Goblin Exploration 3.56

Midnighters · Jan 17, 2011

What is the deal... it said there is a new message here in my UserCP, but I can't see any after my post..

Hero_Lief · Jan 18, 2011

I did post a new message? Can you not see it?

Midnighters · Jan 18, 2011

I can now, I couldn't the other day, either my browser was being gay, or hive screwed up.

julius55 · Feb 7, 2011

let me join ges clan

can you please let me join ges clan a love the game and a play it more then 5 hours a day solo more then 2 multi bechus all leave<< :vw_wtf:

Hero_Lief · Feb 13, 2011

We don't have a clan. We were going to but stuff didn't work out. Plus I hardly go on War3 anymore.

Yeah, people tend to leave. =\

Lolt · Feb 17, 2011

How to get a Meat?

Midnighters · Feb 17, 2011

Put a corpse near a fire, and use the "Cook" ability.

Lolt · Feb 17, 2011

Thanks

Midnighters · Feb 17, 2011

Not a problem.

Voldislav · Feb 22, 2011

Maybe wc3 save does not work because that map is protected?

Hero_Lief · Feb 23, 2011

No, the War3 save system has always been broken when it comes to custom maps. Some work, some don't. Nobody can pinpoint the exact reason.

Voldislav · Feb 23, 2011

Then you can enter the save/load system for a hero? Well, that will be saved skill points.

Hero_Lief · Feb 23, 2011

It shouldn't be that way; otherwise someone can grind a character offline and just load them randomly online, and then kill everyone. That's not how survival games have ever been, or ever will be.

I should also note that saves should work in singleplayer.

ikillforeyou · Feb 23, 2011

Woah, got an email from this thread and my mind filled with memories of GES, anyone want to play?

Hero_Lief · Feb 24, 2011

Lol tell ya what. I'm gunna play some StarCraft II tonight. If I lose a bunch, when I get home tomorrow I'll go on War3. We can play some GES for old time's sake.

orcwar2 · May 5, 2011

who do i talk to about bugs for i have a pretty big bug with the pick up corpse ability not working after i pick up one corpse

Midnighters · May 6, 2011

We know about this, we have tried fixing it, and haven't a clue why it won't work correctly. I will try to see if I can figure it out when I have more time.

orcwar2 · May 11, 2011

hey whats the eta for the next version?

Midnighters · May 11, 2011

Well, Hero_Lief has got addicted to Minecraft and pretty much stopped working on this map. I will see if I can get the unprotected version from him to work on.

orcwar2 · May 11, 2011

k and minecraft is addictive so i dont blame him

orcwar2 · May 12, 2011

Hey what exactly was hero_liefs position if im able to and with your permission i could help with his part while hes playing minecraft

Midnighters · May 12, 2011

He is project leader, hence why I need to get it from him, as well, don't double post. Another thing, Minecraft sucks.

orcwar2 · May 12, 2011

ok, sorry, and agreed.

oh also i just had an idea for a new hero: goblin warlord. he has a speaciall building he can make where you can hire various units i thought this cuz it gets annoying island hopping for items over and over to build one bot.

oh also one more thing whats the code for your sig midnighters its epic

Hero_Lief · May 13, 2011

Midnighters said:
He is project leader, hence why I need to get it from him, as well, don't double post. Another thing, Minecraft sucks.

You're one lucky ass. I just fixed my Ubuntu install today after seven months of working. The unprotected w3x was sitting on the desktop. What do you plan to do? I'll PM you a DL link.

Two other things.

Don't diss Minecraft.

I wasn't ONLY playing Minecraft. I recently got pretty good at playing Zerg (Spanishiwa... mmm) so I've been doing lots of ranked SC2 lately.

Midnighters · May 13, 2011

I think minecraft is boring, hence why it sucks in my opinion, as for what I am going to do, I am going to try and fix some things, and expand on others.

As well as, fix some coding that should not be multiple triggers.

orcwar2 · May 13, 2011

Hey i think i found out where that corpse pickup bug comes from. I belive it happens when killing a deer and having a second corpse come from no where so the ability registers the corpse from no where as unpick-up-able then it does the same for all other corpses.

Also ima still be dissing minecraft it bores me to death.

Hero_Lief · May 13, 2011

orcwar2 said:
Hey i think i found out where that corpse pickup bug comes from. I belive it happens when killing a deer and having a second corpse come from no where so the ability registers the corpse from no where as unpick-up-able then it does the same for all other corpses.

Also ima still be dissing minecraft it bores me to death.

It actually spawns a second deer where the first one died, and immediately kills it. As far as I remember anyways.

Midnighters · May 13, 2011

Which is why you can't pick it up, from what I can see.

Hero_Lief · May 13, 2011

Except it works most of the time, which leads me to curiosity on what the problem is. Further investigation may be needed.

orcwar2 · May 14, 2011

still you got to admit its a pretty good guess

Hero_Lief · May 14, 2011

It is, but I don't believe it to be the cause.

Midnighters · May 14, 2011

I guess, and with the drop command, why did you spread it into 6 triggers, when you could do everything in one?

orcwar2 · May 14, 2011

well im going to keep playing the map and look for other possibilitys to test since this bug is always hindering my advancement to the desert.

Edit: Removed deer posibility. killed several deer and no bug occured.

Edit: Bug seems to happen with different heroes. found so far: Brute, builders, sapper.

Hero_Lief · May 14, 2011

Midnighters said:
I guess, and with the drop command, why did you spread it into 6 triggers, when you could do everything in one?

Putting everything into one is what caused the selection bug. In fact, using any other method other than the one there causes the selection bug. Don't change it. Adjusting the timings makes some items not drop.

Midnighters · May 14, 2011

I have always done it in one trigger and never had issues.

Hero_Lief · May 14, 2011

Which is strange why it causes the selection bug, but it does. I don't know why.

orcwar2 · May 14, 2011

Add Pyromaniac to the list of corpse bug heroes

Hero_Lief · May 14, 2011

Orc, all heroes have the bug. It has something to do with triggers.

orcwar2 · May 14, 2011

not all, the warrior has not had the bug and i played him 10 times in a row.

Hero_Lief · May 14, 2011

Maybe it has something to do with the corpse cargo amount, which is an ability that changes for each hero. I'll look into it.

Midnighters · May 14, 2011

I have had a bug with the Warrior.

orcwar2 · May 14, 2011

i agree with Hero_Lief it does sound like the cargo amount

been looking into it some more and i found something wrong with the desert normally its suppose to drain you by x2 or x3 in deep desert but i went into the desert without suit and i noticed no extra drop in energy and health i think it might be a bug thought i outta tell ya :/

BlargHonk · May 17, 2011

Hero_Lief said:
Maybe it has something to do with the corpse cargo amount, which is an ability that changes for each hero. I'll look into it.

You know, I kinda recall you saying you would have 3.6 done a year ago.

Midnighters · May 17, 2011

He stopped production.

orcwar2 · May 18, 2011

i noticed that everytime i cook a corpse and carry the food with me the bug does not happen but when i dont cook it the bug happens i dont know what the deal is with it but it looks very interesting.

EliteSpectre32 · Jun 20, 2011

The map is great but is it made not to be able to save or is that some bug.Me and my friends play the game but when we have to quit we cant continue hours of playing and then starting all over again.

Hero_Lief · Jun 21, 2011

Yes, it's a bug, but isn't specific to the map. It's a major problem with custom scenarios in Warcraft, but it doesn't happen to all of them. If anyone has any conclusive evidence as to what causes maps to be unsavable, please do share.

Jinkotsou · Jun 28, 2011

Glitches

I found 5 glitches in the map. I've had my fun with them so now i'll let u fix them.

#1 trade prince is unable to use electro claws, not really sure why, but i'm running version 3.56 just downloaded it today. might not be the version u fixed it in, unsure whether it was released or not, but i thought u had.

#2 If you put 2 or more meats in the cooking pot (2 for this example) and add 2 ashenvale shrubs you have one meat remaining with no number. This piece of meat will act like a basic meat but it will never be used up by eating (cooking it will destroy it). I tested the lekka meat and it dosen't work, so for some reason an extra meat is being created at the base of the stack.

#3 my personal favorite of all the glitches. If u make a few structural reinforcment kits (either rank will do) and then construct a cooking pot, while the cooking pot is constructing you may give it the reinforcment kits and it will spawn either 2 or 4 health tomes aroung the cooking pot that your hero or robots can pick up. Nothing strikes fear into your enemies like a 5k hp shredder. The reason i found this glitch is that the cooking pot has an inventory while it is still constructin rather than gaining one after completion. As for a fix the simplest method i could think of is removing the inventory of the cooking pots and adding a trigger that gives it an inventoy after completing construction. Please note that i have never tested this with other buildings, but for most the inventory only appears after completion.

#4 (on trade prince) This one you may have heard before but for some reason my drop command will often leave the first item in my inventory there. It mainly occurs when i have only 1-4 items. And i think it started after i moved after typing the drop command which left me with only my first item, but i could be wrong.

#5 this is a really old one i remembered, but figured i might as well add on incase it has been overlooked. On objective mode after killing the purple saytar the trigger turns on itself rather than the next trigger for the furbolgs. (Found this one when i was looking at an unprotected version from a long time ago so it may have been fixed, and no i didn't host any of my changed versions those were just for me to practice using map editor.)

As for improvments for the game (yes i know that production has stopped, but if anyone such as midnighters starts it again i'd like something new to happen) i would say an ice island would be an interesting alternative to the desert for extreme enviornments. Additionally adding a random event system that causes one or two random events to happen at the start would make each game a little more different. Thio would be a simple hashtable that could be added to run at the start. These could be something like spawning new units (Ex. sharks in the water, making the currents units stronger (some random upgrade to them all), or make something unique like a giant whirlpool that sucks carless sailor in and either kills them or makes their boat re-emerge at a random spot.

Hero_Lief · Jun 29, 2011

I think I disabled adventure mode, so #5 doesn't apply... Probably fixed that bug before doing so, though.

TBH, I don't forsee myself continuing production of this, at least in War3. Maybe I could develop something like it for StarCraft II like I planned originally, but it's still all in theory.

Midnighters · Jun 29, 2011

I am really considering keeping production going, simply because I fell in love with the map.

Version 3.6 - Project Breakdown	Percentage Finished
Building System Rewrite	~10%
Gamemode Rewrite	~5%
Mode Selection Rewrite	100%
Hero Pick Rewrite	~90%
Unit Balancing	Not Yet Started
Item System Rewrite	~5%

Team Member	Role
@Midnighters	Systems \| Unit Balancing \| Ideas
@Mr. Paupiette	Model \| Effects
@Eldrazor	Terrain \| Triggers \| Ideas

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