Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[redmarine]

hmm. how do i do that without attaching it to a post?

Here is the link to the service AKA pastebin: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php

You can chose to write a description or not. Choose a title for the pastebin and upload the file.

You can PM people the link from the pastebin once the file has been uploaded.

make map with vJass xD, don't use gui...
i hope don't need explanation on this?

We use both of them. I and LTGH have recently began to use vJass for some stuff.

 

[Darkholme]

Linked. Go check it out. look at the code, playtest it a bit.

Oh, it doesn't have your camera fix.

 

[redmarine]

Linked. Go check it out. look at the code, playtest it a bit.

Oh, it doesn't have your camera fix.

haha... no one has added the fix.

 

[Darkholme]

not quite. I added the fix and used it when testing the map, but it wasnt in the copy that I did all my editing in. lol

anyways.

Go Forth and test, and give me comments/sggestions/congratulations.

 

[redmarine]

not quite. I added the fix and used it when testing the map, but it wasnt in the copy that I did all my editing in. lol

anyways.

Go Forth and test, and give me comments/sggestions/congratulations.

First view.
Awesome job! Your triggers are pretty and look efficient.

Anyway, you should force the difficulty level to the number of players in the map. This should be automatic and not decidable. I'll roll more "comments/sggestions/congratulations" in a moment.

 

[Darkholme]

First view.
Awesome job! Your triggers are pretty and look efficient.

Anyway, you should force the difficulty level to the number of players in the map. This should be automatic and not decidable. I'll roll more "comments/sggestions/congratulations" in a moment.

Oh, I took my inspiration from d2. It is forced. You can only decide to make it harder.

 

[redmarine]

Oh, I took my inspiration from d2. It is forced. You can only decide to make it harder.

Okay but the trigger should be something like this.

• Untitled Trigger 002
  • Events
    • Map initialization
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set TempInt = 0
    • For each (Integer A) from 1 to 6, do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • ((Player((Integer A))) controller) Equal to User
          • Then - Actions
            • Set TempInt = (TempInt + 1)
          • Else - Actions
    • Trigger - Run Difficulty[TempInt] (checking conditions)

 

[Darkholme]

You're right, it should. I wasn't quite sure how to go about doing it. That will work nicely. and I'll have to go implement it.

 

[Darkholme]

what about the rest. Look at the mana system, and the Barbarian. go playtest the barbarian, tell me what you think of the revised system for rage, and whatnot.

 

[redmarine]

You're right, it should. I wasn't quite sure how to go about doing it. That will work nicely. and I'll have to go implement it.

My trigger easily allows change in difficulty incase a player leaves. It could then be called and it would ballance the game.

what about the rest. Look at the mana system, and the Barbarian. go playtest the barbarian, tell me what you think of the revised system for rage, and whatnot.

I really love all the triggers. Now I'm going to test the map.

 

[redmarine]

Just wanted to tell you that when I try to change the difficulty all the enemy units don't get any stronger nor weaker. Is this a bug?

 

[Darkholme]

Just wanted to tell you that when I try to change the difficulty all the enemy units don't get any stronger nor weaker. Is this a bug?

/Players 1 doesn't seem to work.

but yesterday I was testing the other difficulties and I found a huge difference in boss difficulty.

there is likely bugs in the current system though. less so if you implemented your changes when you showed me them.

 

[redmarine]

/Players 1 doesn't seem to work.

but yesterday I was testing the other difficulties and I found a huge difference in boss difficulty.

there is likely bugs in the current system though. less so if you implemented your changes when you showed me them.

I will incorporate the triggers but I won't enable them. I don't want to screw anything up until the map reaches you.

I'll look in the map again tomorrow. School tomorrow. Good night mate.

Btw, remember to fix the damn camera lol.

 

[Darkholme]

I probably wont get anything done in the next couple days. I'm leaving town for the weekend tomorrow morning and I won't be back until sunday night.

Later guys.

 

[Anachron]

Dear CloudWolf, I am atm making an RPG-Class System which gives fully control of the hero. It will work as followed:

Create Class
Set Classdata

Add Hero from Class
// The hero will get the classdata
Add Heropackages (Like REgeneration)

Thats it! Here some examples what it does:
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str per level for each class
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str for a short amount of time
- Change all classes heroes regeneration to whatever you want
- Basicly just do everything wc3 is not able to do, like freezing regeneration,
adding regeneration methods like Attack
- Allows you to have no mana at an hero, or simply use Rage or something like that which is gained each attack

What you need for this system:
- Change some of the WC3 Data to zero from Hero Attribute Gain (like HP, Mana each attribute)
- Add this system
- Add all classes of your map to the system (3, thats pretty easy)

To create a new hero and add the hero instantly to the classes herolist,
you would need to write in code: call HeroClasses.createHero('CLASSNAME', Player, X, Y, Facing)

Hope to hear from you. I think it would be damn nice for you, as you can use unlimited power for hero attributes now.

 

[CloudMax]

Dear CloudWolf, I am atm making an RPG-Class System which gives fully control of the hero. It will work as followed:

Create Class
Set Classdata

Add Hero from Class
// The hero will get the classdata
Add Heropackages (Like REgeneration)

Thats it! Here some examples what it does:
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str per level for each class
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str for a short amount of time
- Change all classes heroes regeneration to whatever you want
- Basicly just do everything wc3 is not able to do, like freezing regeneration,
adding regeneration methods like Attack
- Allows you to have no mana at an hero, or simply use Rage or something like that which is gained each attack

What you need for this system:
- Change some of the WC3 Data to zero from Hero Attribute Gain (like HP, Mana each attribute)
- Add this system
- Add all classes of your map to the system (3, thats pretty easy)

To create a new hero and add the hero instantly to the classes herolist,
you would need to write in code: call HeroClasses.createHero('CLASSNAME', Player, X, Y, Facing)

Hope to hear from you. I think it would be damn nice for you, as you can use unlimited power for hero attributes now.

To be honest... i dont get it.. The reason could be that i just woke up, idk.
Im just sitting here scratching my head.

And DOESNT ANYONE know that there is a freaking HUGE forum button at the top of the map description. we just get alot of stuff here when they can ask things like this there.

 

[Anachron]

If you don't get it, simply read it again.

Are you able to freeze a units regeneration from wc3? No.
Are you able to do actions per class in wc3? No
Are you able to change classdata in wc3? No.

This simply enhances wc3 with the great posibilty to do whatever you want with attributes/heroes/classes.

 

[CloudMax]

If you don't get it, simply read it again.

Are you able to freeze a units regeneration from wc3? No.
Are you able to do actions per class in wc3? No
Are you able to change classdata in wc3? No.

This simply enhances wc3 with the great posibilty to do whatever you want with attributes/heroes/classes.

ohhh.. I think i get it now.
But for what reason would we need this? x)

EDIT:
I am stupid...
I just got a few ideas in my head. Like freezing health regeneration it battle :]

 

[Anachron]

For example. You can do whatever you want.

There is always use, if you have the ability to do so.

Interested?

edit:
a few other things could be:
-> Barbarian only regenerates rage with attacking
-> Others do every X seconds
-> Barbarian degenerates rage
-> Endless regeneration types available

 

[CloudMax]

We will have to ask CW about it first.
And i think we have a lot of stuff to do atm..
And it just came into my mind... I forgot the roll system again O.O
I gonna start now so i dont forget it.

 

[Anachron]

A few other features would be that you are able to change every unitdata ingame, with effecting only a unit, class or all classes. It also allows you to simply create a new hero with the class you want by gaining a Herostruct, which is fully customizeable.

Packages will perfectly fit to the whole system, so its up to you what you need.

Feel free to ask questions and/or contact me.

BTW, I tried to post there, but I have no permission.

 

[CloudMax]

A few other features would be that you are able to change every unitdata ingame, with effecting only a unit, class or all classes. It also allows you to simply create a new hero with the class you want by gaining a Herostruct, which is fully customizeable.

Packages will perfectly fit to the whole system, so its up to you what you need.

Feel free to ask questions and/or contact me.

BTW, I tried to post there, but I have no permission.

Okey, your making me even more confused if you continue now.
Whats you MSN? i think its easier to talk there =D

 

[Anachron]

Okey, your making me even more confused if you continue now.
Whats you MSN? i think its easier to talk there =D

I wrote a PM with my MSN addy.
Its my biggest code I have ever started.. Wait, after the hero constructing of my Templar Arena. Noone beats 10.k Lines of full power!

 

[CloudMax]

Bah.. Everything gets corrupted as fast as i edit it.
And its all JassNewGen's fault! o.o
I cant really make any progress.
I gonna try to use an older version of JNGP soon as that may be the problem.

 

[redmarine]

Darkholme, what version of JassNewGen are you using? If it's 1.5 are you using the default version or have you made any changes? I'm having trouble saving with the editor. Tends to crash.

Dear CloudWolf, I am atm making an RPG-Class System which gives fully control of the hero. It will work as followed:

Create Class
Set Classdata

Add Hero from Class
// The hero will get the classdata
Add Heropackages (Like REgeneration)

Thats it! Here some examples what it does:
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str per level for each class
- Change the heroes Agy, Int or Str for a short amount of time
- Change all classes heroes regeneration to whatever you want
- Basicly just do everything wc3 is not able to do, like freezing regeneration,
adding regeneration methods like Attack
- Allows you to have no mana at an hero, or simply use Rage or something like that which is gained each attack

What you need for this system:
- Change some of the WC3 Data to zero from Hero Attribute Gain (like HP, Mana each attribute)
- Add this system
- Add all classes of your map to the system (3, thats pretty easy)

To create a new hero and add the hero instantly to the classes herolist,
you would need to write in code: call HeroClasses.createHero('CLASSNAME', Player, X, Y, Facing)

Hope to hear from you. I think it would be damn nice for you, as you can use unlimited power for hero attributes now.

Thanks for you offer but Darkholme has just added a somewhat similar system. If you'd like you could always upload your system and we might end up using a portion of it if we find need for it. You will ofc. be credited as an volenteer.

 

[Bwathke]

Looks very nice i havent been able to try it because I only have RoC but Im getting TFT very soon (In June) and Ill try it then cant wait

 

[ellimistrox]

Bug in Diablo!

I have just discovered a bug!
I was fighting the 1000 pounder boss, and was low on health, so i turned and ran. I was the berserker, and I turned and used the Ultimate Shock Wave type ability, which you gain with 5 fury points. I was standing on the bridge when I did this. It seems to have killed the bridge. The bridge dropped down, and I was unable to move off the bridge. Possible increase life of the bridge? I must have destroyed it somehow, and was very annoyed as i was stuck, and could not continue.

 

[saphiree]

Hey! New Blizz just updated beastary. This new unit was added http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/world/bestiary/thefallen.xml I rly hope you guys put it in too But you dont have to, as its not in the gameplay video, and you dont have all the other units from beastary in the map.

Anyway, i hope you put this fella in

 

[The_Silent]

Hey! New Blizz just updated beastary. This new unit was added http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/world/bestiary/thefallen.xml I rly hope you guys put it in too But you dont have to, as its not in the gameplay video, and you dont have all the other units from beastary in the map.

Anyway, i hope you put this fella in

Oh i like those, they're in Diablo II too xD

 

[saphiree]

Yeah And theres more of em. I like the hounds. They would be awesome to have

 

[The_Silent]

Yeah And theres more of em. I like the hounds. They would be awesome to have

Personally i like the lunatic...
But anyway, they'll be very hard to put into a warcraft III map, since they all need custom models which don't exist currently...

 

[Ferezin]

Please, dont even think to stop doing this map
You are doing a great job guys.. Keep like these.
Thanks for the map!

 

[redmarine]

LTGH be happy! I got great news.

I've talked to a manager of Garena regarding the map. He brought the subject regarding the logo to the higher "ups" and they agreed on that matter that we could be an exception. This means you(CloudWolf) don't have to add any logo on the loadingscreen.

CloudWolf, if you'd like you could host(it might be a bit different from hosting on the hive btw) your map on Garena without actually advertising Garena. It's a win-win.

Oh, btw here is a quote:

It's okay. Sure. I've talked with the higher ups about this and they said it's okay not to have the logos or anything.
They're okay with being affiliates on the project website.
win-win.
If you guys confirm it's a go, then we'll have the site managers work on it right away.

 

[CloudMax]

LTGH be happy! I got great news.

I've talked to a manager of Garena regarding the map. He brought the subject regarding the logo to the higher "ups" and they agreed on that matter that we could be an exception. This means you(CloudWolf) don't have to add any logo on the loadingscreen.

CloudWolf, if you'd like you could host(it might be a bit different from hosting on the hive btw) your map on Garena without actually advertising Garena. It's a win-win.

Oh, btw here is a quote:

That for sure is a win-win =D
I always ask my friends to play on garena so i do advertise them actually

 

[CloudWolf]

LTGH be happy! I got great news.

I've talked to a manager of Garena regarding the map. He brought the subject regarding the logo to the higher "ups" and they agreed on that matter that we could be an exception. This means you(CloudWolf) don't have to add any logo on the loadingscreen.

CloudWolf, if you'd like you could host(it might be a bit different from hosting on the hive btw) your map on Garena without actually advertising Garena. It's a win-win.

Oh, btw here is a quote:

Im certainly up for it It would be nice to get the extra coverage on the map

Sorry for not talking much recently, I've been busy I'll be back on monday though

 

[redmarine]

Im certainly up for it It would be nice to get the extra coverage on the map

Sorry for not talking much recently, I've been busy I'll be back on monday though

Awesome! I'll just let them know and give them details on how to contact you.

 

[redmarine]

CloudWolf, would it be any good if we actually protected official map and just made the open-sourced version available as a secondary download?

Just a thought as it would allow us to use WinOptimizer 4.8 to reduce the map's filesize even more and by that adding more content.

Edit: I tested the optimizer on the version DarkHolm.
I managed to reduce the filesize from 3,56 MB down to 3,01 MB. Pretty much 15% reduction in filesize.

 

[saphiree]

Hmm, if you do it you should certanly make an official version of the map too, because this map was meant to be open source as far as i know. But as the tool safe you 50mb then i think its a go. It would make you aviable to add much more cool stuff in the map

 

[CloudMax]

I have always wanted the map to be protected actually xP
Since i dont want my triggers to be open source.
It is made for this map, and i want it to stay in this map.
If people is stupid enough to de-protect a map to edit it, they are no-lifers and i cant do anything about that.
So id say, Protect it and leave 1.17 unprotected and protect 1.18
It is a HUGE difference between 1.17 and 1.18. So much new and changed stuff.

 

[saphiree]

hmm. I dont like that :/ I wouldnt copy your maps anyway, and deprotect SUCKS! But i like to see what you did, and learn from my mistakes, by looking at your stuff.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Optimizing/protecting the map also cuts the map size and loading times down. So you should actually do that.

I take example from Dota (...), its one of the biggest maps around Battle.net, but in the loadingscreen is just takes 5 to 20 seconds (based on computers) to load. Some random RPGs around Battle.net can take one to two minutes...

But atm your map's file size is big mostly because of the models and that doesnt increase the loading time a lot.

 

[redmarine]

Optimizing/protecting the map also cuts the map size and loading times down. So you should actually do that.

I take example from Dota (...), its one of the biggest maps around Battle.net, but in the loadingscreen is just takes 5 to 20 seconds (based on computers) to load. Some random RPGs around Battle.net can take one to two minutes...

But atm your map's file size is big mostly because of the models and that doesnt increase the loading time a lot.

If I'm not mistaken DotA not optimized is like 8 MB. Crazy stuff...

I have always wanted the map to be protected actually xP
Since i dont want my triggers to be open source.
It is made for this map, and i want it to stay in this map.
If people is stupid enough to de-protect a map to edit it, they are no-lifers and i cant do anything about that.
So id say, Protect it and leave 1.17 unprotected and protect 1.18
It is a HUGE difference between 1.17 and 1.18. So much new and changed stuff.

I understand your concern but it has been one of the main goals of this map to be open-sourced. Not to mention it's pretty unique for a map on this scale and popularity.

There are too many pros and cons in such a decision so CloudWolf has to make the decision.

hmm. I dont like that :/ I wouldnt copy your maps anyway, and deprotect SUCKS! But i like to see what you did, and learn from my mistakes, by looking at your stuff.

I think that's one of the strongest pros in a open-sourced maps. But consider this, this map is getting an insanely large amount of poplizity all across the internet and may soon be hosted on Garena. Garena users are pretty unknowing when it comes to custom map versions beside DotA and are easily tricked into playing versions which give an unfair advantage for the host.

Anyway to somethind different.
I've created a poll regarding what you would like to be the Archivist's role in the map
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...chivist-regarding-his-role-in-the-map-128874/
Vote.

 

[Ranger21]

If you make rpg for garena - protect map xD

 

[saphiree]

Isnt Garena kinda fucked? So i guess its better just to protect it in that case

 

[Ranger21]

I guess too....

Protect need if you release map with save load codes

There also some ways to protect map from adding cheattriggers and way to protect map from MPQ(but this only against noobs)

 

[Darkholme]

Hey Guys, I just got back, but im still kindof wiped. We don't need the hero system, unless we end up needing a system to spontaneously change stats.

I actually set up my own regen system last week. Presently It's just for mana, so that the barbarian gets mana via attacking instead of over time, but if they wanted it for hp I could easily copy my script and change the stat to health from mana and alter as necessary.

your system would prove quite cool for a map with multiclassing, but we can kindof do that already.

Also, if you guys want me to add the option to pause the regens, that's quite doable, i'll just insert 2 flags for each hero and you can set them on or off whenever necessary.

 

[redmarine]

Also, if you guys want me to add the option to pause the regens, that's quite doable, i'll just insert 2 flags for each hero and you can set them on or off whenever necessary.

Perhaps a global boolean array variable? It would make stuff very easy.

 

[Darkholme]

well, i was going to have 2 global real array variables. 1 for hp and one for mana.

set it to 0 for pause
1 for normal behavior (regen)
-1 for drain

then you can also have things speed it up or slow it down.

 

[Anachron]

Hmm well but those things are not the only thing you can do in my system. I am also currently working on the Spells package, meaning you can accept easily to each heroes spell with this mega-object. Also How do you stop regeneration? Just add an -100% regen or what? And negative is -200% ?? Thats wouldn't be that good. With using the event a units health changed its triggered to often for me I think. You don't need to use my classsystem, but you'll see it makes life much easier.

 

[Darkholme]

Also How do you stop regeneration? Just add an -100% regen or what? And negative is -200% ?? Thats wouldn't be that good. With using the event a units health changed its triggered to often for me I think. You don't need to use my classsystem, but you'll see it makes life much easier.

Umm, that's definitely not how I did it. I ditched the wc3 system for regen completely, and scripted one myself. negative would be -100%, stopping it would be a zero, in which case I would have it skip the line where it alters health.

We may use pieces of your system if we see something we could use that we dont have, but we have alot of our own stuff done already, and to be honest, in-house might be a better way for us to go anyways because then it's exactly what we want and how we want.

It's up to CW, but we have our own regen functions already.