How to stun units without giving them buff?

[RobertMKD]

Is there an ability that can stun a unit without giving it the "Stunned" buff?

 

[HaaG]

I think not. But if u want to keep a unit stunned and don't want "stun" buff, you can trigger an ability to pause the unit, cuz u know, pause works the same way as a stun.

 

[RobertMKD]

Yea, that's what I'm using for now, but there are some abilities in my map that move units, and paused units cannot be moved.

 

[Nordmar]

i had this problem with other abilities. I think it doesn't work when you create a new buff but if you use the original buff and remove the effect there, it shoud work

 

[RobertMKD]

Wait, paused units do move, haha, I just had a bug with my ability xD okay nvm

 

[Wietlol]

You can stun a unit without a buff with a dummy that casts Mass Teleport.
You could also do it with making the unit cast a Channel based spell with massive follow through time and disable other abilities... however... it will be interrupted by silences, triggered ordering, normal stuns, etc.

 

[kingkwong]

You can stun a unit without a buff with a dummy that casts Mass Teleport.
You could also do it with making the unit cast a Channel based spell with massive follow through time and disable other abilities... however... it will be interrupted by silences, triggered ordering, normal stuns, etc.

Can you explain the mass teleport method please.

 

[Wietlol]

Create a dummy, cast Mass Teleport on target.
Make sure it has infinite casting time (the mass teleport exclusive one) and hide all visuals.

 

[Acutesharpness]

Pause unit works as it says, it stops all damage over time ability from working, status effects to persist thus it works exactly like time stop (faceless void from the old dota, but now that was fixed so). Another way is to spam move unit instantly at about 50 times a second, moving the caster at the same location they would have been, the problem for this is that they will jerk, try to attack targets but appear to stand still, to fix that you have to up the fps to about 100 to solve but you sacrifice performance power

 

[Wietlol]

Even a 0.01s interval will not stop you from everything.
You will need something that actually stops the unit.

 

[Acutesharpness]

o ya mass teleport not a bad idea at all

 

[Wietlol]

The cons are that you need one dummy per stun... or at least per unit if you do it properly.
Also, you probably want to have the dummy units be placed in a location where you will never look... it is extremely hard to hide the aura special effect of Mass Teleport... so hard that you wont understand how to do it :/

 

[RobertMKD]

Wait, can't you just remove the effect the mass teleport creates?

Pause works perfectly for me, except for the disabling of other abilities thing, and just like destiny.kinght, it actually stops the time for a unit....
I need to stun the unit without the buff and the "spiral" effect over the head... (you can just change it, but not remove it, or im wrong?), but still be able to remove the buff so I can "wake" the unit up,..... is that even possible or I'm asking too much? xD

 

[Wietlol]

Not entirely.
Unless I have been missing something.

You can remove the special effect above the unit, but you cannot remove the buff from War Stomp, Storm Bolt/Firebolt, etc.
I dont really understand what you mean with "wake the unit up".

 

[RobertMKD]

"wake" them up = remove the buff from the stunned unit, so it's not stunned anymore. But I doubt that's possible if I remove the buff somehow.

 

[Wietlol]

You can remove the buff by triggers.
You have a GUI action for that and can do it in JASS with UnitRemoveAbility(u, 'Buff')

 

[Bribe]

IcemanBo's SuspendUnit does this without a buff and without needing any dummy units.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/jass-resources-412/snippet-suspendunit-266681/

It's the perfect solution for most maps.

 

[RobertMKD]

Yes, I know that, but you can't end a stun if it doesn't have a buff right?

 

[Wietlol]

You can end the stun depending on how you added it.
With stunning abilities, you remove the stun by removing the buff (you cannot remove the buff while still stunning).
With Mass Teleport, you can stop the stun by removing the dummy unit or ordering it to stop.
With other stuff, like PauseUnit, you stop it by calling PauseUnit(u, false) or something like that. Same with UnitSuspend.

@Bribe, will that also work if the unit is silenced, stunned, issued orders via triggers, moves instantly and stuff like that, etc?

 

[Bribe]

You just call SuspendUnit(unit, false) to remove the stun.

@Wietlol, I haven't tested it if the unit is silenced, but the order string is Defend so it may still work. I'll test it tonight.