves left. Humans are the most numerous race, like 20 times more numerous.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I don't really have much to do with/care for WoW & what it did to the world, so I guess we'll just be at odds there when it comes to Lore.

That being said, I would argue that it has to do with more than just aesthetics (i.e. why Wc3 Dalaran mages focus on Water/Ice), but again, that's 'changed' by WoW Lore.

Sounds like my percentages were right about on target, then. ; )

 

[The Nightmare Book]

I'm looking forward to playing it - since it was updated just now...

 

[Wa666r]

I'm looking forward to playing it - since it was updated just now...

Hope you enjoy 'em!

 

[The Nightmare Book]

@Wa666r, you continue delivering to us a very good altered melee race, really. I tried it with AI and honestly, AI did what he could do on "Normal" difficulty - at least tried to fight back.
I really liked those Scryer units whose animation is just pew-pew - it reminds me of a favorite build from Torchlight 2 if playing as a mage, LOL.
Also flying town halls? Why Dalaran wasn't used as a movable & gunned stronghold in WoW - I don't know.
Maybe it was the only way to prevent its destruction by knaifu

In summary, I want to say that this race is nuts. It is not so unbalanced like swarming Qiraji or not so underwhelming like Faceless Black Empire-one.
Mages, a lot of magic, and flying town halls of course. Hell, if only Planetary Fortress in SC2 could fly - it would act like this race.
Like and recommend to all citizens of Dalaran, who raised their eyes and observed the defeat of Algalon the Observer.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I don't know if I'll ever get around to doing big breakdown review posts like I used to... but a man can dream. Anyway, good job on the revamp, man!

 

[Wa666r]

@Wa666r, you continue delivering to us a very good altered melee race, really. I tried it with AI and honestly, AI did what he could do on "Normal" difficulty - at least tried to fight back.
I really liked those Scryer units whose animation is just pew-pew - it reminds me of a favorite build from Torchlight 2 if playing as a mage, LOL.
Also flying town halls? Why Dalaran wasn't used as a movable & gunned stronghold in WoW - I don't know.
Maybe it was the only way to prevent its destruction by knaifu

In summary, I want to say that this race is nuts. It is not so unbalanced like swarming Qiraji or not so underwhelming like Faceless Black Empire-one.
Mages, a lot of magic, and flying town halls of course. Hell, if only Planetary Fortress in SC2 could fly - it would act like this race.
Like and recommend to all citizens of Dalaran, who raised their eyes and observed the defeat of Algalon the Observer.

Its fun-balanced xD
Thanks for trying it out! It turned out to be one of my favorite factions.

I don't know if I'll ever get around to doing big breakdown review posts like I used to... but a man can dream. Anyway, good job on the revamp, man!

Getting old huh? xD