HoW BETA Version 3.3.0a

[Titania]

Oh and if you can change the chat system,it will be nice,triggers or jass don't take up alot of memories so its better to use them instead of imported models of spell,could use a better loading screen ^^

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

Why should we change the chat system, custom chat systems is slow and not better than the original chat system.

Do you really know what you're talking about? What has triggers and JASS to do with imported models? Nothing... About the loading screen we may update it, not change it. // Flood

 

[Luorax]

Hi.

I just found this map, when i will have enough time, then i will test it

But some suggestions, after the screenshots:
The first thing what i found, and what i very hate in EVERY map is the key binding and positioning. I saw the pics, and as i saw, the spells are just "thrown" to the interface, and they don't have a normal binding. I suggest you to fix the position of the icons, and create an unified key-bind for every character. For example in my map i use "Q, W, E, R, S, D" for every character. "Q-W-E-R" for the basic 4, "S" for the Focused bonus ability, which is the same for every hero, and "D" for the last, 5st ability.

And I saw the vodoo hunter's passive ability. If you use the Passive icon for the spell, then use the passive icon for the buff too. Looks a bit strange (in my opinion)

Some word about the bases:
I think the place of the 2 fountains looks a bit empty. Maybe you could try to fill them with something.
And the visibility modifiers: why? why did you add them? I can't say anymore about them, i think the map should be better without them.

Pros:
-Great terraining
-I like the starting multiboard (about the game modes)
-nice spells, icons and chars
-upgradeable towers, with custom abils

Ohh, a last thing: the character selection! very tired of the character selection system. Taverns... ok, it's quite hard to make something new and good at the same time, but every map uses taverns... it's very boring. (haha, it was easy to make the character selection of my map: it's a mortal kombat based "arena/rpg/wtf" map, so i made the original mks' character selection screen )

Btw the map looks good, as i said, when i have enough time, then i will try it in-game

(ooh, and sorry my english, i'm hungarian, and beginner in english (i choose german, when i was able to learn english....)

 

[lolreported]

Hello Luorax

First of all, your english is understand able and that's good, so don't complain your english.

Anyway, now to your "map"-comment. First of all, I've already told people that the screenshots are extremely outdated and we will add more updated ones when we've got time. So, the spells DO have hotkeys and positions ordered by: "Q, W, E, R" and special abilities are assigned to "T". Even the items in the shops have hotkeys to their position:
Q, W, E, R
A, S, D, F
Z, X, C, V

so this is already fixed

About the fountain I've already remaded the terrain there, play the map and you'll see

I've planned to make something about the hero selection system, something like a full graphical interface (or something else) to it, but I won't do that yet, in the future maybe.

Do try it in-game and then post a full review if you have time, it would be greatly appreciated! +rep

 

[random.guy27]

Hi there. just want to insights...

First is this. Old News is Old News

It's already taken... Ouch.
Well, because that model greatly complements his theme.

How about the visual changes for the items?

I specifically picked those items because
• It either has an imported icon and there are better icons in-game or;
• It has a bad icon and there are better icons in-game.

And also that they have weird, unsuitable names, that's why I also changed their names.

Second. Regarding Towers. Again, Old News is Old News

I definitely think that you should lower their attack and armor.
Why?
Numbers are too high and you already have many buffs for your towers.
You already have an attack damage-buff, an attack speed-buff, an armor-buff, and some more for your towers.
Due to the fact that you could give them different buffs, don't you think lowering their numbers balances them?
Not by much, more like...
1st tower - 100-125 damage; 15 armor
2nd tower - 125-150 damage; 18 armor
3rd tower - 150-175 damage; 21 armor
4th/Base towers - 175-200 damage; 24 armor

Third, the Crazy Furbolg.and Rejected Angel

For Crazy Furbolg
Since the last one I suggested was a bit of a fail, I'll make up for it.
Why not use either one of these models?

They fit the color-scheme of the outcast, which is purple/violet, and they corrupt enough to be a part of the Corrupted

- Second, decrease his attack damage to 28-38 damage(Chaos) Why? With his AS-buff and Critical Strike, he could at least have a low attack damage to balance things out.

- Then we have his new skill set

Troll Rage (ACTIVE)
- Increase attack speed by 40%, but increase damage taken by 10%
- Last for 15 seconds
- Mana Cost: 50
- Cooldown: 20 seconds

Critical Strike (PASSIVE)
- Gives a 20% chance to deal 1.5 times your normal damage

For Rejected Angel

Just some rebalance & changes

- First, increase his attack damage to 38-48 damage(Chaos). Why? All of his skills rely on being a support. Giving him a higher attack damage would at least help for him to be better at combat.

Healing Wave (Active)
- Calls forth a wave of energy that heals the targets HP for 200, and bounces to nearby allied units. Each bounce heals 10% less. Does a maximum of 5 bounces.
- Mana Cost: 90
- Cooldown: 15 seconds
- When will it be used: When a nearby allied unit's current HP is below 30% of its Max HP.

Devotion Aura (PASSIVE/AURA)
- Gives 3 additional armor to nearby friendly units.
- Area of Effect is 700

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

Hi, we will change some stuff from your item suggestion, you'll see in the upcoming patches.

I will not change the towers yet.

I may change some things about crazy furbolg (including model) and rebalance rejected angel a little.

 

[lolreported]

Patch 2.0.0a is under development. This patch is the 2nd biggest patch we've ever made.

Edit (2010-09-21): Okey, the patch is done. I don't really know if it's stable. That's why I hope as many can post issues here from this patch and we'll fix it right away. It's pretty hard to find everything on my own. The new version is now uploaded!

Patch 2.0.0a

BETA Version 2.0.0a

HoW Patch 2.0.0a (Thanks to random.guy27)


Heroes
Nerubian
> Fixed a manacost issue with Mystic Net.
> Fixed an issue with Mystic Net.
> Changed the hitpoints of the Baby Minions from Parasite from 125 to 175.
> Changed the damage of Rise of a Breed from 50/80/110 to 25/45/65.

Pain
> Changed start-strength from 19 to 18.
> Changed strength per level from 2 to 1.6.
> Changed the cooldown of The Pains from 120 to 155 seconds.
> Changed the cooldown of Shinra Tensie from 23 to 24 seconds.
> The Pains Mana Disturber will now burn 14/18/24 instead of 24.
> Pains Creature's "split ability upon death" will now give the new units an expiration timer of 25 seconds.

Murloc of the Damned
> Changed the armor bonus from Water Protection from 150 to 75.
> Changed the damage of Ancient Wave from 200/300/400/550/600 to 150/250/350/500/600.

Unknown Shadow
> Changed the damage radius from 350 AoE to 400 AoE.
> Changed the "life-steal"% of Shadowbolt from 5% to 16%.

Pandaren
> Fixed an issue with Pandaren Rush.
> Changed the damage of Pandaren Rush from 75/120/145/170/200 to 60/90/125/170/200.

Cursed Demon
> Fixed an issue with Cursed Darkness.

Cursed Demon
> Fixed an icon issue.


New Heroes
> Re-maked Assassin (100%)


Items
> Renamed Sobus to "Envenomed Spear" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Sword of Critical Wounds to "Deep Wound Claws" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Weapon of Luck to "Fiend Claws" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Arsktarkta to "Claws of the Forsaken" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed God's Fury to "Hammer of Discharge" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Uhmotra to "Saevio".

> New item: Soul Stealer

Demonic Fade Boots
> Fixed an issue that you wouln't get a temporarily movementspeed bonus.


Bugs & Gameplay
The Experience System
> Updated the experience-system to work better.
> You'll now gain 25exp * (dying)herolvl experience when an enemy hero dies, before it was 22exp * (dying)herolvl.

The Hero Selection System
> All Heroes of the Ancient War (hero seller buildings) now contain 12 heroes and not 11.
> All heroes in the "buy-menu" is now a lot more sorted.
> When a player picks a new hero that hero will automatically be selected for the player when picked.

Special Lane Mobs (Crazy Troll and Rejected Angel)
> Changed Crazy Furbolg into a Crazy Troll. Crazy Troll has 750 hitpoints, 36 base damage, 2 armor (Large) and is a ranged

unit.
> Crazy Troll's temporarily attackspeed bonus ability (Crazy Troll) will now give the unit 70% increased attackspeed instead

of 75%.
> Renamed Crazy Troll's "Furbolg Aura" to "Troll Aura". (Attackspeed aura).

> The Rejected Angel will now have 850 hitpoints and 26 base damage, 4 armor (Large).
> Changed the amount of bounces of the Healing Wave ability from 4 to 5.
> Changed the chance for the Rejected Angel to do a Critical Strike from 35% to 42%.
> Changed the multiple damage of the Rejected Angel's Critical Strike from 3x to 2.5x.

Other
> Re-made the start gold and fixed issues with it. Maximum start gold is now 3750 (1 player) and divided of total players in

the team.
> The gate at the Outcasts can no longer be killed.
> Removed the sightvision of the bases.
> Minor terrain changes.
> The Total Control feature will no longer show when an allied hero level up.

 

[VampireofBlood]

i think this is really well made, but still nothing original.
Everyone seems to come up with a new AoS, what is horribly boring.

 

[lolreported]

Thanks. Well, I think it's original, there is a couple of special things for this map. Anyway, when we start to create the "Survival Mode" for this AoS, it must be original

Yeah, it may be a couple of AoS's out here now, new or old. Anyway, there's still other maps if you don't like them

Any comments of issues, feedback or anything?

 

[Icedrake]

Just wondering, but are all of those horrible grammar errors of the past fixed?

 

[lolreported]

A lot of them, yes, but it may be some of them left. We don't really have anyone that checks our grammar, so that progress is slow. We're currently trying to release all pre-made heroes.

 

[zadelim]

LOL! I didn't notice that is my skin on show! Haha I gonna try it! XD

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

LOL! I didn't notice that is my skin on show! Haha I gonna try it! XD

Hi, if you mean that tauren skin i don't think you can try him yet : /.
Because he's not balanced yet so you can't chose him in the hero tavern but that hero is gonna be awesome just like your skin.
It gonna be Legen....wait for it....dary!!

 

[random.guy27]

I've seen the new patch and I would like to give some things.

For Assassin.

• The Mana Cost of her spells are outrageously high!
The thing is, the reason why I gave her spells low mana costs is because of her poor INT and INT gain, but to the point that she still can't spam them until mid-late to late game.
• Her Starting STR and STR gain is way too low! 16 + 1.2 STR is very bad for that fragile melee hero. Increase her STR gain to at least 1.8 so she won't be a liability to the team.

For Crazy Troll and Rejected Angel

- Make him Melee so that it will be balanced between him and the Rejected Angel

- Crazy Troll's attk speed bonus is still high. 50% will balance it out.

- His Aura makes things redundant. You already have a self-buff that buffs your AS, and then you have an AS Aura? At least change it to this...

Critical Strike (PASSIVE)
- Gives a 25% chance to deal 2 times your normal damage

With your self-buff, you could proc the Critical Strike with no problem, but with this addition, you'll change the Rejected Angel's misplaced skill, his Critical Strike.

For Rejected Angel

Since he IS a support creep and you can't take that fact away unless you change him, this will be a better for him.

Devotion Aura (PASSIVE/AURA)
- Gives 2 additional armor to nearby friendly units.
- Area of Effect is 600
- Stacks with other armor-giving aura

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

Changes has been made to the assassin, i hope ur gonna like it.
I nerfed mana cost greatly and added some more str to her.

I have also made some changes about Crazy troll and Rejected angel and this is gonna be the last balance update with them for some time now.

Read about it in the new upcoming patch that i hope won't take too long to release

 

[zadelim]

Hi, if you mean that tauren skin i don't think you can try him yet : /.
Because he's not balanced yet so you can't chose him in the hero tavern but that hero is gonna be awesome just like your skin.
It gonna be Legen....wait for it....dary!!

Haha!! Nevermind I will wait

 

[random.guy27]

And I've made a new Hero Remake suggestion...

Enemore, the Death Archer

Some Overview...

Now, she is an AGILITY Hero that relies on her physical attacks but is still versatile.

Her skills:
• Anubis Shot - A single-target nuke with a slow. Also, when your target dies, it explodes and deal AoE damage.
- "Shoot a deadly arrow that damages the target and injects an unknown enchantment. If the target dies within the duration, it explodes from the inside out, dealing damage in an area."

• Untamed Thirst - A Passive skill that increases your attack damage every time a nearby enemy dies.
- "Enemore thirsts for the death of her enemies. Every time a nearby enemy unit dies, her attack damage increase. Stacks indefinitely. Last for 6 seconds"

• Marksmanship - A Passive skill that gives you a chance to completely ignore your target's armor. Procs on attack.
- "Being a skilled archer, her accuracy is phenomenal. Gives a chance to completely ignore your target's armor."

• Shadow of Despair - This is the only skill that remains. I did some rebalancing and tweaking, though like when you teleport to the shadow, you will replace it, meaning it will disappear once you have teleported.
- Another is the part where I removed the -armor part because of her new skill "Marksmanship"
- But don't be discouraged. I did the necessary things for this skill to be balanced.
- "The Death Archer creates an immobile shadow at any targeted location, that she could replace at any time. Once she has teleported and replaced the shadow, apply "Fear" to all nearby enemy units, making them unable to attack & cast spells and losing control over it. Shadows lasts indefinitely. Only, at most, 2 Shadows could be active at a time."

To know more about her, Click here to go to My blog

For Dark Spirit and Plague Reverant

These will be better Icons for them.

Dark Spirit

It actually identifies him, unlike his current icon.

Plague Reverant

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Like what I said before, the color of the current Icon is pretty "clean" for the Plague Reverant and it is actually the wrong icon.

Regarding Forbidden Secret's "Increase Damage" and "Increase Armor"

I think it's much too cheap.
Somebody could just purchase these upgrades easily for the creeps to do all the work as they farm, which is abusing its power.

My suggestion is...
• Increase Damage - 1000 Gold
• Increase Armor - 850 Gold

In creeps, +2 Damage is much more reliable than +1 Armor so "Increase Damage" is more expensive than "Increase Armor"

Formula for Starting HP and Mana

Why not use these formulas for getting every Heroes Starting HP and Mana so that they will be synchronized.

For Starting HP:

Starting HP = 120 + (Starting STR * 20)

• Why do you need to add it to 120?
- Because once your STR has been reduced to 0, (Which is possible if there is a skill in-game that could do that) your HP will also be 0. With this, you will still be left with 120 HP.
• Why multiply the starting STR by 20?
- Because in this game/map, 1 STR = 20 HP. Use Logic.

For Starting Mana:

Starting Mana = 20 + (Starting INT * 15)

OR

Starting Mana = (Starting INT * 15)

• Why do you need to add it to only 30? (OPTION 1)
- Same reason as above. But Mana isn't really that much needed unlike HP because, No HP = Dead ; No Mana = Not Dead. That why you only need to add it by 20, and the reason why I added another option.
• Why multiply the starting INT by 15?
- Same Reason as above

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

Im gonna take a moment and think about this

 

[random.guy27]

^ Ok.

EDITED. Now I have 2 Hero Remakes for you.

BTW, I have another Hero Remake for you.
I have to post it here because I only post suggestions in my blog which have both the proper Icon and Model.
Since I don't have the model, I'd rather post it here.

[REMAKE] Osmetica, the Mage of Regret =>>> Osmetica, the Iron Maiden

Before, she was an AGI-Battle Maiden, but now, she's an INT Caster whose purpose is to torment the enemies slowly and for a duration of time, that why her (*new) Title is the "Iron Maiden"

Osmetica, the Iron Maiden

Osmetica

Strength - 19 + 1.9
Agility - 16 + 1.5
Intelligence - 20 + 2.75

Learns Soul Torment, Essence Rip, Spirit Bond and Soul Eclipse

Attack range of 500
Movement speed of 300

HERO INFORMATION

Osmetica, the Iron Maiden

Starting Hitpoints: 500
Starting Mana: 300
Starting Damage: 40 - 44
Starting Armor: 2

HERO SKILLS

Soul Torment

Summon a malicious force at a targeted area that tortures not only the enemies' physical being, but their souls as well. All enemy units within the vicinity will take increasing damage over time. Lasts for 5 seconds.

Level 1 - Initially deals 10 damage. Increase damage dealt by 10 with each passing second.
Level 2 - Initially deals 20 damage. Increase damage dealt by 10 with each passing second.
Level 3 - Initially deals 30 damage. Increase damage dealt by 10 with each passing second.
Level 4 - Initially deals 40 damage. Increase damage dealt by 10 with each passing second.
Level 5 - Initially deals 50 damage. Increase damage dealt by 10 with each passing second.

In Depth Explanation
• Damage type: Magical
• Casting Range is 600
• Area of Effect is 225

Cooldown: 14 sec
Mana Cost: 110/130/150/170/190

Got the Icon Here

Essence Rip

Cast a spell that slowly rips the bond between the physical and magical essences of an enemy. Deals damage over time for 3 seconds. After the said duration, the bond between the physical and magical essences of the enemy is completely rip, drastically slowing its movement speed and all nearby enemy units for 3 seconds.

Level 1 - Deals 30 damage per second. After the said duration, slow the targets movement speed and all nearby enemy units by 30%.
Level 2 - Deals 45 damage per second. After the said duration, slow the targets movement speed and all nearby enemy units by 35%.
Level 3 - Deals 60 damage per second. After the said duration, slow the targets movement speed and all nearby enemy units by 40%.
Level 4 - Deals 75 damage per second. After the said duration, slow the targets movement speed and all nearby enemy units by 45%.
Level 5 - Deals 90 damage per second. After the said duration, slow the targets movement speed and all nearby enemy units by 50%.

In Depth Explanation
• Damage type: Magical
• Casting Range is 700
• Area of Effect (*Slow) is 175

Cooldown: 18/17/16/15/14 sec
Mana Cost: 100/115/130/145/160

Spirit Bond

Bonds several enemy units together, causing 15% of the damage dealt to any of them to be partially felt by the others. Last for 20 seconds.

Level 1 - Bonds 2 units together
Level 2 - Bonds 3 units together
Level 3 - Bonds 4 units together
Level 4 - Bonds 5 units together
Level 5 - Bonds 6 units together

In Depth Explanation
• Damage type: HP removal
• Casting Range is 600
• Finding AoE is 575

Cooldown: 30 sec
Mana Cost: 130

Soul Eclipse

The Iron Maiden chants a forbidden spell that discloses minds of all enemy heroes. For the duration, all enemy heroes are unable to attack, lose all allied vision and have their sight range reduced to 400.

Level 1 - Last for 4 seconds
Level 2 - Last for 5 seconds
Level 3 - Last for 6 seconds

In Depth Explanation
• Area of Effect is Global

Cooldown: 150/135/120 sec
Mana Cost: 250/350/450

[REMAKE] Time King =>>> Aetas, the Eternal King

To tell you honestly, I've already seen his skills since I have recently used the cheat to make those unavailable Heroes become available.
Even though he is not released yet, I have already made a Hero Remake for him, because I couldn't see his theme, which is Time & Space.
And I've changed his Title from Time King =>>> Eternal King because I think it sounds more epic.

Small Fact. His new name, Aetas, is actually a Latin word meaning time

A little overview

Aetas

Strength - 16 + 1.8
Agility - 21 + 2.8
Intelligence - 15 + 1.5

Learns Time Vault, Blades of Time, Sphere of Age and Chronofield

Attack range of 100
Movement speed of 310

Affiliation: -
Role: DPS-Carry
Theme: Time & Space

Aetas, the Eternal King

Starting Hitpoints: 440
Starting Mana: 225
Starting Damage: 47-55
Starting Armor: 3

To know more about him, Click here to go to My blog

And For the Boots:

Flash Step

This is where I got the icon
- The current icon for "Flash Step" is too blurry, to the point that I could even distinguish if those are boots or not. Actually it's very bad! Blurry icon, wrong borders, etc...
- Where in the world could you get that "Key of Time Jump" thing? A recipe would be better for like 1350 Gold, instead of getting an item that I couldn't find.

Sangera

This is where I got the icon
- Also, change the name to Tempest Boots

Demonic Fade Boots

- Change the recipe from Boots of Speed + Claws of Attack + War Axe + Recipe TO Boots of Speed + 2x War Axe (No Recipe)
- Lower the cooldown of "Fade" from 30 seconds to 10 seconds
- There is a problem regarding "Fade". You should only make the bearer move through UNITS, not objects (like trees, cliffs, etc...) because that would create many problems and could cause many abuses.

And some Visual Change for Items: (Icon & Name)

• Corrupted Hand of Death

Orb of Corruption
OR

Orb of Death
- The current icon doesn't even look like an item. It is meant to be a Skill and not an item. Since the current one has 2 effects, just pick from the 2 icons above. Corruption? or Death?

• Saevio

Saevio
- Change the icon to this because the current one doesn't really scream "ITEM" it's more of a Skill.
- The Red-orange background of this icon and the fact that it uses an Axe is enough to portray "Rage"

• Orksi

Battle Staff
- If you try looking at the bonuses the "Orksi" gives, I'd say it's meant for a "Battle Mage" that why I renamed it to "Battle Staff" and gave it a more appropriate icon.

• Light

Voodoo Staff
- Having the ability to "Hex" someone doesn't actually scream "Light". It should scream "Voodoo". That's why I changed it's name to "Voodoo Staff" and gave it an appropriate icon.

• Life Stone

Pendant of Energy
- This is the one from the Melee maps, and it suits more than the current icon

• Mana Stone

Pendant of Mana
- This is the one from the Melee maps, and it suits more than the current icon

• Magical Helm of an Old Prince

Helm of Valor
- First, Name is too long
- Second, its name didn't complement what it gives
- With my suggested icon and name, it complements what it gives.

• Sormeza

Helm of Discord
- I can't even understand the current icon. This will be a better icon and name for it.

• Death Wish

Death Wish
- Again, the current icon uses an icon that is meant for a skill, meaning inappropriate.

• Hood of the Fel Stalker

Anti-Magic Cloak
- Sorry for the name but you have to agree on me that the icon is better than the current one, right?

• The Cleanser

The Cleanser
- This one is more suiting than the current one. The current one is actually meant for a skill, not an item..

I'm 90% sure that all of the images are in-game, meaning no unnecessary MSI.

And For the some recipes:

You forgot to change the necessary items you need for the recipe. Remember, many items have been renamed.
For example.
Claws of the Forsaken still needs "Weapon of Luck", which was already renamed to Fiend Claws.

And For Attacks:

You could attack your allies(Creeps or Structures) even when in full health, meaning, you could attack them anytime as if they were your enemies.
You should only make them targetable by your attacks when their HP is lower than 15% or 20% (This is excluding allied Heroes)

Why?

Because being able to attack your allies any time you want could lead to abuses.
And the reason why I said that you should only make your allies targetable when their HP is lower than 15% or 20%, is so that you could deny your Creeps/Towers easily.

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

You rly like to get us alot to think about

but i like most of ur ideas so im gonna do some changes, feel free to read about it in the new patch when we release it

 

[lolreported]

You could attack your allies(Creeps or Structures) even when in full health, meaning, you could attack them anytime as if they were your enemies.
You should only make them targetable by your attacks when their HP is lower than 15% or 20% (This is excluding allied Heroes)

Why?

Because being able to attack your allies any time you want could lead to abuses.
And the reason why I said that you should only make your allies targetable when their HP is lower than 15% or 20%, is so that you could deny your Creeps/Towers easily.

You can't attack allied towers when they have more than 10% hitpoints left. Units though, can you kill anytime. Allied heroes are untargetable.

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Edit 1: Patch 2.1.0a is almost done. There's only a few more things to do. This patch will contain a lot of fixes and three new heroes.

New Heroes
Possessed Guardian
Ranger
Soldier of Narjz


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Edit 2: Patch 2.1.0a is now pretty much done. We only need to make some few testings to make sure everything works as it should. If it works fine, I'll upload the new version!

 

[zadelim]

Comment

I would suggest the recipes requirement items add the location to buy it. It could help players who new into the game more easier to find it. Some bugs report and balancing game stability. I think there will have more bugs haven't discover yet. I will try discover more and report to this map.

Item Suggestion Format

Nustronexia Gives: +20 All Stats +350 Hitpoints +250 Mana Points Freezing (Passive) Skill: Freezing - Provide cold effect on attack. Requirement: Book of Knowledge (Lost Soul) Golden Mantle (Magic Enchanter) Mighty Stone (Lost Soul) This recipe Orb effects does not stack.

Bugs/Balancing Items -Old Jewel of Wisdom automatic combine without recipe. -Uber Sheep cannot be combine. -Armor of Deflection does not effect on range attacks. -Mana Axe does not effect on neutral creeps. -Death Wish can deal damage to self or allied hereoes. Units -Feer "Copy Ultimate" ability has no effect on copying. -The Immortal summon unit's name not same with the description. Environment/Game -The weather changing made the game lag. -In duel, sometime the lightning barricade does not show on the place with 2 heroes battle. -The Orb should be at the river to make it easier to find.

 

[lolreported]

@zadelim,

Well, about your item "text" suggestion, I think we'll add it soon. We've already begun with some of them as you can see? So maybe in the next patch this will be added.

It's nice that someone finally help us finding bugs, it's very hard to find them for ourselves! I will take a look at everything you've found and see if I can fix some of them.

We may change the position of the orb, but then we'll have to find some good place in the water then. I am aware that the weather changing is causing a little lagg, I may remove it, but I thought it would be a sweet little feature to the map. Thanks for the comment, I hope to see some more bug notices in the future +rep


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Patch 2.1.0a is uploaded! Read the patchlog/changelog! || Credit-list has also been updated!

BETA Version 2.1.0a

HoW Patch 2.1.0a (Thanks to random.guy27)


Heroes
Dark Spirit
> Fixed a new icon.

Assassin
> Changed start-strength from 16 to 17.
> Changed strength per level from 1.2 to 1.55.
> Changed start-intelligence from 17 to 15.
> Decreased the mana-cost of all abilities.

Lightning Elemental
> Renamed "Thunder Storm" to "Thunderstorm".
> Thunderstorm will now slow all units being hit ON CAST by 35% for 5 seconds.

Pandaren
> Fixed an issue with Pandaren Rush.


New Heroes
> New hero: Possessed Guardian
> New hero: Ranger
> New hero: Soldier of Narjz


Items
> Fixed a lot of description texts with the items.

> Renamed Sangera to "Tempest Boots" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Corrupted Hand of Death to "Orb of Death" (Also changed icon).
> Renamed Orksi to "Battle Staff".
> Renamed Magical Helm of an Old Prince to "Helm of Valor".
> Changed the icon of Flash Step.
> Changed the icon of The Cleanser.

> New item: Soul Harvester


Bugs & Gameplay
Special Lane Mobs (Crazy Troll and Rejected Angel)
> Crazy Troll will now have the same stats as Rejected Angel (850HP, 4 armor, 28 base damage and 350MP)
> Changed the Crazy Troll ability name to Troll Rage.
> Troll Rage will now temporarily increase attackspeed by 50% instead of 70%.
> Crazy Troll is now melee instead of a ranged unit.

> Changed the cast range of the Rejected Angels Healing Wave from 700 to 400.
> Rejected Angel will no longer run back to the base when have cast Healing Wave.

Systems
> Created a new system (Knockback System), that all knockback abilities can use, instead of running a seperate knockback

trigger for itself. This will increase the map performance and reduce lagg. The map size will also be reduced.

Other
> Lane Mobs will now get +25 hitpoints every 20 minutes (maximum of +150).
> Minor fixes.

 

[zadelim]

Comment

Yes, I will discover more bugs and some improvement. I will make some heroes suggestion for you. This is the latest version bug I found

Suggestion Add Test Mode to game when it is single player. For support discover bug. Test Mode: Refresh Cooldown, Add Gold, Spawn Dummy Hero, Set Hero Current Level. Use refresh cooldown with Escape key. Commands: -gold [numbers], -spawndummy, -lvl [numbers] HoW BETA Version 2.1.0a Bugs/Balancing Items -Soul Harvester didn't have the ability -The Head of Naga Vimx effects is too high it will make unbalance. Set it to 50%. Heroes -Soldier of Narjz had too much of passive skill and imbalance skill. -Ranger "Frost Trap" effects make some lag when explode. -Make Explosive Arrow smaller collision. Just nearby the enemies leaving an area about 1/2 units will explode. Making it easier and not realistic on hitting. -Possessed Guardian "Hellscream". How many percent of current HP will increase the damage? -Note the "Soul Control" is usable on hero or not. Make it unusable on Ancient units. Like the Naga Vimx, it will make the item drop when in control. Units -The Outcasts have a Neutral Passive unit at outside of the middle 3rd tower neutral creep base. -Reduce Naga Vimx hitpoints to 35500.

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

Its rly awesome to have some1 to find bugs and stuff like that and as flood said, its rly hard to find all the bugs ourselfs.

im just going to say something about vimx, that i only created him mostly for fun, making him so damn strong that almost no1 can kill him.

and why i did that was because i want players to wonder why he is so strong, does he unlock something or drop some cool loot? and well yes that item he drops is rly unbalanced and i may change that to something else but this vimx power could be fun for some of the players

noxtru on the other hand is easier and will probably get killed in some 3vs3 or 5vs5 games

 

[lolreported]

@zadelim, I'll just make a quick comment here about your "test mode", I'm in a hurry. When you play single player you can use three commands:

-lvlup x (Level up to level x)
-getgold x (Get x gold)
-wtf (No cooldown or manacost)

Those commands are enough for me testing. Also, you can use the -repick command unlimited times while playing single player. I also use the -vdon feature, that will view damage done, in floating texts. That allow me to check if the spell deal any damage and how much for balance checks.

Anyway, thanks for the comment

 

[Adiktuz]

looks good... downloading...

I think its inevitable that people will compare this to DotA or any other AoS since it is an AoS type map... it always happens to maps that belong to the same genre especially in ORPGs and AoS...

 

[zadelim]

Soldier of Narjz Suggestion Hero Name: Najar'rak Name: Guardian of Narjz Start Strength: 21 + 2.7 Start Agility: 15 + 1.6 Start Intelligent: 11 + 1.2 Learn Blood Strike, Darkness Sacrifice, Freeze, Shadow Heart of Narjz. 1st Ability Blood Strike Najar'rak will swing his axe with blood to strike the enemy. It will deals initial damage and curse the enemy to damage by percent of it's current hitpoints. Last 14 seconds. Level 1 - 95 damage, 0.25% hp/sec Level 2 - 125 damage, 0.35% hp/sec Level 3 - 155 damage, 0.45% hp/sec Level 4 - 185 damage, 0.55% hp/sec Level 5 - 215 damage, 0.65% hp/sec Duration: 14 seconds Cooldown: 20 seconds 2nd Ability Darkness Sacrifice Najar'rak sacrifice his life for the darkness energy. It will deal damage to nearby enemies with his life and reduce their armor. Last 20 seconds. Level 1 - 2% of hitpoints, 75 damage, -3 armor Level 2 - 3% of hitpoints, 100 damage, -4 armor Level 3 - 4% of hitpoints, 125 damage, -5 armor Level 4 - 5% of hitpoints, 150 damage, -6 armor Level 5 - 6% of hitpoints, 175 damage, -7 armor Duration: 20 seconds Cooldown: 30/27/24/21 seconds 3rd Ability Freeze (Passive) It has 19% chance to freezing the enemy for 2 seconds. After unfreeze, slowing their movement speed and deal damage to nearby enemies. Last 4 seconds. Level 1 - 25 damage, 15% movement speed. Level 2 - 35 damage, 20% movement speed. Level 3 - 45 damage, 25% movement speed. Level 4 - 55 damage, 30% movement speed. Level 5 - 65 damage, 35% movement speed. Duration: 4 seconds Cooldown: 2 seconds Ultimate Ability Shadow Heart of Narjz (Passive) When Najar'rak has been killed by enemies, revive Najar'rak in 3 seconds with percent of his Max Hitpoints and it will increase his damage in 30 seconds. Before Najar'rak revive, it will summon Narjz with Chaos damage to fight against enemies in 30 seconds. When Narjz died or killed, it will make a explosion that deal 300 damage to nearby enemies. Level 1 - 55 damage, 60% of Max Hitpoints. Narjz has 1200 Hitpoints, 78-90 Chaos damage. Level 2 - 80 damage, 80% of Max Hitpoints. Narjz has 1550 Hitpoints, 85-97 Chaos damage. Level 3 - 105 damage, 100% of Max Hitpoints. Narjz has 1700 Hitpoints, 92-114 Chaos damage. Duration: 30 seconds Cooldown: 250/180/110 seconds. Comment I think this will suitable for it. In your newly release version is too imbalance and no skill to cast and the skill arrangement problem. The Freeze's icon is from Heroes of Newerth. It should be credits to them. Skill Guides 1st ability can be active damage skill and it will less passive skill in this position. 2nd ability can be supporting skill or dealing a small amount of damage. 3rd ability can be passive or supporting skill. Ultimate can be any skill that is suitable on the hero type.

Bugs/Balancing Heroes -Dragon "Wave of Fire" sometime it will separate the fire in to 2 parts. -Death Dragon "Ghost Evasion" Level 3 transparency is nearly no visible. Make it show more a bit. -Corrupted Ent "Root" make it as range attack. 500 range. -Voodoo Hunter "Improved Glaive Attack" note the damage percent that bounce to another units. -Shadow Walker second abilities has not a proper hotkey. -Demon Lord have 2 abilities is same hotkey. -An Intelligent Dwarf Ultimate has not proper hotkey when learning ability. -An Intelligent Dwarf "It's Hammer Time" is more suitable to Ultimate ability. -Dark Spirit "Vengeance Unleash" not working in game. -Druid "Bear Form" does not have proper hotkey when learning ability. -King Guard "Spikes of Terror" the area of effect is too big. -King Guard "Spike Shell" does not have a buff when using. -King Guard and Lord of Death has the same ultimate ability. -Rearrange all skill like the skill guide I given you. -A lot of heroes skill description need to improve some mistake word. Units -The creeps that both side was spawned. The hero nearby the creeps it does not automatic attack the hero. Overall -Change the Strenght to Strength. -Sometime the weather changing will make the game crash when play for too long. Items -Tempest Boot can be target on heroes. Make it unable to target heroes.

 

[lolreported]

Thanks again! It's sweet that you find all those things to help us make the map better. The Soldier of Narjz suggestion will Drunken_Rider take a look at. Other than that I'll fix all those errors you've found! So patch 2.2.0a will contain a lot of fixes.

 

[zadelim]

Thanks again! It's sweet that you find all those things to help us make the map better. The Soldier of Narjz suggestion will Drunken_Rider take a look at. Other than that I'll fix all those errors you've found! So patch 2.2.0a will contain a lot of fixes.

I must do, because my skin on show. I will do many as I can.

 

[lolreported]

Patch 2.2.0a is under development.

 

[zadelim]

@Flood
Update the Soldier of Narjz icon to this
Able to download. Just click on icon to download.

 

[random.guy27]

I still have concerns regarding Demonic Fade Boots and Flash Step.

Demonic Fade Boots

- Change the recipe from Boots of Speed + Claws of Attack + War Axe + Recipe TO Boots of Speed + 2x War Axe (No Recipe)
- Lower the cooldown of "Fade" from 30 seconds to 10 seconds
- There is a problem regarding "Fade". You should only make the bearer move through UNITS, not objects (like trees, cliffs, etc...) because that would create many problems and could cause many abuses.

Flash Step

The Icon hasn't been changed in-game, yet in the Changelog, it says that you already changed it.

Some Visual Change for Heroes:

• Lord of Death

=>

Plague Revenant

• Pandaren

Pandaren Brewmaster

• Druid

Druid of the Claw

• Giant Sea Turtle

Guardian of the Depths

• Magic Twister

Demonic Warlock

• Crazy Scienceman

Mad Scientist

]

And some Visual Change for Items: (Icon & Name)

• Saevio

Saevio
- Change the icon to this because the current one doesn't really scream "ITEM" it's more of a Skill.
- The Red-orange background of this icon and the fact that it uses an Axe is enough to portray "Rage"
- And come on! It's recipe needs an Axe. Doesn't this make more sense?

• Light

Voodoo Staff
- "Light" doesn't actually have the ability to "Hex" someone. It makes no sense. That's why I changed it's name to "Voodoo Staff" and gave it an appropriate icon.

• Dark

Silencer
- "Dark" may not be the proper word to describe the item. That's why I changed it's name to "Silencer" and gave it an appropriate icon.

• Life Stone

Pendant of Health
- This is the one from the Melee maps, and it suits more than the current icon

• Mana Stone

Pendant of Mana
- This is the one from the Melee maps, and it suits more than the current icon

• Sormeza

Sormeza
- I can't even understand the current icon. This will be a better icon

• Death Wish

Death Wish
- Again, the current icon uses an icon that is meant for a skill, meaning inappropriate.
- And this icon looks like a staff that is able to shoot some deadly magic

• Hood of the Fel Stalker

Cloak of the Wanderer
- What could I say?...

I hope you don't forget about my Hero Remakes & Suggestions and Other Suggestions.
If there's something wrong regarding them, just tell me

.

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

We are working on the Fade bugg on those demonic boots and i don't know why that flash step boots icon aint changed, flood might have missed that.

Im not doing any more icon changes atm but i might change a name or two on the heroes you suggested.

 

[lolreported]

@zadelim, sweet, I'll add that icon right away

@random.guy27, I must have missed to change the icon, I'll fix that now. I'll also see what I can do about the fade ability.

And of course we don't forget about your hero remakes and suggestions, but as we've said, we won't add any NEW heroes before all the current ones is done. Patch 2.2.0a will contain a lot of fixes and a new hero, this version may be released today or tomorrow.

 

[Chaos lord]

I've found a major bug recently. The voodoo guy, when he has 2 or more orb effects in his inventory, and who got the ultimate(glavie throw) doesn't attack. He's replaying animation and after 2 or 3 secs launches a single shot. You should fix that 1

 

[random.guy27]

I've found a major bug recently. The voodoo guy, when he has 2 or more orb effects in his inventory, and who got the ultimate(glavie throw) doesn't attack. He's replaying animation and after 2 or 3 secs launches a single shot. You should fix that 1

I think this is like Luna's "Moon Glaives" orb malfunctions (From DotA) since they are similar abilities.
Most orb effects (Expect Lifesteal) will make the attack of any Hero who has "Moon Glaives" for an ability, malfunction.

Though I'm not sure if this could be resolved.
We'll let Flood and drunken_rider answer that question.

 

[zadelim]

I've found a major bug recently. The voodoo guy, when he has 2 or more orb effects in his inventory, and who got the ultimate(glavie throw) doesn't attack. He's replaying animation and after 2 or 3 secs launches a single shot. You should fix that 1

Comment OK, this bug is in global Warcraft III. Who has the bouncing attack cannot have 2 orbs effect in one time. That will cause his attack losing stability and malfunction it. I could say, make a noticeable message on the Ultimate ability "Improved Glaive Throw" The only effective bouncing attack is life steal effect. So the notice is "Only can stack with lifesteal effect. Others will cause the attack malfunction."

 

[lolreported]

@All,
Yes, I'm aware of the problem with the bounce ability. It will malfunction with other orb effects, I'm not 100% sure if it will malfunction with lifesteal as random.guy27 said. I will do as zadelim said, add a notice. Thanks.

Patch 2.2.0a is almost finished. Everything necessary is done and now I need to get in contact with Drunken_Rider and ask if anything more shall be fixed. When this is done, the patch will be released.

As said, this patch contain one new hero, Rider [Xrath] and a lot of fixes.

New hero: Rider [Xrath]

Strength: 17 (+2)
Agility: 20 (+2.2)
Intelligence: 16 (+1.4)
Range: Melee

Abilities:

Xrath is able to summon two spirit wolves to aid him in battle for 30 seconds. The wolves are permanent invisible while not attacking and they have the critical strike ability. The damage of the wolves is increased per level.

Allow Xrath and his wolf to unleash a battle roar, increasing all nearby friendly units attack damage by 38%.

Xrath's hammer can protect him from an incoming spell.

Xrath can throw a powerful hammer at a target enemy unit. When the hammer hits the unit, it will take damage and be stunned. All nearby enemy units of the unit being hit will also be stunned.

Open!

HoW Patch 2.2.0a (Thanks to zadelim & random.guy27)


Heroes
Shadow Walker
> Fixed a hotkey issue with Curse of Shadow.

Demon Lord
> Changed the ability name for Command Aura to "Demon Strength".
> Fixed a hotkey issue with Demon Strength.
> Changed icon of Demon Strength.

An Intelligent Dwarf
> Fixed a hotkey issue with Yellow Flash.

Druid
> Fixed a hotkey issue with Bear Form.

Dragon
> Hopefully fixed an issue with Wave of Fire.

Ranger
> Decreased the collision of the Explosive Shot arrow.
> Decreased the Area of Effect of the explosion from Explosive Shot from 250 to 180.
> Decreased the pushback speed a little of the Explosive Shot.
> Changed the explosion effect of Explosive Shot.
> Changed the damage bonus % of Bow Mastery from 10/18/26/34/42% to 10/16/22/28/34%.

Voodoo Hunter
> Fixed the description text with Improved Glaive Attack.

Possessed Guardian
> Soul Control can no longer target Ancient units.
> You can no longer drop a possessed hero's items with the help of Soul Control.
> Soul Eater will now properly deal damage to banished units, but will remove the

banish effect from units being hit.
> Hellscream now displays how the bonus attack damage is calculated.

Soldier of Narjz
> Fixed a new icon.

Mechanical Genius
> Fixed a hotkey issue with Mechanical Titan.

New Heroes
> New hero: Rider


Items
> Tempest Boots will no longer allow a hero to teleport to another friendly hero.
> Mana Axe will now burn the mana properly.
> Soul Harvester do now have the Reveal Souls ability.
> Fixed the description with The Immortal.
> Fixed a buff issue with Ring of Honor.
> Changed icon of Flash Step.
> Hopefully fixed the issue with Death Wish, that you could damage yourself or allied heroes.


Bugs & Gameplay
> Removed the Weather Effect system.
> Updated the knockback system (minor changes).
> There will now appear a text when it's 25 seconds left before a new duel, that will notice you about this.
> Noxtru and Vimx is now classified as "Ancient" units.
> Removed a couple (hopefully all) of local variable memory leaks.

Edit 1: Drunken_Rider is ill so he want to take it slow now for a couple of days. He will not provide me with any more stuffs to fix from himself by some time. Anyway, I will fix the bugs/glitches/errors/and such YOU will post here and fix it for patch 2.3.0a! I will release patch 2.2.0a in a couple of minutes.

Edit 2: Patch 2.2.0a has been uploaded! Download it right away!

 

[zadelim]

I was LOL at the Rider! Those skill so simple

 

[lolreported]

Really? Well, he only got one triggered spell, so that's maybe why.

 

[Chaos lord]

@All,
Yes, I'm aware of the problem with the bounce ability. It will malfunction with other orb effects, I'm not 100% sure if it will malfunction with lifesteal as random.guy27 said. I will do as zadelim said, add a notice. Thanks.

It doesn't malfunction with lifesteal. Tested.

 

[Icedrake]

I'm just wondering, but are all of those terrible grammar/spelling errors from the previous versions fixed? Those just made the map look nonprofessional, plain and simple.

 

[Chaos lord]

I've got a solution for the glavies. Make it an orb effect)

 

[Vunjo]

Do you need some help with triggering?

 

[lolreported]

@Chaos lord,
Okey, nice to know that lifesteal is working. No, I won't make it an orb effect, I don't even know if that's possible.

@Vardix,
You've asked this before. A lot of them has been fixed, yes, and while the map is being updated, more and more of them are being fixed.

@Vunjo,
No, we don't need any help with the triggering. I'm the one triggering the map and at the moment and I've not encountered any triggering problems with anything yet. I don't even know how good you are, but I don't think you can help us. Thanks anyway.

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

I was LOL at the Rider! Those skill so simple

Hi, a simple hero can still be fun to play tho

Banished orc is pretty simple aswell but i don't think he's boring to play but ofc triggered spells are fun but we have plenty of both so all kind pf players can enjoy this map

 

[random.guy27]

I have to say one thing.

It's a common misconception that the Mana Cost should increase every time the level of the skill increases.
It just occured to me that the Mana Cost of a skill almost always scales for all Heroes.
Meaning, I could hardly see a skill that has a constant or even a decreasing Mana Cost per level.

Even if the Hero is not a Caster and/or has a low INT/INT gain, every Skill's mana cost increases per level, which is not right. Sure, some could increase but not all. That would cripple the Hero.

 

[DrUnKeN_RiDeR]

I have to say one thing.

It's a common misconception that the Mana Cost should increase every time the level of the skill increases.
It just occured to me that the Mana Cost of a skill almost always scales for all Heroes.
Meaning, I could hardly see a skill that has a constant or even a decreasing Mana Cost per level.

Even if the Hero is not a Caster and/or has a low INT/INT gain, every Skill's mana cost increases per level, which is not right. Sure, some could increase but not all. That would cripple the Hero.

Hi, i know about this but i have not given this so much time yet because right now we are focusing on making the heroes fun to play, giving them some cool abilities, making the abilities to work properly, fixing buggs and stuff like that.

So when we have released the full version of this map i will be focusing much much more on cooldowns and manacost and proberly some other stuff too like damage and stun durations.

 

[random.guy27]

^ Ok.

Anyway, I have another Hero Remake for you...

[REMAKE] Frosty, the Frost Wolf =>>> Fenrir, the Alpha Lycan

Fenrir, the Alpha Lycan

Fenrir

Strength - 21 + 2.4
Agility - 19 + 2.2
Intelligence - 17 + 1.4

Learns Canine Impulse, Savage Glare, Feral Strike and Crush Claw

Attack range of 125
Movement speed of 300

HERO INFORMATION

Got the model here
Fenrir, the Alpha Lycan

Starting Hitpoints: 540 [120 + (Starting STR * 20)]
Starting Mana: 255 [Starting INT * 15]
Starting Damage: 51 - 57
Starting Armor: 2

HERO SKILLS

Got the icon here. It's from Wowwiki

Canine Impulse

Fenrir provokes his inner instinct and goes into a rage. Increase his attack speed but causes him to take extra damage. Last for 12 seconds

Level 1 - Increase attack speed by 20% but Fenrir takes 7% more damage.
Level 2 - Increase attack speed by 40% but Fenrir takes 11% more damage.
Level 3 - Increase attack speed by 60% but Fenrir takes 14% more damage.
Level 4 - Increase attack speed by 80% but Fenrir takes 17% more damage.
Level 5 - Increase attack speed by 100% but Fenrir takes 20% more damage.

In Depth Explanation
• Does not stack with other "Berserk"-based skills

Cooldown: 20 sec
Mana Cost: 40/50/60/70/80

Savage Glare

Fenrir let loose a terrifying gaze that greatly frightens a number of enemies in an area, causing their movement speed to be reduced by 15%, and causing their attacks to have a chance to miss.

Level 1 - Reduce their movement speed and a 15% chance to miss on attacks. Last for 5 seconds.
Level 2 - Reduce their movement speed and a 20% chance to miss on attacks. Last for 6 seconds.
Level 3 - Reduce their movement speed and a 25% chance to miss on attacks. Last for 7 seconds.
Level 4 - Reduce their movement speed and a 30% chance to miss on attacks. Last for 8 seconds.
Level 5 - Reduce their movement speed and a 35% chance to miss on attacks. Last for 9 seconds.

In Depth Explanation
• Casting Range is 400
• Area of Effect is 225

Cooldown: 12 sec
Mana Cost: 80

Feral Strike

Fenrir has a 15% chance to deal critical damage by releasing a deadly blow. Has a mini-stun.

Level 1 - Deals 1.5x normal damage and stun the target for 0.01 second
Level 2 - Deals 1.75x normal damage and stun the target for 0.1 second
Level 3 - Deals 2x normal damage and stun the target for 0.2 second
Level 4 - Deals 2.25x normal damage and stun the target for 0.3 second
Level 5 - Deals 2.5x normal damage and stun the target for 0.4 second

Crush Claw

With his huge, mighty claws, he strikes the target, at melee range, with great force, dealing immense damage and also crushes the target's armor for a brief while. Last for 8 seconds

Level 1 - Deals 300 damage and reduces the target's armor by 4
Level 2 - Deals 400 damage and reduces the target's armor by 8
Level 3 - Deals 500 damage and reduces the target's armor by 12

In Depth Explanation
• Damage type: Physical
• Casting Range is 200
• Armor reduction takes place before any damage is done

Cooldown: 70/55/40 sec
Mana Cost: 125/175/225