King Tor Castle Defence

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Orcnet

08:10, 20th Aug 2013

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Review

Map Approved

King Tor Castle Defense (No Version/s Stated) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "The Bridge only passing through the human team is kinda small, this makes the invading team hard to push I suggest you place a bigger bridge or just a cliff would do, also both forces has no any proper research value for there units, give such research to make the game more appealing." Terrain "Terrain needs more work, its too plain and only the structures for both teams is giving in the detail." Management "Overall map can be useful." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 8/15 77% C

 

[Wa666r]

Holy crap! you gotta tell me how you made the "Got ideas or a bug...." glow and change colors like that.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Hehe fancy? it is [rainbow]your text[:/rainbow]
Here you go

 

[Radicool]

Ok....

Your map exceeds the multiplayer limit of 8MB. You cannot play this in multiplayer unless you
cut down on filesize. You do this by compressing all the junk in your map. Did you know you have
a massive 476KB skin for an Illidan? Your map preview image is 6MB!!!!!!! Yes 6MB!! Compress,
compress, compress!!

Information (Find my Post): http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/realistic-zombie-survival-v1-02-a-238387/

Your map also has memory leaks. Memory leaks cause your game to lag for players. Your map
will not start laggy, but the lag will accumulate over time and eventually become unbearable.

Tutorial: http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php?view=27219

Green Icons. Green icons means the icon is missing. For every custom icon you have, you need
a DISBTN version of that icon.

Example

Tutorial: http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/icons.php

Then your map looks boring (mainly outside the castle). Consider looking at some terraining tutorials.

There is an excessive use of models. I don't know why you used models for the human archers and
ghouls. The warcraft 3 ones are just fine. It just makes your map look weird, and needlessly increases
the file size.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

It works fine on bnet... some laggs few times.. not big
But i can remove illidan and idk how to cut down the size on the image.
And lol baam you dont know?
I played abour 15 matches with the game.
Almost all liked using customed models why? BECAUSE THEY ARE TIRED TO USE THE SAME TING!
& my terrain its good enough... i asked enough people to review a bit of my map.
no ones complains over the terain or models.
But i dont know why the custom icons are being ''green'' coloured.. I imported everything about that icon.

 

[Daffa]

Make sure you properly set the custom path for those icons.

 

[Radicool]

It works fine on bnet... some laggs few times.. not big
But i can remove illidan and idk how to cut down the size on the image.
And lol baam you dont know?
I played abour 15 matches with the game.
Almost all liked using customed models why? BECAUSE THEY ARE TIRED TO USE THE SAME TING!
& my terrain its good enough... i asked enough people to review a bit of my map.
no ones complains over the terain or models.
But i dont know why the custom icons are being ''green'' coloured.. I imported everything about that icon.

I get the feeling you did not read anything I wrote. Did I waste my time?

It works fine on bnet...

How can you. You cant play with other people because the map is larger than 8MB. I don't believe you.

some laggs few times.. not big

You have memory leaks all through your triggering. Its bad triggering and should be fixed. "Not Big" lag. Wouldn't it be better if there was no lag?

But i can remove illidan and idk how to cut down the size on the image.

Dude. Read my post in the other thing. I explained how to cut down on file size...

no ones complains over the terain or models.

That doesn't mean its good. The castle looks great man, but outside, its pretty poor. Just look into some terraining tutorials.

But i dont know why the custom icons are being ''green'' coloured.. I imported everything about that icon.

Again. Did you read the tutorial I posted?

 

[Radicool]

Here. I have compressed all of the skins and your preview image for you. Deleat the old ones, and import my new ones. You know, when everybody is in the lobby downloading your game. It must take a while. If you compress your map down, you won't have to wait as long for people to download. They will download much faster.

This is the path of one of your icons:

war3mapImported\BTNChaosSpiritGateway.blp

It should be:

BTNChaosSpiritGateway.blp

Now, your disabled version says this:

war3mapImported\DISBTNChaosSpiritGateway.blp

It should be:

ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtonsDisabled\DISBTNChaosSpiritGateway.blp

Got it? No more green icon.

Edit: I changed the compressed files. The Illidan file cannot be compressed sorry. Seems corrupted. Just leave the Illidan skin alone.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

I get the feeling you did not read anything I wrote. Did I waste my time?

I did look at what you writed.

How can you. You cant play with other people because the map is larger than 8MB. I don't believe you.

Have you even played it on bnet?????????

That doesn't mean its good. The castle looks great man, but outside, its pretty poor. Just look into some terraining tutorials.

I knows it aint the best terrain work outside the caslte. But thats kinda the point. It shouldn't be like epic terrain outside. It is a mountain where the demons stay on.

But i dont know why the custom icons are being ''green'' coloured.. I imported everything about that icon.

No i didn't read them at all... Because i have readed them before.

when everybody is in the lobby downloading your game. It must take a while

umm yes.. minimum download time was 100+ some one haved 360 seconds dl time =D lol

Edit: I changed the compressed files. The Illidan file cannot be compressed sorry. Seems corrupted. Just leave the Illidan skin alone.

I just deleted the file. simple as that cant it be?

 

[deathismyfriend]

“Modified Review Inside“

REVIEW

The ratings are weighted depending on what type of map it is. What I mean by weighted is that I give a possible of 50/50 but if they only add up to 25/50 it doesn’t mean that your final rating is a 2/5 I weigh the fields differently. For instance Gameplay is a lot more important than spells.

TRIGGERS	You have a lot of location leaks you should fix. Anything with center of / position of / offset / player start location / random point leaks.	1/5
SPELLS	I would like to see custom spells in a map. It makes it interesting to see something new.	1/5
TOOLTIPS	The tooltips look good. Didn’t see any spelling or grammar problems in them.	5/5
TERRAIN	The terrain is decent. It could use some improvements though. The terrain in the castle is good. The terrain in the demon area could use some more interesting doodads or objects in there. The terrain in between the castle and the demon area is very lacking. I understand that you don’t want to have to much detail there but it should have some trees / different types of terrain to break up the all grass theme it has going there.	2/5
GAME MESSAGES	You do give a small message although I believe you should explain a little more. I would also like to see a short intro in the game to see what I’m supposed to do to start it. A cinematic would be better but that’s your choice.	2/5
CINEMATICS	There is no cinematic. In a map like this I would rather see a cinematic at the start. You should show us what we are trying to survive against.	1/5
ARTWORK	The artwork is nice and solid I haven’t seen any problems with it. I like the artwork that you have in the map. However you are missing some of the icons as they are green. Like when the hero dies.	3/5
QUESTS	The quests could use work. Also notes about receiving things in the quests in the quest is a little odd. That info should be under a different quest called info or something like that.	2/5
GAMEPLAY	I would rather the ability to lvl my hero in the beginning not start at lvl 5 with some of the abilities already learned. In a survival game I understand losing your hero after he dies but you should be able to buy potions and Ankhs to give it a little more of an edge. You should work more on balancing everything. The archers on the human side are very strong in the beginning. They took about 2 shots each to kill the archers that the demons had. It wasn’t fun because it needs major balancing.	1/5
FINAL RATING	Needs Work Balancing is very important in games.	2/5

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If you have any questions or problems with my review please tell me. Original Review Template by Doomlord. Altered by deathismyfriend.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Ok deathismyfriend.
lets start with:
SPELLS.
I would put it in ofcourse! But i tryed do it like hundred times before.
I have asked people how to do it but its something that wouldn't work.
But if i can get a help from some one to do it for me, i would be glad for it!
Second:
TERRAIN.
I appreciate that my castle terain is good. Many in bnet have also said it.
The terrain of demons i aint sure what to say but...
Its a Mountain where the demons are setting camp.
Third:
GAME MESSAGES.
Yes i can work on that, no problem
Fourth:
CINEMATICS.
You said its optional if i gonna have that.
NO i dont gonna have cinematics. I dont know how to make it either.
But that might commes in the future.
Fifth:
ARTWORK.
The artwork you mean by?
And the green icon on when a (HERO) dies will i fix.
Sixth:
QUEST.
Yes im gonna work with that.
Seventh:
GAMEPLAY.
I can change the start level of some Hero's. But the kings will therefor have a bit higher level.
I got a shop for the humans. Im already creating a shop for the Demons.
Yes im already started with the balancing of units.
And ok i will balance it more.
FINAL RATING.
Im like agreed and disagreed with that.
Because i dont gonna have cinematics in the first, so that might commes in the future and i got a 1/5 of it....
Gameplay are im disagreed with. A lot of players on bnet when i played it, says its a good gameplay map. Not all says it but some of em do. But back to balancing yes i will fix that.

 

[deathismyfriend]

It's very hard to read the way you have it. Try some spaces so i can see what I'm reading.

Spells
When you are able to i will increase that rating.

Terrain
Yes but when you think about demons you don't think of something perfectly small without dead bodies or anything like that.

Cinematics
There are plenty of tutorials on here. It's just nice IMO to see a cinematic.

Artwork
Artwork means anything dealing with modified special effects buildings / models / anything else like that.

Gameplay
I don't think you should've tried to get it approved unless it is close to being balanced.
It just doesn't make for a fun game.
Also if you have a shop for humans and not demons that is a very unfair advantage.

Final rating
If a game isn't close to being balanced it can't be good gameplay unless you like destroying everything with one hit.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

I know its a lot of cinematics tutorials.
But i dont gonna make a cinematic for my map.

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved, see moderator comment on top.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Please give feedback guys!

 

[Inhumanality]

Any updates soon? like in this week? :3
Ummm could you create a game that is this all you do is to do some few changes if you could:
make and 3D view and making units following you?
That would be cool! Please respond :3 !

 

[Inhumanality]

“Modified Review Inside“

REVIEW

The ratings are weighted depending on what type of map it is. What I mean by weighted is that I give a possible of 50/50 but if they only add up to 25/50 it doesn’t mean that your final rating is a 2/5 I weigh the fields differently. For instance Gameplay is a lot more important than spells.

TRIGGERS	You have a lot of location leaks you should fix. Anything with center of / position of / offset / player start location / random point leaks.	1/5
SPELLS	I would like to see custom spells in a map. It makes it interesting to see something new.	1/5
TOOLTIPS	The tooltips look good. Didn’t see any spelling or grammar problems in them.	5/5
TERRAIN	The terrain is decent. It could use some improvements though. The terrain in the castle is good. The terrain in the demon area could use some more interesting doodads or objects in there. The terrain in between the castle and the demon area is very lacking. I understand that you don’t want to have to much detail there but it should have some trees / different types of terrain to break up the all grass theme it has going there.	2/5
GAME MESSAGES	You do give a small message although I believe you should explain a little more. I would also like to see a short intro in the game to see what I’m supposed to do to start it. A cinematic would be better but that’s your choice.	2/5
CINEMATICS	There is no cinematic. In a map like this I would rather see a cinematic at the start. You should show us what we are trying to survive against.	1/5
ARTWORK	The artwork is nice and solid I haven’t seen any problems with it. I like the artwork that you have in the map. However you are missing some of the icons as they are green. Like when the hero dies.	3/5
QUESTS	The quests could use work. Also notes about receiving things in the quests in the quest is a little odd. That info should be under a different quest called info or something like that.	2/5
GAMEPLAY	I would rather the ability to lvl my hero in the beginning not start at lvl 5 with some of the abilities already learned. In a survival game I understand losing your hero after he dies but you should be able to buy potions and Ankhs to give it a little more of an edge. You should work more on balancing everything. The archers on the human side are very strong in the beginning. They took about 2 shots each to kill the archers that the demons had. It wasn’t fun because it needs major balancing.	1/5
FINAL RATING	Needs Work Balancing is very important in games.	2/5

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If you have any questions or problems with my review please tell me. Original Review Template by Doomlord. Altered by deathismyfriend.

Dear deathismyfriend.

I totaly agreed with the most of what your telling, the green icons after death should totaly be fixed! The balancing on the team im a bit agreed with but Archers if you think of archers, they dont got any good armor [defence] but it should use some balance. Thought its a defence map and one team needs to be a bit stronger than the other.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Any updates soon? like in this week? :3
Ummm could you create a game that is this all you do is to do some few changes if you could:
make and 3D view and making units following you?
That would be cool! Please respond :3 !

Yeah sure, i will update the map as fast as possible

I can do that but its only to you or ?

 

[Inhumanality]

Yes please, tell me when you are done

 

[SteakMediumRare]

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