Favorite WarCraft III story character?

[w3.player]

I am intrigued... who is/are your favorite character(s) from Warcraft III? I am referring to the characters which appear in the campaigns of the game...

Please state your opinion and a little reason for which you chose that particular character.


My favorites are Tyrande Whisperwind, for her dedication and faith in the power of light against the darkness, Malfurion Stormrage, for his great wisdom and power over nature... and last but not least Medivh, for his amazing wisdom and knowledge that lead to the unification of the races against the forces of the Burning Legion.

Of course... i like all characters... but i think i like those above mentioned more than the others. Depends...

 

[Hexcellion]

Arthas, his unending quest for power which overwhelm all there is.

 

[Kala]

Grom Hellscream, cuz he died for his people

 

[Ken-E]

Kel'Thuzad, because he got resurrected from a necromancer to a Lich, that's already awesome enough.

 

[Gamling]

I have multiple acctually, first one, Kel'Thuzad Second Vol'jin

 

[w3.player]

^ Please understand i mean characters from the Warcraft III Lore... not WoW... so could you edit your reply?

 

[Gamling]

Fine

 

[w3.player]

Kel'thuzad... yes, the others no. They do not appear as characters in the Warcraft III Lore. Maybe in the universal lore...

Nonetheless... let's not go off-topic.

 

[Chaithresh]

my favorite character is illidan.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Arthas is my favorite character from wc3!

 

[Arcisal]

Why is everyone opting for the baddies? My favorite character would be Uther the Lightbringer.

 

[w3.player]

Well, Arcisal... although i share your opinion... it is rather weird why most people go for the bad characters... (especially arthas, i've seen, but we must understand that he's the primary character after all...)

Oh and yes, i would like to ask, if this came to mind... what do you, people, think of Illidan? Is he a good/bad character?

Honestly... i tend to say he's good. First of all because of his honor. Second because he only tried to do the right thing, but, yes, by using the ways of the evil.

 

[Arcisal]

...what do you, people, think of Illidan? Is he a good/bad character?

I would have to say good during his earlier years (Even before he turned into a half-demon). His original intention was of good cause, but his pride and ego shortsighted him, preventing him from seeing the cause of his actions before actually doing it. Eventually it turned him to downright evil, especially when he consumed the Skull of Gul'dan. But his good intention were also shown in small glimpses when he rescued Tyrande with his hated brother Malfurion, which also part of the reason for his rage, and also subtly on his ever-going war with the Burning Legion.

What about Sylvannas? Would you say she is a pawn or a queen of her own?

 

[w3.player]

Sylvannas is nonetheless a queen, i agree that she is a powerful mistress that can and already rules over a part of the scourge (i am only talking about w3 lore, not wow). Yet... we have to see that she doesn't have the wisdom of a great leader... and it may be possible that a more powerful demon has plans for her, maybe even Tichondrius.

 

[bowser499]

I like Kael'Thas Sunstrider. He thought about his people, not only about himself.

 

[rcshaggy]

I really like Thrall, because he saved his people from Imprisonment and then took them to Kalimdor to live in peace and had so many hardships there in Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne.
I have others too, and I just like Thrall out of all the Warcraft III Story Characters.

 

[Razosh]

Sylvanas Windrunner.

 

[ExMortis]

I kinda like Arthas for his mean attitude but his more like a dark hero for me.
Maybe Kel'Thuzad because he's so loyal all the time.
But than there's Illidan. It's amazing how complex they made that character.
In Reign of Chaos it was Thrall, but no: Illidan

 

[TaShadan]

Admiral Proudmore!

 

[Vunjo]

I like Malfurion, for bringing peace and good everywhere he goes.

 

[Rui]

Thrall or Cairne, I like the first one's sense of honor and the second's attachment to nature.

EDIT: Although I like Maiev a lot too.

 

[Sky Green]

Detheroc, because he used mind control to take over a whole city of humans

 

[Vunjo]

detheroc, because he used mind control to take over a whole city of humans

human hater!

 

[Sky Green]

human hater!

Garithos was a bastard! He was a racist he exiled the Elves from the alliance because they got rid of the Undead with the help of Naga. And I hope Detheroc comes back from the Twisting Nether

 

[Vunjo]

Hey hey now, Garithos is a bastard indeed, but you can't hate the entire race because of him.

EDIT: 800. Post

 

[Sky Green]

Hey hey now, Garithos is a bastard indeed, but you can't hate the entire race because of him.

EDIT: 800. Post

I don't hate the whole race just garithos and his followers

 

[w3.player]

Somehow i agree with Sky Green... Garithos and Jaina's father (admiral Proudmore) were both bastards, racists especially, who didn't have the slightest clue about trust or honor. Yet they were only two and maybe there could be a few others like them... other than that, all humans seem really ok.

 

[Vunjo]

^ well that was my point as well right? Although I don't know how bad was admiral Proudmore, I know that Garithos was more than a fool.

Still, the others like The Lightbringer, Bronzebeard, and the rest were quite good.

 

[Sky Green]

^ well that was my point as well right? Although I don't know how bad was admiral Proudmore, I know that Garithos was more than a fool.

Still, the others like The Lightbringer, Bronzebeard, and the rest were quite good.

Bronzebeard was a dwarf not a human

 

[Vunjo]

I meant the Alliance, my bad.

 

[trolman]

Hey hey hey, Garithos is my favourite character! The elves had to be punished inorder of asiding with the enemy, the naga are members of the burning legion, the force that destoryed lordaeron, if it wasnt for the legion there would be no scourge nor orcs!
Also he was the only one brave enough to stand and fight a seemingly imposible war for his people.He was the only hope of Lordaeron (no WoW pornography please) and infact he fought off the undead quite nicely untill the betrayal and the final blow with the whole mind control. And even then he sacraficed himself by joining with the forsaken in hopes that they would keep his promise.
He also has a mount and looks like a knight,how cool is that?HE WAS THE BEST!RIP !!!

 

[Vunjo]

^ He was a racist bastard. You can't argue that. He's a fool of a human, who thinks only of himself, and the rest of the humans. He even hated the Blood Elves, who were the closest race to humans. A. Racist. Bastard.

 

[trolman]

Maybe he had something personal against elves but you cant get away with what you're saying.
A fool for trying to save his people and organise an opposition against the undead and the demons (naga)?
He hated blood elves because Kael betrayed him.First time we see him ingame he is angry because those supplies were important but kael and company were too buisy helping the elves stop illidan from killing the lich king -.- He disliked the alliance in how usless and dead it was after the seccond war?Besides the dwarves and Proudmore's nation no one else helped Lordaeron.

 

[w3.player]

The problem with Garithos is that he overestimated himself way too much... his foolishness and blind faith in the humans as "the right race" led him to his destruction, let's review how he ended up to die...

Yes... he got controlled by the undead and then killed by Sylvanass.

 

[trolman]

Overestemated himself?Please explain.

Also faith for the right race? That was only AFTER the blood elven betrayal and you cant blame him,he was fighting a seemingly unbeatable foe,part of his army deserted and joined the burning legion, if he doesent ally with the forsaken his people would be slaughtered by them but if he does there might be a chance that they will keep their promise and leave the humans alone.

Also blizzard were too buisy sucking kael's magic wand too much and thats why the original game is better than the frozen throne.

 

[Edhel-dur]

Jaina.

 

[Sky Green]

The Elves didn't betray him, they helped him fight off the undead, if he accepted the naga, the alliance would be supreme over the Horde because of their aquatic advantage. (I think we should open a new thread for what-if and judging wc3 characters)

 

[trolman]

The Naga never intended to join the "alliance" (please dont add any WoW stuff). They were part of the burning legion=enemies of lordaeron.He forgave him once but the seccond time was too much.Now you would say "he left him without an army bla-bla-blaaa" but the truth is that he needed reinforcments for the front line,the most important battlefield!Yet Kael still accepted the help of the bloody naga, HE COULD HAVE RAN to fight another day you know?But instead he had to aside with the enemy and in such harsh times that is punishable by death.

 

[Edhel-dur]

The Naga never intended to join the "alliance" (please dont add any WoW stuff). They were part of the burning legion=enemies of lordaeron.He forgave him once but the seccond time was too much.Now you would say "he left him without an army bla-bla-blaaa" but the truth is that he needed reinforcments for the front line,the most important battlefield!Yet Kael still accepted the help of the bloody naga, HE COULD HAVE RAN to fight another day you know?But instead he had to aside with the enemy and in such harsh times that is punishable by death.

Actually, what I understood from the story was that Garithos wasn't himself during the entire campaigns. By which I mean that even his decision to leave Kael with mininal forces against the Scourge was actually a move from the Dreadlords to choose easier fights for their main objectives. Sure, his character was that which was shown, but his decisions were for the most part influenced by the Dreadlords.

 

[trolman]

Actually, what I understood from the story was that Garithos wasn't himself during the entire campaigns. By which I mean that even his decision to leave Kael with mininal forces against the Scourge was actually a move from the Dreadlords to choose easier fights for their main objectives. Sure, his character was that which was shown, but his decisions were for the most part influenced by the Dreadlords.

Nah that would be imposible.The mind control happens later after the Dreadlords betray arthas. So up to that point.

The decision was that the front line is way more important to maintain than the flank.He knew Kael would mannage somehow otherwise he would know that the main force would flanked.

 

[Edhel-dur]

Nah that would be imposible.The mind control happens later after the Dreadlords betray arthas. So up to that point.

The decision was that the front line is way more important to maintain than the flank.He knew Kael would mannage somehow otherwise he would know that the main force would flanked.

Actually they don't say when the mind control happens. I can only assume since the Dreadlords were there since Lordaeron got conquered by the Scourge, that they were using mind control on Garithos for the longest time.

 

[trolman]

What?Then why would they make him fight them?That's really too supid to be true,and if he wanted to kill kael he would have done it with his army and or with the help of the undead. The 3 dreadlords appear after the change.Why do you think they dindt just mindcontrol Kael too?

 

[Vunjo]

The Naga never intended to join the "alliance" (please dont add any WoW stuff). They were part of the burning legion=enemies of lordaeron.

Sorry to say, but this is bullsh*t. Kael, Illidan, and Lady Vashj were killing demons in outland, thus were against the burning legion.

 

[Edhel-dur]

What?Then why would they make him fight them?That's really too supid to be true,and if he wanted to kill kael he would have done it with his army and or with the help of the undead. The 3 dreadlords appear after the change.Why do you think they dindt just mindcontrol Kael too?

Because Kael was an elf maybe? And Garithos was ignorant, a racist and overall he was the right type?

If you read the wikia, you will see that Dreadlords are very devious and cunning. So from afar and from the shadows, those 3 Dreadlords add shades of grey to Garithos, as in they don't change him completely as a person, they just make him more worse. The key here is that the Scourge wanted to recapture Dalaran, so they sent Garithos and the biggest part of his army somewhere else, and sent their main undead army over Dalaran which was defended just by the Blood Elves. If we remember correctly, the Blood Elves would have lost if not for the Naga.

So it was a really methodical way of winning the war, slowly but surely. Moreover the Dreadlords were put in charge of Lordaeron right after the Burning Ligeon left for Kalimdore.

That's just how I always understood that part of the story.

 

[trolman]

*facepalm* Illidan followed that Demon guy who was the new legion's commander. ITS FUCKING SAID IN A CINEMATIC!

You fail to understand me again and the story again. Garithos was the only one leading an opposition to the undead at the time. He needed those reinforcment for the front line because if they lose there than dalaran is lost. Kael however was sent to fight off a SCOUTING group,not a main army just some scouts. If he failed,he would have been avenged and dalaran would still be in allied hands.Its pritty obvious he wasnt controled because in that mission when you get to kill the dreadlord, he and all of his army fight ASIDE the undead and have a zombified like mind.Where as before they all crearly have thier minds. I belive elfs could be mind controlled to but even if they werent and Garithos wanted him dead from the start, he and the undead would have just killed em.

 

[Sky Green]

*facepalm* Illidan followed that Demon guy who was the new legion's commander. ITS FUCKING SAID IN A CINEMATIC!

You fail to understand me again and the story again. Garithos was the only one leading an opposition to the undead at the time. He needed those reinforcment for the front line because if they lose there than dalaran is lost. Kael however was sent to fight off a SCOUTING group,not a main army just some scouts. If he failed,he would have been avenged and dalaran would still be in allied hands.Its pritty obvious he wasnt controled because in that mission when you get to kill the dreadlord, he and all of his army fight ASIDE the undead and have a zombified like mind.Where as before they all crearly have thier minds. I belive elfs could be mind controlled to but even if they werent and Garithos wanted him dead from the start, he and the undead would have just killed em.

True, true he served Kil'Jaeden, but the Elves only went with the Naga cause they were imprisoned. The naga tried to hide from Garithos when he came to talk with Kael'Thas. If Garithos didn't see the naga he would think that Kael did it alone and he would probably place him in Dalaran to defend it if more Undead would come.

 

[trolman]

They fought the naga aside the nightelves and later they accept their help wtf?

And maybe even defeat the Scourge if stormwind gillneas or Jaina would actually send some help...

 

[Vunjo]

Now here's a little statement you can't argue:

Humans, Blood Elves, and Naga had the same enemy: The Scourge/Undead whatever. A Human gave a Blood Elf a mission to kill Undead. Naga offered Kael some help in it, as it was their enemy as well. So, Kael did his job very well, with a little support from other race, which shared same enemy, Garithos didn't like it, and sent him in prison. This is the sign of racism. You can't say he's not bastard in that part.

 

[trolman]

Because the Naga were with the burning legion!So what if they fought the undead that doesent make them friends. He gave Kael a seccond chance but Kael failed, in war times treason is punished with death. He wasnt a real racist untill Kael betrayed him.

 

[Edhel-dur]

*facepalm* Illidan followed that Demon guy who was the new legion's commander. ITS FUCKING SAID IN A CINEMATIC!

You fail to understand me again and the story again. Garithos was the only one leading an opposition to the undead at the time. He needed those reinforcment for the front line because if they lose there than dalaran is lost. Kael however was sent to fight off a SCOUTING group,not a main army just some scouts. If he failed,he would have been avenged and dalaran would still be in allied hands.Its pritty obvious he wasnt controled because in that mission when you get to kill the dreadlord, he and all of his army fight ASIDE the undead and have a zombified like mind.Where as before they all crearly have thier minds. I belive elfs could be mind controlled to but even if they werent and Garithos wanted him dead from the start, he and the undead would have just killed em.

- Illidan accepted a job from Kil'jaden to destroy The Frozen Throne.
- To accomplish this he called upon the Naga, and went to Dalaran to use the Eye of Sargeras. In Dalaran he failed, so he retreated to Outland.
- We don't know whos idea was it, but Vashj convinced Kael to join Illidan.
- Illidan had no interest in the war between Undead and Humans.
- Illidan slayed Tichondrious in RoC.
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- We do not know clearly when, but at one point Garithos was sure to be mind controlled.
- If game statistics are any indication, mind control works only on the weaker minds. Garithos himself was already a racist and mostly a brute. So it was easier to control his mind and make him take certain decisions which wouldn't look strange.
- Kael had to defend Dalaran from a huge army. Knowing this, Garithos simply choose to take all the non-blood elven army units to the front, without stating exactly why. An elusive decision indeed.
- Varimathras was not the only Dreadlord. There were others as well. As the Burning Ligeon moved towards Kalimdore, they left 3 Dreadlords to keep an eye on the Undead in Lordaeron, and continue their campaign in the Eastern Kingdoms.
- The Burning Ligeon took a part of the Undead army with them to Kalimdor. Wether it was a huge chunk or just a small one, we cannot know. Though assuming that Archimonde himself was the leader of the army, and that their joint army of Demons and Undead wrecked havoc all the way to the World Tree through 3 races, even if it was just the survivors of Lordaeron, a really big part of the Horde was there, and most of the Night Elves. That leads to the conclusion, that the Ligeon took a big chunk of the Undead army with them.
- The Undead Scourge army being weakened in numbers, and facing an army formed of Dwarves from Aerie Peak and Khaz Modan, Blood Elves and Humans from Stormwind, they couldn't just roflstomp the mortals. Thus I believe, that the 3 Dreadlords decided to play it safe, and just defeat their enemies methodically, step by step. Their goal was to recapture Dalaran, so they mind control Garithos into leaving just the Blood Elves to defend the City while Garithos took all his men to the front lines.
- Eventually there weren't many human forces alive, so Detheroc could enslave them all.