GUI Knockback System [Paladon] v.1.60

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18:27, 18th Nov 2008
Hanky:
Good work, all seems to work really smooth. The system don't leak and is MUI. Also the documentation is really well made. There I see that you really worked hard on the system. Well if someone have no clue how to use Jass Knockback systems I just can recommend to use this.

Deprecated in favor of Bribe's Knockback 2D.

Reasons:

1. It interrupts orders when used
2. If "destroy trees" is set to true it will also destroy bridges
3. The indexing and many other things is very inefficient
4. The frequency of special effects is not shown how to be
   configurable
5. The Knockback 2D that Bribe developed does the same things
   this does, functionality-wise, but actually does more and does
   it while fixing the above points.

 

[Paladon]

PS: I made this system because i got much requests by beginners: 'How to create a knockback ?'.
I hope it will help them

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Saw it already good system, especially for guys who work with GUI.
But I generelly prefer Jass but whatever xD
It is MUI and seems to have the handles removed. 5/5 from me ^^

 

[Joe-black-5]

Great system and it is in GUI ^^
5/5

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Hey Paladon, how did you make that signature? I mean the disco effect on the sentences ^^

[RAINBOW]Wohey, thanks [/RAINBOW]

 

[TheBlooddancer]

You should add a Boolean wich checks if it can destroy trees. if you have, then im blind. (And lazy)

 

[Paladon]

You should add a Boolean wich checks if it can destroy trees. if you have, then im blind. (And lazy)

I don´t think it´s necessary. But i´ll add it to my list.
EDIT:
A choose between either every knockback destroys trees or even none. Ok?
I don´t want to add a single booloean for every spell :/
Everything else makes no sense, ehr?

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Nah, just one. Either you want knockback to destroy (Which i dont) or either you want it. End of story.

 

[Paladon]

Approved then
I´ll add it with the next update (hopefully today).

 

[TheBlooddancer]

[RAINBOW]~Kaiz.~[/RAINBOW]

 

[Paladon]

*Update*
Check the changelog.

 

[Kwah]

Errggg! It's GUI.

Still, considering that a nice system.

 

[GATOR]

bu how to add the dmg of the spell ???????????????

 

[Jack_Sparrow93]

Good idea! And even I understand the triggers, gj! +rep

 

[Dethadow]

One thing im concerned of, copy and paste all the variables? it'll take forever. is there a way to copy them all? I tried shift and ctrl

 

[Paladon]

There is a totally easy way. File->Presettings...->General->Create unknown variables (the second last box). I´ve to admit that i don´t know the right english names but i think you should find it.

 

[EL-DarKo]

I am having trouble to open the map in World Editor, could this be because i am the user of a Vista PC?

 

[Joe-black-5]

no i have vista and it works

 

[judash137]

Have a serious propblem here: If you import all trigger of this system map in your map then it will work fine but if you just copy trigger "Cast a knock back" and "Get a knock back" and variables in your map then this system wont work any more in your map

 

[Paladon]

Have a serious propblem here: If you import all trigger of this system map in your map then it will work fine but if you just copy trigger "Cast a knock back" and "Get a knock back" and variables in your map then this system wont work any more in your map

Weird, i just importet the system into one of my maps by only copying the both named triggers. It works great. Maybe you can send me your map and i may see where the problem is.

 

[Kwah]

I was bored last night, and started adding a Knockback Adjacent option to the system. I'm mostly done, and just need to fix up some errors (It's still GUI), I'm missing removing some points in there, and I'm not sure it's 100% MUI right now (It should be).

Also, I really would suggest adding some JASS within the system itself. Just a few GetUnitX/Y's, and then you could change your whole Move Unit Instantly (Which is failzorz ), to SetUnitX . . . ect.

It would also save some time cleaning leaks. Anway, any interest on the Knockback adjacent part?

 

[Paladon]

That´s something i thought of too, and i think it´s pretty easy to add if you know how to do that^^
I´m very interested, and if it´s not MUI i´lll be able to handle that.

 

[Kwah]

I should have time to find the location that I'm not removing tonight. How against are you to adding in a few JASS optimizations?

 

[Paladon]

I´m loath to add that.
This system´s purpose is to
1) Give a chance for GUI(only) users to add MUI Knockbacks.
and
2) Give users a change to learn something for their own triggering (GUI).

I guess if i add more Jass than the simple call RemoveLocation and call DestroyGroup it may confuse those who aren´t able to understand Jass.

 

[Kwah]

I'm going to kind of agree with you there. If they want JASS, they'll use a JASS system.

Anyway, right now I have it colliding successfully, but with a few bugs. I have the frame work set up (How the user 'calls' it (Similar to trees). I'm not doing the effects yet, because I want to re-design your effects system. Using random events is fail here. It should be a counter, so that it is symmetrical.

This also differs from your present system, but perhaps using a global effect would be better, and then the players could specify other effects in the spell, but that's just an idea.

 

[Paladon]

Since i detected this system used in several maps and since there´s always space to improve it, i think of opening a thread in the Triggers & Scripts Forum to discuss further improvements and updates as well as functions to add/change there.
How´s about that?
Opinions please ^.^

 

[Kwah]

That sounds like a good idea.

 

[Paladon]

Here we go:
-=Check the discussion thread here=-

 

[kewlthis]

This is good....I dont really need it, but this could help improve my own triggering. Iv wanted to create a spell system but meh havent bothered yet. GJ

 

[Djinn1995]

can you make a passive skill that has a chance to make a knockback?

 

[Paladon]

I´m surely able to.

 

[Rmx]

The best knockback ever

 

[judash137]

Excellent spell! Lovely GUI Hately JASS !!! 5 Points for it

 

[Kwah]

Gah, I'm still working on my changes. I've been busy.

 

[Paladon]

No problem, take as much time as you need. I´m busy too^^

 

[Kazemaru]

Really good system Can i use it in my spell becouse i need knockback effect to my map :C

 

[Paladon]

Really good system Can i use it in my spell becouse i need knockback effect to my map :C

Of course. Just credit me if you think it worths it^^

 

[Kazemaru]

Ty

 

[aaron]

ugh so many variables o.o i gotta take 5 mins to look over it lol

 

[Kwah]

A bunch of the variables are duplicated and indexed for the MUIness of it. If you need any help, feel free to ask it here.

 

[Duhcake]

If you want any more suggestions for a lil bit more advanced? Knockback type, I got one. Unit shoots out an missile ( Of corse user specified ) And when the missile impacts with targed unit, the targed should be pushed along with the missile, and the missile wouldn't die from the impact, it would die whenever you want it to, and when the missile dies the unit stops aswell. Kinda like in this video: YouTube - Warcraft 3: Ice Arrow.
Im not forcing you to make this, Haha ! =D this is just an suggestion because im in lil need of one...

 

[Paladon]

Easy to make but i´d use 2 systems for that.
If you need that spell, please post it here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/f341/spell-factory-111684/

 

[Maximash]

For some really annoying reason, when i try to open this map i get an error that says i don't have enough storage to process this command. Or something like that, and It crashes the WE. Protected?

 

[Paladon]

For some really annoying reason, when i try to open this map i get an error that says i don't have enough storage to process this command. Or something like that, and It crashes the WE. Protected?

Of course NOT.

 

[CloudMax]

It crashed for me when i had vGUI. So dont use vGUI if you want to open this, i dont know why it happens but it does happen.

Anyways, this system is epic i really love it. Its like a gift from the heaven.
5/5, +rep. You rock!

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Very nice system what i suggest you to make would be:

Stopping knockback when you cant move (like the tree option), so you wont keep moving into a wall. And maybe add a Bounce function (again, like trees), so instead of keep getting moved into the wall, your knockback is changed, so it look like you bounced off the wall (similar to ArrowKnockback v1.00 - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site or Bouncing Formula - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site too lazy to make links :S).

Also, i know it broing, but you should really make the Destroy trees thing, the Bounce thing and the Stop thing individuel (so one spell can bounce, while another cant).

Great work, have a rep!

 

[Paladon]

Thank you, but an option to stop movement upon hitting a tree is implented^^ Simply disable "Destroy Trees" in the trigger settings
The "bouncing" idea is nice, i might add it.

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Okay, didn't see, just started using the system (for one of my newest maps called "Knockback!" xD) Looking forward to the bounce system

 

[neruda]

paladon can y use in multiplayer maps?