THW.TTC15 Kirin Tor Offensive

[Wazzz]

Given it a little play, looking forward to seeing how this develops over time

 

[Shar Dundred]

Added "Contest Entries" tag.

 

[Footman16]

Kalecgos

• Entropy now affects hostile units and damage Summoned units
• New skin for Kalecgos (normal isn't working but I'll try and fix it)
• New Voice lines for Kalecgos
• Known Issue: Voice lines don't play for Kalecgos in Dragon Form

I thought Kalecgos could use a little more love and to make his Q spell a bit more useful in the early game against Far Seers Spirit Wolves or Archmages Water Elemental, making his W spell less of an obvious choice.

 

[Ardenaso]

I thought Kalecgos was neutral in MoP? Third hero should be Modera

Also looking forward to see those custom assets

 

[Footman16]

I thought Kalecgos was neutral in MoP? Third hero should be Modera

Also looking forward to see those custom assets

Nah I felt that Kalecgos fit better with the overall theme of the race, I don't play WoW but he was heavily involved with the Commander Jaina Proudmoore so he'll be staying I was tempted to add Modera as a 4th hero but I couldn't find a suitable model or the motivation myself to make it.

Most of the custom assets I've made are minor edits at best so I doubt I'll upload them, folk can just export them from the map, as long as I'm credited I don't mind.

How did you find the race to play?

 

[Ardenaso]

laptop can't handle Reforged, and the nearest internet cafe that can run Reforged is like 1000 km from home so it may take me 3 months from now to try this

 

[Footman16]

Jaina Proudmoore

• Choosing Jaina as your First Hero now replaces the High Elven Spellblade in the Arcane Sanctum with the new Kirin Tor Guardian.
• Choosing Kalecgos or Vereesa first will give you the standard Spellblade.
• The Kirin Tor Guardian is a tankier beefier version of the High Elven Spellblade at the cost of movement speed and a weaker dispel.
• Dragonhawk Warriors Ensnare ability has been instead replaced with an inherent ability that when the Dragonhawk Warrior is killed it is only the rider that dies and the Dragonhawk remains as a weak anti-air unit.
• Re-balanced the archer's hit points and cost.
• Fixed a tooltip issue

So I just had to find an excuse to use the Kirin Tor Guardian (Reforged) model by Moonman somewhere in this entry and felt it was appropriate to have your hero choice affect your unit line up. It also helps to make Jaina stand out as the Commander of this entry by giving her a unique unit.

 

[Ithranas]

The swordsman isn´t affected by the armour upgrades

 

[Footman16]

The swordsman isn´t affected by the armour upgrades

Fixed

 

[Malmgrev]

I liked the overall theme and art of the race, the art assets look really nice and it all fits together. Really nice that you added custom voices to Kalecgos and the other heroes. The mana shields on all the buildings is pretty cool, though it reminds much of Protoss.

However, it feels very unfinished and it does not really feel like a co-op commander. It feels more like a normal custom race than co-op as there are no special abilities that you can research for your heroes, or any form of global abilities (except the mana shield on all buildings). The Dragon roost only got 1 Azure Drake to buy which is very underwhelming, the aviary is ok but nothing special about it.

The abilities of Jaina are very cool and Valeera's are not bad either, however Kalecgos is very underwhelming. He needs more interesting abilities and more power, but the aoe healing is pretty neat.

Overall, pretty well done!

 

[Footman16]

I liked the overall theme and art of the race, the art assets look really nice and it all fits together. Really nice that you added custom voices to Kalecgos and the other heroes. The mana shields on all the buildings is pretty cool, though it reminds much of Protoss.

However, it feels very unfinished and it does not really feel like a co-op commander. It feels more like a normal custom race than co-op as there are no special abilities that you can research for your heroes, or any form of global abilities (except the mana shield on all buildings). The Dragon roost only got 1 Azure Drake to buy which is very underwhelming, the aviary is ok but nothing special about it.

The abilities of Jaina are very cool and Valeera's are not bad either, however Kalecgos is very underwhelming. He needs more interesting abilities and more power, but the aoe healing is pretty neat.

Overall, pretty well done!

Hi thanks for the review.

Could you explain a bit about how you think the race is "very unfinished" on contrary i think the race is very well polished and well rounded.

As for the co-op part i get that my understanding of the theme was to make a tech tree centred around a specific hero not necessarily create a co-op commander map that would be closer to a campaign style as opposed to the contest which is altered melee.

The azure drake is similar to the frost wyrm, high tech, high cost end game unit but quite powerful. Yeah in terms of air units the Kirin Tor Offensive dont really have much thats inventive or thematic.

I like Kalecs abilities their versatile and make him effective at support. Though i agree that support heroes are boring to most people if theyre not your thing

 

[Malmgrev]

The Azure Drake is almost a replica of the Frost Wyrm, it should have something more unique so that it feels like an azure dragon. Maybe give it researchable spell immunity, some frost spell or devour. Would be cool to see a flying spellcaster, the Kirin Tor are mages so fits the theme. Maybe make the Azure Drake a spellcaster?

Even a support have some offensive capability, and Kalecgos being a healer doesn't really fit with him being the aspect of magic nor a blue dragon.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Approved!

 

[Runic Cat]

Pretty good map, I didn't have any problems with it, sadly since it can only be played with Reforged graphics I could not enjoy it has much (because my pc can't run Reforged graphics very well), but I still had fun while playing it.