KB3D - Knock back 3D

[chobibo]

Is this out already?

 

[Malhorne]

It is not faster it is more readable ^^
EDIT : Dunno if it faster or slower don't know at all

 

[T. D. W.]

How fast is not compared to !=?

no, bowser was pointing the difference here:

if not(Boolean) then
    //Actions 1
endif

//bowser said this ^ is slower than:

if (Boolean) then
else
    //Actions 2
endif

And no, the code/test map are finished but i am writing a better description

 

[chobibo]

Oh, I thought it was one of those weird jass things again. I remember Nestharus saying >= is slower than >,<,=. Weird eh?

Is the code updated already?

 

[T. D. W.]

wait 10 mins from now, and the System will be updated

 

[T. D. W.]

Updated, and Back on TOP of the Spell Section

 

[Malhorne]

Ahah dem troll

 

[chobibo]

Troll?

 

[T. D. W.]

wut?

 

[Malhorne]

No nothing I'm loosing my mind in C programming xD

 

[chobibo]

@Malhorne:
Malhorne: ahaha!
Game Message: Protoss Carrier has arrived.
Malhorne: Where are you taking me?
Zeratul: Dunno...
Malhorne: Crap, don't take me to the protoss asylum! Please!
Zeratul: Who said anything about the asylum? We're going to the Zerg canned goods factory.
Malhorne: Oh. Lemme get my stuff.

 

[T. D. W.]

?

 

[Malhorne]

I'm not really on SC2 so I didn't manage to understand everything xD
But it has a link with the C programming I think ^^

 

[chobibo]

Malhorne's going pro now lol

 

[Malhorne]

What do you mean by pro ^^' ?

 

[chobibo]

protobiotic!

 

[Malhorne]

Oh nice one ^^

 

[Vinz]

*Bump + Plug-In suggestion*
Can you make a function that when enabled and one of all units in a group goes towards some land with much higher height than his current loc, he gets KB'd making it feel like it's too high to reach?

The KB power would also be constant.

MMORPG pathing emulator style. :3

Easy way to get rid of pathing blockers.

 

[T. D. W.]

NO, okay too lazy to discuss this, it's a VETO

~~going to make ma homework

 

[chobibo]

@Wrathion; you see dude, Jad doesn't like plugins, that's why I stopped suggesting plugins to him...

Veto isn't the appropriate word here, since you only do what you want to do... more like a military decision...

 

[T. D. W.]

by veto, i mean a big:

click

NO

lol, mainly like there is no discussion possible for this topic

 

[Vinz]

...y

 

[T. D. W.]

//msg2short

lol

//msg2short (lol = 3 letters)

 

[Vinz]

So. Would you mind. Answering. Love you.
And don't treat it like a plug-in, more like a KBDestroy Tree feature.

 

[T. D. W.]

i didn't treat it like a plugin..
there is such thing as KB_Bounce_Unit and making the feature you are suggesting is the same, just that it only triggers when the height is higher (so mainly the reported lag.. will.. ya know.. be more harmful)

 

[Vinz]

Can units KB'd go higher than 1k height?

 

[T. D. W.]

Yes they can

 

[Vinz]

Wow.. How about another plug-in or feature that stores flying units with 'Wander' ability in a group and rotationally picks them every 0.50 seconds, KB'ing them for a random height to a maximum of (Default Height +250) or a minimum of (Default Height -250).

 

[T. D. W.]

Negative Z offset value doesn't work with KB3D, by this i mean that if you want to decrease the unit's height, KB3D isn't the system to use -- + KB3D doesn't allow height changes that go under the default height of the unit

And i have an idea...
Stop the plug-in ideas IN KB3D... And why not make them individuals... Meaning uploading it as template for KB3D ... More or less extensions..

 

[Vinz]

Okay so I'll do those periodic KBs but please make it configurable to go under default height of the unit..

 

[T. D. W.]

I tried, but the formulas in the system just will bug..
When iKB was created, speed, range, zoffset were supposed to be negative/positive
But zoffset bugged the system

 

[Vinz]

Why does it bug?

 

[T. D. W.]

I am here, proud to announce that "Maybe" yet the possibility is really high
that negative Z will be available in iKB mode in KB3D v. 1.9.0!

 

[Malhorne]

Cool

 

[T. D. W.]

And, this one is, somehow for chobi:

a new feature:
KB3D_HomingMissile >> automatically sets all nessecary features to their right values in order for a HomingMissile KB (it's not what he wanted, yet it's easier for users)

 

[chobibo]

What? why me lol?

 

[Malhorne]

DOn't know at all

 

[chobibo]

I don't remember requesting anything here? must be a misunderstanding then.

 

[T. D. W.]

here
not exactly the same idea of yours, but still xD

 

[chobibo]

Oh, forgot about that.

 

[T. D. W.]

Yes :3

 

[T. D. W.]

I finally managed to REMOVE the lag by Bounces, with like 30 instances now, FPS does not drop down the 60 FPS! (with a max of 65 FPS)

 

[chobibo]

cool.

 

[T. D. W.]

And i am going to change the way 3D movement (Z) is being calculated, yet for now, it is inaccurate... lol

Example: target height is 250
it reaches the 200 and starts dropping

 

[T. D. W.]

i now officialize that negative Z is fully functional in 1.9.0

 

[Vinz]

Good.

 

[chobibo]

What does that do?

 

[T. D. W.]

example:

Unit has 250 fly height
usually you were only able to apply positive Z (fly upward)
now, if iKB is enabled, negative Z is possible, so the unit will go down instead of up

it is also intelligent, so if the Z is lower than the unit's height, the Z will change to suit the height of the unit

in the example:
Unit height = 250
Z chosen = -500

Z taken by KB3D = -250

 

[chobibo]

Does that mean it can be target-able by ground melee units if the fly height is less than 100? I mean a fly height of 100 seems (aesthetically) target-able by ground melee units.

 

[T. D. W.]

(aesthetically), yes it can be

BUT, in the WE, there is a line in the OE, where you see in the unit: "Targeted as" it can be set to ground, flyer, ancient or whatsoever, so for a unit to attack flying units, it doesn't depend on the target unit's height

Thought this can be triggered (order the unit to stop when attacking a unit with high height, and he can target both air and ground target)