Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[redmarine]

Well this is what I did:
I made a small testmap.
I have added Clawns Of Attack (+12) to the system.
I have picked up items.

That's all!
The messages you can read are examples of the information you can get with the system, and how else should I give information?

He wanted to see some Graphic User Interface to which you interacted with. It ain't plain obvious for some.

EDIT: Oh, right. Good job on the system! Looks pretty solid. When will you have a ready version for us to try out?

 

[Anachron]

GUI? I haven't made any GUI yet. Only some plain JASS hooks to my system so I can actually test it. The GUI will be implemented with addons, which I didn't start until yet.

So actually, I don't know when I will send you a ready version of my system.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

well, if the core already works, you could already send them the system and they will implement the gui later
but dont do that if its too much wip, so they dont have to config the stuff several times

 

[Anachron]

Atm its to much WIP, as you said. I want to create an automatic object loader for abilities and such which implement their data automaticly. However I am not sure if it will work.

 

[sammath]

Is very very very nice map.
How can i look inside the map for learn?

 

[CloudMax]

Is very very very nice map.
How can i look inside the map for learn?

You cant, this map is protected.
But just private message CloudWolf about it, and he will send you a version that you can open.

 

[Lancer1111]

I played many versions and everything is very good, BUT it's just too easy. I played with my Friend on B.Net and we managed to kill the all Bosses and Units easily (He was Monk and me Witch Doctor).

 

[Anachron]

Sup Diablo III - Warcraft Team!
I decided to make a little save / load addon, because I've heared you are planning to do several maps. If you want so I will include the functionality that loading forward is possible, but backward not. (So the maps you do can have different difficulty, for example this is easy, next will be harder and so on).
You could save code from this version and load in the second part, but not the other way around. Tell me if you like it. Will work on the inventory system again later.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

work on it now

im sure you can somehow use any other save/load system from here for this, but it depends

 

[redmarine]

Sup Diablo III - Warcraft Team!
I decided to make a little save / load addon, because I've heared you are planning to do several maps. If you want so I will include the functionality that loading forward is possible, but backward not. (So the maps you do can have different difficulty, for example this is easy, next will be harder and so on).
You could save code from this version and load in the second part, but not the other way around. Tell me if you like it. Will work on the inventory system again later.

Those plans have been scratched. Making multiple maps aren't worth it since we simply don't have the luxury of time.

 

[Anachron]

Ok I guess so I will focus on the FullScreen implementation when the raw system is finished. Good news: Its just a matter of time when I give a beta to the public.

 

[CloudMax]

Those plans have been scratched. Making multiple maps aren't worth it since we simply don't have the luxury of time.

But there is still a chance of a ORPG d3w map.
Even if some people dont have so much time, it would be fun to have something to work on time to time ^.^

When i think of it, i could just go and make up some small side-story quest lines etc for the map.. in hope of actually making the map

 

[redmarine]

But there is still a chance of a ORPG d3w map.
Even if some people dont have so much time, it would be fun to have something to work on time to time ^.^

When i think of it, i could just go and make up some small side-story quest lines etc for the map.. in hope of actually making the map

Could you tell me more about what you're actually planning to do? Will it be in the same map or in an external one?

If I'm not mistaken CloudWolf changed his mind about creating a new map because it's simply not worth it.

 

[Anachron]

How big is your map dimensions by now? The maximum is 480x480, which is pretty much.

 

[CloudMax]

Could you tell me more about what you're actually planning to do? Will it be in the same map or in an external one?

If I'm not mistaken CloudWolf changed his mind about creating a new map because it's simply not worth it.

I have talked alot about it.
And cloudwolf said that we could make another map, an ORPG, but he will not be able to lead the project all the time, but he will terrain the map etc.

And my plan is to make it like your in a main town, you get quests, go to different areas etc. but there will only be one big town, just like if it was one act in diablo 2

You start in a town, you get some quests, you go out there and do them, return to town, get new ones, go to new areas etc.

 

[CloudWolf]

Im still unsure whether or not its worth starting a brand new ORPG project

As soon as SC2 is released, I'll pretty much finish with all my warcraft 3 projects and begin something new for starcraft

My personal preference would be to continue updating this map as much as psosible until then

As for multiple maps, thats an idea which has been abandoned. I've decided to keep everything on the current map. However, with each update I'll be expanding the dungeon and adding new content I'm already creating a new boss for the upcoming v1.20

 

[Super-Sheep]

Try to make a mode where it is almost impossible and only "pr0s" could beat it. It would be a big plus if the map would actually be hard.

 

[redmarine]

Try to make a mode where it is almost impossible and only "pr0s" could beat it. It would be a big plus if the map would actually be hard.

CloudWolf just told me go work on it. We should have it ready by version 1.20

 

[Anachron]

Well I guess I will stop then, Starcraft II will never be one of my business.

 

[Anachron]

Guys I got to update! ... (Bump lol)

Well I worked a LOT on the inventory system this weekend.
I got the InventoryHandler to work, implemented AdvancedInventory, ItemStacking, ItemForging and InventoryItemSeek.

What does this mean for you? Well currently I can (successfully) forge items, make items stack and remove or count items of type from/of the hero.

Also I made the pickup condition module to work, so a little test has proven that for example a function that returns false for MountainKings are not able to pickup a chosen itemtype.

While this means only I do have more stuff, I now (unofficially) announce my first BetA of the inventory system to the 1st of January 2010.

While still a lot of testing has to be done, I also need to implement an user UI to give the user access to the system. Currently I replace blizzards ugly 6 slot inventory which is really awful, because I plan to do an large fullscreen system, which includes trading, multiple item selections and sorting of items by type, name or custom data.

While the fullscreen may not be public for the beta, most of the functions will.

 

[Oziris]

Anachron don't make it too complicated :O

 

[Anachron]

Too late I guess .
I already have 20 librarys just for the kernel.
However, its worth it!

 

[redmarine]

Too late I guess .
I already have 20 librarys just for the kernel.
However, its worth it!

How big filesize wise is it? It wouldn't be worth it if it exceeded 800kb-1mb.

 

[Anachron]

I will focus on about 200kb, without implementing your data. It depends on your actual item count and ability count for items and how much information you need.

For example, its currently 79kb, but I don't have any comments and only 2 items, which only have 1 ability each, which I haven't added a description to.

 

[redmarine]

Alright.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

While the fullscreen may not be public for the beta, most of the functions will.

so whats the point of releasing it public then....

 

[Dr Super Good]

Testing and bug detection on what is implimented?

 

[Anachron]

Exactly. I will release it to the public so developers can actually test it and find bugs and issues for me, also so that they can get familiar with code.

Good news!

PurplePoot was about making an Data Exporter which is able to access to Object Editor data in vJass. You can find the program here.
When I get it to work I will make it so that most information will be loaded automaticly, so you don't need to setup anything at all.

 

[R.Gaming_Strike]

First Wc3 map which have stunning terrain. Great work on new models guys.

 

[Starcrafter]

This Map has gotta be the best Diablo Map I've ever seen!
I first Tried the Barbarian and then whoa!I went
Then I tried Witch Doctor and I said He's Immortal!
Then I went to try Monk which Ill try later.
I just downloaded the map 2 days ago. and a few testings before commenting.
Very Balanced for JUST a Beta.What I'm trying to say is that This map is too completed for my thoughts of it just being a beta.


Overall :11/10

 

[Noobius]

Heehey, the camera's movable! What's the place in the right most side of the mini map for? You never really get there... but hey I never really fully saw the demo so I'll just shut up.

 

[Anachron]

Important update notice!

Due to the newest changings to the vJass developing, JNGP Tools and my vJass knowledge increasement I made a new one from scratch.

Due to this discussion I learned that keeping things small is really important.

The new one will has every feature the old system has, however, its a lot smaller and easier to implement.

For example, the modules CIForging and CIStacking are optional and can be implemented or not. If you use them, you need to also implement the module CIItemSeek (A helper for itemsearches)

For example, this will add a new forgeitem (when you have module CIForging implemented):

CustomInventory.addForgeItem('ID', "[2x'itm1'][3x'itm2']")

This will make the new itemforging requirements in a one liner.
Also, I will add "&" and "|" (And & or) support later.

 

[SasuhKun]

CloudWolf, that's one of the best projects I've ever seen. I swear. And you have a lot of potential there. (You could even make it into a ORPG, if it is possible. A hero arena, cause the skills are awesome.) The spells, the ideas, the models, the icons, the terrain... it is everything so incredible. I don't even know how to start.

Since I just erased all of what I writed, I will resume. Everything is perfect, basically. I soloed with witch doctor only, which means you need not only to balance this, but also add a difficulty system: like this ->

Beginner: Only 1-2 first-time players. Too dumb to play with more players/more skill.

Easy: 1-2 pro. 3-4 newbie.

Medium: 1-2 very pro (like me! ) 3-4 pro, 5-6 newbie.

Hard: 3-4 very pro, 5-6 pro.

Extreme: For awesome players only. You can try to do this in 3-4 if you're very, very pro and if you soloed the game on hard difficulty. 5-6 very pro players, a very challenging mode. The-mode-if-not-only-want-a-challenge-but-also-to-hit-your-head-in-the-monitor-or-any-kind-of-frustation.

Keep expanding the territory, and also fix a problem in the inventory: the right hand does not work, which means I can only equip a weapon, or a shield. And can everyone use like two weapons, or two shields? Make the barbarian the only that can use 2 weapons. Since the monk does not use shields as long as I'm aware, make some two-handed weapons for him. And don't worry, I'll get this map hosted as DotA. It deserves to be so. Keep up the good work.

 

[Anachron]

Back off I’ll take you on
Headstrong to take on anyone
I know that you are wrong
Headstrong we’re Headstrong!

kinda nice music taste you got there.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. We're glad you like it.

 

[SasuhKun]

I just changed the signature xD

I forgot to mention, the background music is also great.

Edit: I forgot to mention, the music can only be heard if I deactivate and then activate music volume.

 

[Anachron]

Keep expanding the territory, and also fix a problem in the inventory: the right hand does not work, which means I can only equip a weapon, or a shield. And can everyone use like two weapons, or two shields? Make the barbarian the only that can use 2 weapons. Since the monk does not use shields as long as I'm aware, make some two-handed weapons for him. And don't worry, I'll get this map hosted as DotA. It deserves to be so. Keep up the good work.

About this:
I am currently making a new inventory system from scratch that won't bug anymore and will be able to make classbased equipments.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

so, the from-sratch-start-news also effect the 1.st-january-release-news ?

edit: dragonforce yay!

 

[redmarine]

so, the from-sratch-start-news also effect the 1.st-january-release-news ?

edit: dragonforce yay!

We scratched that idea. It wasn't feasible since we're all too busy with our daily lives.

What we are creating from scratch is the inventory. Anachron above has been working on a new improved architecture for the inventory. This will significantly improve our ability to more easily add new items for every new release. This also makes us able to use more types of items which was a huge problem with the old one.

@Anachron, keep it up. Hopefully you'll be done soon with your technical preview.

 

[SlayerII]

Hey
will you add something so you can evade projektilse like you could in D2(and probably you will can in D3)?
If you do so you could use the real slow time spell and not the crappy one you using now.

I also want to say that the map is lacking in replayplayability. After you played all classes it is getting boring quite fast. Thats cause there always the same and you cant make different char builds...

 

[Anachron]

We scratched that idea. It wasn't feasible since we're all too busy with our daily lives.

What we are creating from scratch is the inventory. Anachron above has been working on a new improved architecture for the inventory. This will significantly improve our ability to more easily add new items for every new release. This also makes us able to use more types of items which was a huge problem with the old one.

@Anachron, keep it up. Hopefully you'll be done soon with your technical preview.

Hey.

Well the from scratch thing does not affect the release of the beta of the inventory system at all.

still i will make it public on the 1st of january. i did not test the new from scratch made system, however i am quite confident that it will work as i thought.

the new module system will make much things easier, while the functionality will stay.
thanks alot for your patience.

 

[redmarine]

Hey
will you add something so you can evade projektilse like you could in D2(and probably you will can in D3)?
If you do so you could use the real slow time spell and not the crappy one you using now.

I also want to say that the map is lacking in replayplayability. After you played all classes it is getting boring quite fast. Thats cause there always the same and you cant make different char builds...

Well, we're going to implement different difficulty modes such as normal(current difficulty)), nightmare and hell.

We're also currently adding more optional paths for players to choose from as well as random mini paths. Although this will probably be implemented slowly throughout multiple versions.

 

[Vlemen]

Well, we're going to implement different difficulty modes such as normal(current difficulty)), nightmare and hell.

We're also currently adding more optional paths for players to choose from as well as random mini paths. Although this will probably be implemented slowly throughout multiple versions.

wow, the map will be updated again? yes I actually agree about this, adding some mode will be helpfull for newbies to play

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sorry for my bad english.

 

[Talamond]

Хм, это одна из самых лучших карт для WarCraft 3...
Я ставлю 4/5 потому что нет ничего идеального...
Классные текстуры...
Массовые бои...
То что надо...
I'm from Ukrain...

 

[redmarine]

Хм, это одна из самых лучших карт для WarCraft 3...
Я ставлю 4/5 потому что нет ничего идеального...
Классные текстуры...
Массовые бои...
То что надо...
I'm from Ukrain...

Well, thank you for your comment! It's nice to see someone from Ukrainian on Hiveworkshop.

Hmm, this is one of the best maps for WarCraft 3 ...
I put 4 / 5 because nothing is perfect ...
Cool texture ...
Massive battles ...
The fact that it is necessary ...

 

[Talamond]

Thank you redmarine, very pleasantly for attention...
I already sit in the editor of maps for 2 years...
Well in any way I can not create a map to the end...
Constantly new ideas climb in a head...

 

[CloudMax]

Thank you redmarine, very pleasantly for attention...
I already sit in the editor of maps for 2 years...
Well in any way I can not create a map to the end...
Constantly new ideas climb in a head...

We would never have reached this far with our map if we wasnt a team ^^
That could be one part to why it doesnt work for you.
I dont think that cloudwolf ever imagined that the map would get this big, but then i joined him and we climbed on to make it a even better map, and then more and more people came to help us
Some people pretend that we already reached the top, but you can always climb higher! Just keep that in head. If you really wanna do something, dont try to do it perfect at once, start easy and then make it better & better.

 

[Anachron]

Good news. The new (from scratch made) inventory system works fine, I guess there is nothing against releasing the beta to the 1st of January.

 

[redmarine]

Good news. The new (from scratch made) inventory system works fine, I guess there is nothing against releasing the beta to the 1st of January.

Release it as a part of our map or after the test?

 

[Anachron]

Well, I highly recommend testing it first, I may have unseen bugs, however, I will test it as much as I can. From next week I have 16 days holiday, hooray, so I have the time to make it very good.

 

[Darkbill3000]

A new class?! AWSOME! I can't wait to test it.