Hero of The Empire v1.26C

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- retested map

Hero of Empire (Version 1.11E) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "Hero of Empire" is a Defense/Survival or a Hero Defense map that is similar to the map 'X Hero Siege' that is famous mostly in ASEAN borders, the game sets you and your team to pick a hero and strengthen it by means of leveling up, gathering gold, and killing waves on your bases' lane, game ends when you destroy all the enemy buildings. "I'm not sure with the specific details concerning the new updates of the map but I do see some information added on the base attack damage, its quite interesting and useful on how what percentage am I going to deal damage on armor types nice job with that, the difficulty still not sure is not reduced but I tried some heroes lately including int types I find them good for solo now but still a few change in this version." Terrain "Terrain has not change more over the design still looks plain." Management "Overall the map requires players or a team to finish this awesome piece if you want to finish this alone then I suggest you hurry up at gold farming, and experience gaining because this takes long to finish, anyhow going back to the map archives because its still a decent game play." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 8/15 77% C

^Orcnet
- has reviewed version 1.10b

^0neM4n4rmy
- has reviewed version 1.10b

^Orcnet
- has reviewed version 1.11e

 

[0neM4n4rmy]

epic picture, epic description, no downloads? weird...

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks OneManArmy ,yes i think is weird too, even the one that say ``Just another warcraft 3 map`` have a lot of comments and have downloads, maybe i forgot something important.

 

[0neM4n4rmy]

lack of map info maybe? ur map descrip is just three lines maybe u can improve that? maybe a little more detail on the descrip. ill try it once i get home and have time

 

[0neM4n4rmy]

alright ive just played it and there are a few bugs. (theres always some around the corner)
anyways the basic gameplay is like dota, just that the dark forces does not have any heroes but they have very strong units, correct? firstly, the terrain needs polishing. it isnt fun seeing dirt everyday. add some rocks and bushes. put some grass, it should do the trick. there are also a few bugs. the waypoins for the units needs fixing. they past each other without noticing. ive only got to play the main lane (single player), im not sure about the other lanes. also the items that do not require a recipe are very strong, that i didnt bother getting the items with recipes. u should make the normal items less stronger so ppl will look to recipe items to get stronger. also it would be good that u put the hotkeys closer together. I know it looks better the way it is but placing the hotkeys, for example on Q for first ability then W for second ability, E for third ability, etc. it makes it easier for people to use hotkey. one of ur hotkeys were on the right side, while one was on the left. its hard for me and sometimes a second can make a difference in battle. well so far that all my comments. its pretty good and decent. the only thing that really needs improvement is the terrain. i would rate this 4/5. the ablities and heroes are not too overpowered but i havent tested all of them. happy updating XD

 

[Siegfried]

Well the dark forces have bosses some of them are heroes, yes the terrain in the lanes are very simple, but in the neutral parts are better have forests, a graveyard , mountain, etc, i will improved the terrain in the lanes for the next version. units past each other without notice is only happens in the main lane is an uncomun.(i will fixed)
about the items it look powerfull but the enemys are a lot more powerfull so if you only buy items without recipe you will lose eventuality. Thank a lot for the comments and for the good rate.

 

[0neM4n4rmy]

i continued playing my saved game and at the end my items without recipes were too weak. u were right about the items. the infernal's flame strike is a bit overpowered but the mana fixs everything though. i enjoyed the game nice work
P.S. I lost :'(

 

[Siegfried]

Its very dificult to pass for one player because of the super bosses( they are annonce with red lirics) they come only for the middle and it suppose to get killed by more than one player. For one player its possible to pass but is very dificult its more like a survival.

 

[Siegfried]

I hope someone can answer me, im new posting maps on hive so i have two questions:

1.- More or less how much time it take to the map be judge
2.- I have some long changelog for the previous versions but this is the first version i put on the hive, so it will be irrelevant to put it or not?

 

[Chailman]

Great map, is like a hero survival, hero siege, RPG and torrent defense all in the same map, for that i will give a 5/5 raiting.

for the first question i think you have to wait for the comment of a map moderator there are two i guest, after that one week more, so so,

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks Chailman, it cheers to me that you like it.

 

[-Kobas-]

Update this with unprotected version so I can show you where you made errors.
Because I guess you can't understand jass so there is no need for me to explain how horrible your script look like.

 

[Masokist91]

Cool map and complex ! 5/5 +rep

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks Masokist.

 

[Orcnet]

Hero of Empire (Version 1.10b)

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	5/5	91-100	A

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	4/5	81-90%	B

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	3/5	75-80%	C

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	2/5	70-74%	D

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	1/5	50-69%	F

Overview:

Gameplay

"Hero of Empire" is a Defense/Survival or a Hero Defense map that is similar to the map 'X Hero Siege' that is famous mostly in ASEAN borders, the game sets you and your team to pick a hero and strengthen it by means of leveling up, gathering gold, and killing waves on your bases' lane, game ends when you destroy all the enemy buildings.

"game play was moderately difficult and time-consuming, but tagged with friends or some players the game is enjoyable, although the map is very huge and thus its complicated in reaching a location or so. It also hard when creeping out or killing a few waves since some heroes has a slow attack animation or attack speed, plus the unit's damage proportions but it was a cool idea in mixing the normal and hero attack damages and putting it into play. The game itself can take a lot of hours if your planning to take this solo but with a team you can finish this by a few hours, replay value is based on player-judgement but it can be great with friends."

Terrain

"Terrain is very dull, plus the over-sized space of the map, although I suggest you convert the whole map into something like a dungeon-like environment or anything that is based on a post-war genres."

Management

"My Conclusion over the map, well its cool while it lasts, can be useful with friends and co-op online, but I do recommend in decreasing the difficulty of the game if someone plans to take this in single player, much like a dialog trigger perhaps? also try adding some cool additions like mini-game, puzzles, etc since the map is way too huge, so good luck and great map."

Total Score:

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	8/15	77%	C

Status: APPROVED

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks Orcnet for the feedback an advice, I glad that you liked.

To reach a far location fast you can use Town portal or a boot that allow you to teleport to allieds building, for creeping out in neutral zones the best way is build a tower in your line and upgrade it until is strong enought to defend the line, always with a town portal in case a boss come.

 

[DestinyEX]

This map was approved...good.

Having fun playing this...it was abit difficult the 1st few times. But it's still fun playing this with friends.

P.S this map was approved...why is it still in this section?

 

[Orcnet]

map retested once again, not so sure with the change log but please make up a time line about it in your description

 

[Malefic]

Gameplay looks fine .
Main problem is Terrain .....blizzard clifs .
See Terraining Tutorial ..... or if you want to keap that amount of blizz clifs , make em more nicer and natural .
Chears
Malefic

 

[DestinyEX]

Yeah uhm,the map keeps getting updated but there is never a changelog of anykind...

So maybe add a changelog to your describtion,so can actually a reason to download it again.

 

[Siegfried]

I glad that you enjoin the game, this 1.11e is the first version approved in the hive but anyway i posted the full change Log of all versions, about the terrain i wanted to use high tools instead of blizzard clifs but it dont hide vission, so i will think in something for next versions like high tools with trees.

 

[Naman]

I enjoyed the map, but I was confused about what modes there were (there is no list when it says teal can choose mode).

 

[Siegfried]

Right now there are only two modes Survival Mode (-SM) is a very hard mode, very dificult to attack the enemies empire, is suppose to focus only in defense.
The other mode is Easy Mode (-easym) creeps go only for the middle path maximun 5 players, im not sure about the dificult of this last mode i made it for a fans request.

Next mode will be tournament mode, you will have to beat the others players in a tournament to win the game.

 

[UtopianHero]

Gona review it soon

 

[knight26]

Try to upgrade the terrain, none wants to play a hero rpg/aos map without a good terrain..

 

[Joinma]

Gameplay 6/5
I love it! This is another map that I can overload my gameplay speed (250+ actions per minute). I controlled more than 5 groups per second and it is still challenging to me. Many micro tricks can be used which make it more remarkable for me. There are also many secrets and skills which are useful for "rebuild" the map into what you want. The map still has the end-ders that make the game becomes "end". Finally, if many players play together this map can be beaten in no time.
Terrain 3/5
There still needs an improvement. Most are dirt and un-blight but WC3 still has pave road, snow, volcano theme and many things. There also have many available spaces for small rocks, sign, statue, etc. to make map more interesting.
Management 3/5
This map is very good for playing with friends, mostly, for co-op purpose. The difficult of this game is still not welcome for completely newbies. Adding easier difficult setting will make it more enjoyable for more people.
Overall 4/5
In my opinion, there should be an option for newbie to make the game easier for newbies or the whole and terrain can still be improved.
+1 since it is my favorite ^^

 

[UtopianHero]

Here is my review, take note it does not go in a flow/order system, whereas it is more of a comment than an actual state, so please take your time to understand.

This game is called Hero of Empire where the name actually explain the game itself, yes a hero defense game. It comprises of your empire being assaulted by undead, in which the attacking force has overwhelming powerful troops and that's why you are here to defend.

It appears much like Dota game, which creeps, however it still stands and directed more towards a survival approach mainly because it does not require other strategies instead of just pure macro-ing, the ability to control units in an extensively multiplied manner to avoid damage and deal damage.

Keeping in mind the trick to survive is to use the last-hit technique commonly abused in Dota games to get gold, whereas exp is gained by standing near the combat area.

There are many heroes to choose from, some of them even have "VERY HARD", difficulty of macro, however I feel that the "EASY" heroes still requires a good amount of item knowledge.

The items are limited because you can only buy the normal armor, stats damage and stuff that are "packaged" for certain uses. Example a sword with damage and bonus to all stats. Or a weapon that increases damage and attack speed.
However like many warcraft mod items, you can play around and see what you want as your last item.

It can be fun to play with other players though I only tried the single player, nevertheless, it is intriguing to play against this waves that keeps changing in both power and random empowered monsters come to you less often to keep the tension going. Although I haven managed to finish the game, "was damm few minutes away from winning because I almost got the end game weapon", and the wolf raped me.

The pace is slow, creates room for new players, the terrain is very clear and simple. Plain terrain can be good or bad. There are neutral creeps around the map if people want to defend or go lone wolf is totally fine as defending is more of secondary and completing items to end the game is mostly more important in a game with more than 1 player.

I could give rating and would be 3/5 because there is a lot more things to be done although the items are great. Incentives can be one thing, another thing is the look and feel of the game.

It is still best to clean up the terrain/neutral spawn points make the game seem more rigid because it feels as if the game is parts and pieces on the floor and you have to piece the puzzle to complete it. Of course it's fine as it's still in version 1 and counting. One suggesting would be to shorten the traveling distance from item shop to the hero, may be some shops "outside" could be beneficial.

I honestly feel it's fun to kill some mobs and upgrade then hit on the base but I think the time taken to become godlike is longer than I expected, all in all the content is interesting. More random events would be awesome!!

I would rate when it's time and I can give it a 5/5 in the future.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I agree with everything already said (terrain, shops, etc.).

Regarding the single player: there needs to be more towers defending your base, because the two present die far too quickly to be of any use. Creeping is nigh impossible, since leaving the lane guarantees defeat.

Also, some abilities don't really scale up very well. There's one hero who's intelligence is used for attacks, but there aren't enough.

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks all for your feedback it help me to improve the game.

Terrain will improve with the time, right now for next version will have some new items and the tournament mode if i can.

The difficult of this game is still not welcome for completely newbies. Adding easier difficult setting will make it more enjoyable for more people.

There are an easy mode (-easym) but dont have effect if you are only one player. I know that most of the noobs players may not endure difficulty and stopped play, but there are others that maybe the first few times lost at the beginning but they will continue playing and improving until they can get very far or even defead the game, the game right now is for the second kind of people, but others maybe can enjoy some future modes.

The items are limited because you can only buy the normal armor, stats damage and stuff that are "packaged" for certain uses. Example a sword with damage and bonus to all stats. Or a weapon that increases damage and attack speed.

There are items that have:

-Critical Strike
-Bash
-Posibility to cast frosnova or shockwave
-Life Steal
-Summon Units
-Cast differents Spells
-Hit points regeneration depending your total hit points
-Give Auras
-Change Attack tipe
-Change Armor tipe

"was damm few minutes away from winning because I almost got the end game weapon", and the wolf raped me.

I recommend you before try to finish the game have 2 End Game items( Legendary Items ) at least, one for Defense and one for Damage cause final towers have a high damage without enough defense will be imposible, also you need good defense or a powerfull tower agains bosses like Dire Wolf or they will rape you.

One suggesting would be to shorten the traveling distance from item shop to the hero, may be some shops "outside" could be beneficial.

You can buy horses that can carry your items, so you dont have to left your line unless you want also there are town portals.

there needs to be more towers defending your base, because the two present die far too quickly to be of any use. Creeping is nigh impossible, since leaving the lane guarantees defeat.

You can build your owns towers and upgrade them several times. you tower can defend your line while you go to neutral zones for creeping, also there are some players that manage to creep on neutral zones without towers and return to home with town portal or Wind boots.

Thanks Again to all, hope your feedback for next versions.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I tried towers. The problem is with some bosses (in this case, the hydra completely curbstomped the towers and two-shotted my hero) for who the towers might as well not be there at all, not to mention the inability to repair them.

Also, I think you should set unit upgrades to be purchaseable inside the base: if you've somehow managed to get into the enemy's base with zero upgrades, you might as well not need them.

 

[Siegfried]

Of course only towers cant defeat all bosses, some of them have demolish others like the Hidra have splash that affect towers, Hidra can be killed with only towers, difficult but it can be.
Worker Hero can repair towers, also priest can heal towers or empower them.

Upgrades purchaseable in base is a good idea, right now only the worker can purchase upgrades and only for his units.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I think some bosses (like the hydra) should be released alone (as in no other units go down the lane until it's dead). Because all it takes is the hydra to kill the towers while the creeps soak up damage, and once they get through they can't be stopped.

 

[Siegfried]

There are super bosses like Hydra and Broodmother they are announced with red lyrics and they coming only for one line so if you play with 4 players the 4 can go to fight the Hydra, fight a super boss alone are one of the big difficults of play solo but is possible to defeat all of them.

 

[cleavinghammer]

The Broodmother I managed more or less.

Do units spawn at the same rate on both sides? I get the impression the dark forces spawn faster.

 

[Siegfried]

Units have the same Spawn rate but there are a unit of Dark Forces that have a move speed aura, is the troll and come random with other units maybe this increases of move speed give you the impression.

 

[hoang_hitle]

Hero Buzan is so strong, he can detroys Balck Citadel and kill Doom with 2 legend item and 2 perfect emerald before Dragons appears.
I think you should buff Balck Citadel and Towns near it
Sorry about my English but I like this map so much :">

 

[Siegfried]

Hi Hoang_hitle, Perfect Emerald is considering and have similar cost of a Legend or legendary item, so with 4 legendary items is posible for some heroes to destroy Black Citadel and Doom and Yes Buzan is strong, is one of the best tanks of the game.

I understand all your comment except this part:

buff Balck Citadel and Towns near it

 

[hoang_hitle]

Sorry about my English, It mean "Increases base damage, armor, hp...". Because I think the game become easy to finish (destroy Black Citadel and Doom, not easy to kill some Boss) when I destroy first Skull Town early by some heros (Buzan,...).

How can I find "Tech tree of Little Child Forms"?

 

[Siegfried]

I was Thinking in make Doom stronger, Skull Towers and Black Citadel become stronger over time, Game is not really easy to finish, It seems easy for you because you know pretty well use some heroes, so for a hard challenge You can play Survival Mode, in this mode all bosses creeps and towers are stronger (this is a very hard mode).

In the Page Hero-Empire.com you can see Heroes detailed information, i dont put all the heroes yet because dont have enough time, Little Child will be one of the last ones because is to extense, have 57 forms. For now you can post it in the forum of hero-empire.com and someone or me will post something helpfull like and image with all the forms.

 

[Slay3r12]

Great map!

It's quite fun when you play with friends.

Keep it up with the updates.

 

[Siegfried]

Thanks for the good rate Slay3r12, map will have more updates.

 

[SuperChaton]

Hello !

Very good job for this map ! But, I play with one friend and it's so difficult to play on 2players mode, an editable version of the map is possible?

Thanks !

 

[Siegfried]

Hi SuperChaton, There are an easy mode (-Easym) creeps will comming only for one line, you can win or reach a very far boss in classic mode with some practice, a good strategy for two players is one of you choose a Wizzard with a good AOE spell maybe Dark Wizzard and the other a warrior the tipe of heroes that his abilities become stronger with items, abilities like critical strike, life steal, evasion, bash. So the wizzard must defend his lane an maybe help the warrior if he has problems to defend until the warrior get the correct items for his abilities and become unstopable, wizzard can invest in one or two powerfull towers to seal a line.
There are good items for all kind of heroes so all of them can kill powerfull bosses by there selfs.

 

[wkjy4ever]

I was Thinking in make Doom stronger, Skull Towers and Black Citadel become stronger over time, Game is not really easy to finish, It seems easy for you because you know pretty well use some heroes, so for a hard challenge You can play Survival Mode, in this mode all bosses creeps and towers are stronger (this is a very hard mode).

In the Page Hero-Empire.com you can see Heroes detailed information, i dont put all the heroes yet because dont have enough time, Little Child will be one of the last ones because is to extense, have 57 forms. For now you can post it in the forum of hero-empire.com and someone or me will post something helpfull like and image with all the forms.

the Hero-Empire.com website cant load,did it some place problem/website problem?

 

[Siegfried]

Yes there is a problem with the server of the website, is suppose to be fixed very soon.

 

[-Kobas-]

Infernal has missing DISBTN icon.
Terrain is horrible man.
Couriers are hard to control.
Items are really bad as well, can't find right recipes and shit.

Also infernal ultimate do not stack with permanent immolation, they share same buff.

 

[Siegfried]

Hi Kobas, long time no see you.

-Already know about the two problems with infernal planning to fix for next version(1.13) thanks for bug report.
-Terrain isnt my priority right now, maybe ill improve it for 1.14 or 1.15.
-Couriers are controled like a normal unit, one is: cheap, have normal move speed and can be killed very easy, the other is expensive have fast move speed, can carry 6 items and dont die easily, if you are in one of the two paths of the ends (first and fourth) first send your courier to the beginning of the path and them send it for you, instead of sending for you from the start.
-Not sure what you mean with bad items, there are items for any tipe of heroes and allows them to defead overpower bosses one on one, of course it will be easy with a team, towers and all heroes play the rol of his kind.

 

[wkjy4ever]

the little child character build didnt show on hero-empire.com
anyone can let me know it grow up tree?

 

[Siegfried]

There are information on forum but not all toguether, maybe for tomorrow ill put all forms in a image, for now you can read this http://hero-empire.com/forum/2-82-1 and can search the forum for more information. (ill post the link here)