Help with Unit creep movement

[Bond009]

I have a siege type game im workin on and i have the units start and spawn from the middle and go to the corners to fight each team
They stay there because i edited the game-play contents of creep guard distance and guard return distance so they dont go back to their spawn point right away..
BUT when they are very low health they start to retreat and go back to their spawn point after their health is in red.. why? and how do i stop that from happening..?

 

[wolfman]

Did you try setting creep return time to max?

 

[Bond009]

hah yeah ill do that too forgot about that. its default 5 secs but they didnt return for like 3mins prob not until they were close to dying..
and not all at once either just the individuals that were about to die. sure that time thing will fix that issue?

 

[wolfman]

i have no idea lol
And are the creeps the default creeps? or did you make custom units?
Maybe you could make them for neutral passive instead and set neutral passive as an enemy for all players via trigger. (im assuming your having the problem because the units are owned by neutral hostile)

 

[Bond009]

yeah they are owned by neut-hostile and neutral-extra its a 12 player game so i must use those players and it works well aside from that 1 little issue im having..

 

[wolfman]

Did you try making them owned by neutral passive? Because i think that the default a.i. for hostile units makes them run when they have low hp. But that might also apply to passive..

 

[mckill2009]

If the spawns are player units...

• AI - Ignore last created unit guard position

 

[Bond009]

Cool will that work with hostile and neutral extra players? or just players 1-12?
i tried changing that time return to the highest it goes but that didnt help either. they still flee when getting weak. how does a TD do it when they are getting attacked and they just keep walking? they dont return..

 

[mckill2009]

I did not tested it for NH & NP, but P1-12 will surely work...

 

[Bond009]

alright neat i'll try that out

 

[Bond009]

nope that doesnt work for player 13 and 15, the units still retreat when under heavy attack or low health about to die.. :/

that AI line only probably works if there's an actual AI running i dont have any AI script running.. its just the default wc3 actions interfering..

 

[Dr Super Good]

Get them to patrol to their desternation instead of attack. That way even if they do go back they will still return to fight.

 

[Bond009]

you mean use move unit instantly trigger?
i could do that i suppose but it would make it look kinda messy..
the distance they move is already pretty small, in wc terns i'd say like maybe 1200-1400 range tops.

You ever do testing on bnet by chance? i could show ya the beta i got so far of this new mode. Clan HPMM @ east

 

[mckill2009]

he means 'patrol', not move instantly...

 

[Dr Super Good]

No, I really meant patrol. Its one of the unit orders a player can issue.
smart - right click mouse button order when targeting a unit or ground
attack - attack move / attack a target order
move - normal move, acts simlar to smart when targeting ground
patrol - patrol order (to move between 2 points in attack move)
stop - cancles all current orders if possible

Some maps I see use patrol and seem to work ok.

 

[Bond009]

i see.., i dont really have room for portals in the map tho.. hm could u link me to an example map using this? would be helpful to check it out.

 

[mckill2009]

it's in...

• Unit - Order YOUR UNIT to ACTION target POINT

whereas 'ACTION' you can use PATROL and POINT means where you want
your unit to go...

 

[Bond009]

yeah i know what he meant i just dont get what portal does.. like i dont get what it does different from just using attack-move-to

 

[mckill2009]

OMG!, he did not say PORTAL, it's PATROL, lol!

 

[Bond009]

lmao! give me a break its late.. misread.. haha

yeah still didnt help tho.. :/

 

[EmeraldDragon]

If I remember well, there is an option in the unit properties that says: Can flee: True/False

 

[Bond009]

hm yea i kinda remember that now.. i wonder if that only pertains to hostile comp creep units..

also doesnt anyone know for sure what the Can Flee true/false in unit-data even does?

 

[Urwaldbewohner]

Do the creeps cast spells on low live?
This would interupt last given order so they go back home.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Flee makes units to move when they are idling and take damage.

It shouldn't have anything to do with "going back when on low hp".

 

[Windu]

Try setting the object editor data "Can Flee - False" to every creep unit you are using.

 

[Bond009]

k guess i can try that but unsure if that will have any affect on fixing the prob as it should only affect units idling like said above. i'll update soon

 

[Bond009]

Try setting the object editor data "Can Flee - False" to every creep unit you are using.

I did that still no help :/ i dont get why the built in AI is so retarded..

keep in mind i have them attack moving to a point so they attack units on the way, i tried patrol to a point that didnt help either. They mostly run away also when they are being attack by the cannon tower with splash damage if that changes anything..they really dont like towers attacking them..

 

[Quehn]

• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_NAMEOFREGION)

Try inserting this, after line where is issued to create the units that are send in.

This should make the trigger create the region everytime a unit is created and then remove the region afterwards, and repeating that as long as your trigger is constantly getting runned

 

[Bond009]

region for what thought? why will that help? i just spawn them at a point and remove and send them to a point and then remove that point every time