Helping The GI in chat

[Joe-black-5]

Many people join the chat after few hours of registration and when they do, if the chat is empty from chat mods they will feel unwelcome and that people are ignoring them on purpose, others because of multiple accounts without them knowing that its against the rules (cases like people who forgot the password of an old account).
usually when I face such a case I CnP a message that I created and whisper it to them:
"Hello, you are globally ignored because you are new (ignored for the first week of joining) or because you have a second account, just post your case here http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/admin-contact-367/ and ask the admins about your case, and your problem will be solved. (no one can hear you in chat except few members)."

Many times when the chat is without chat mods or they are busy or afk these people have no guidance to help them so I was thinking about the Chat Bot Lirch (or some other bot like the dead Hakeem bot).
Lirch is known as a useless bot that only greets users and annoy others.

The question is, can we make Lirch "detect" GI users when they join and auto-whisper that message to them (with an addition "I am just a bot")
Lirch does not need to be able to see what the GI user is typing or become a chat mod himself, but he is a Program in chat and should be able to be have some changes that allow him to do the job.

This will make it easier for the chat mods, the GI users and actually make Lirch useful for once.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Or like I said: something that checks if any globally ignored user enters the chat to give those users a whisper (even without Lirch or Hakeem or The_Reborn_Devil around).

 

[Devine]

Lirch needs a purpose imo. Good idea.

 

[Pyritie]

I'll add this to lirch if someone makes the changes to the chat.

Although I dunno if they'd be willing to do that since the new chat is pretty much done

 

[Elenai]

I disagree with Lirch's usage for this. I believe however, that GI users should indeed be given a voice, most likely an official voice, as Lirch is "Pyritie's Bot" and is specifically so.

No private Bot should have the ability to do this. An official HIVE alternative should be devised. A Bot is not the only option either.

Giving all moderators the ability to see GI users would be helpful, and perhaps respected users, since they can help them better than a bot.

 

[Joe-black-5]

well the problem is mods usually don't have time to help the GI or they are too lazy.
As I stated before any other bot can be a replacement, but I chose Lirch because Pyritie is almost 24/7 in the chat

 

[Billy the Cat]

But why use bots if you can go without by having a new chat-function?

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Just have Lirch tell the new users they're global ignored for a while.

 

[Pyritie]

I believe however, that GI users should indeed be given a voice, most likely an official voice

In case you haven't noticed, the whole point of GIing someone is so they don't have a voice.

No private Bot should have the ability to do this. An official HIVE alternative should be devised. A Bot is not the only option either.

Define "official HIVE alternative". Who's going to build it/maintain it?

Giving all moderators the ability to see GI users would be helpful, and perhaps respected users, since they can help them better than a bot.

There isn't really anything to "help" them with besides telling them that they're GI'd and that they should go post in admin contact.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Define "official HIVE alternative". Who's going to build it/maintain it?

Ralle?
If he's working on a new chat it could be a nice addition

 

[Pyritie]

Ralle's got enough stuff on his hands as it is.

 

[ike_ike]

What's the point of letting global ignored users into the chat anyway? Can't ye just ban them from the chat for 3 days too?

 

[PurplePoot]

Py, a message sent to GIed users would be incredibly easy to implement in the main chat code and much more practical. Really, there is no reason to put everything on Lirch (if anything, I'd like to see bots go altogether).

 

[Linaze]

Yeah, I'd prefer an "announcement" message instead.

 

[HailFireer]

Ok, why are new users GIed.

I didn't have that experience since I joined hive to access a restricted page, and I became active several months afterward.

Oh and, maybe there can be an auto message that send a PM or a VM to new user, informing him about GI.

 

[Pyritie]

Py, a message sent to GIed users would be incredibly easy to implement in the main chat code and much more practical. Really, there is no reason to put everything on Lirch (if anything, I'd like to see bots go altogether).

Go and implement it then.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I could try to add it to my bot.

 

[Pyritie]

...your bot can't see GI'd people either, lol

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I can see them in the list to the right, but I can't see the "XXX has joined the channel."
So I would need to do something smart to detect when a globally ignored user enters.
I do have an idea though.

Can't explain it now, I'm going to bed.

 

[Hakeem]

The new user situation still needs to be worked out. Hopefully it will be able to be addressed properly soon, but in the meantime, there will be no effort to make a "bot" handle this task.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Who needs a bot or a mod. Just have the server send an automated message. Well yeah, I guess that is kind of a bot, but still.

Private bot: What if he "unplugged" the bot? Plus, doesn't the owner have to be present in chat for the bot to function?

Moderators: I honestly doubt that any of the moderators here would even care. It just puts more labor. More labor = more drama.

Just make a server message system.

This analogy shall help. When it comes to customer service, it's either the "yes/no" bot, or the annoying Indian guy...