Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Doron]

I'm using a different JassNewGen, the one made by MindWorx, so it could be that I need to download the one you have.

Is it possible that all the changes you made in the regular WE broke it and youre trying to use the broken copy with JNGP?

Like I said, to be sure it's NOT the changes that I made, I simply opened the 1.17 version, and saved it without making ANY changes, and it still gave me a whole bunch of errors.

And the ones causing the errors CloudWolf, are all the JASS triggers. CamLock especially. The triggers that turn CamLock on and off, are one of the prime examples of what happens. Go to like, the Skeleton King intro, look at the trigger. It says something along the lines of "Set CamLock off" or something, then at the end it turns it on, whenever the Skeleton King cinematic is over.

But yeah. It's most likely because I need to download the same version of JassNewGen you are using.

 

[Darkholme]

I'm using the new version, and I have no issues. JNGP 1.5 My suggestion would be to check the menus at the top, if I recall correctly you can actually turn off vjass up there, and if its not on nothing that uses new stuff will save properly.

 

[GLB]

I've got one off-topic question (sorry):
How did you make this nice youtube video. Did you make it with the windows movie maker? Actually, it could be quite useful to present spells or to show game play as you guys did. Last night, I've been looking up for this on google aso. but I found nothin'.

And one topic question:
I am testing your map (but alone it's a bit difficult, I die a lot) and I wondered if you put mercenaries in your game or not. You know, like the real Diablo. My mercenary in Diablo was so helpful ^^

 

[CloudWolf]

I've got one off-topic question (sorry):
How did you make this nice youtube video. Did you make it with the windows movie maker? Actually, it could be quite useful to present spells or to show game play as you guys did. Last night, I've been looking up for this on google aso. but I found nothin'.

And one topic question:
I am testing your map (but alone it's a bit difficult, I die a lot) and I wondered if you put mercenaries in your game or not. You know, like the real Diablo. My mercenary in Diablo was so helpful ^^

I used a peice of software called Adobe Premier It works a bit like flash really, where you can drag/drop stuff onto a timeline, then add special effects to it However, it is not free software, but you can normally get a good discount if your a student Thats what I did lol

As for mercenaries, I'll have to think about that. While they could be fun, I dont want to take the focus away from the main hero Plus I wouldnt want to give anyone an unfair advantage when using them in pvp :/ However, there will be quite a few NPC characters that will help you in some of the quests in later maps, you can be sure of that

 

[saphiree]

I've got one off-topic question (sorry):
How did you make this nice youtube video. Did you make it with the windows movie maker? Actually, it could be quite useful to present spells or to show game play as you guys did. Last night, I've been looking up for this on google aso. but I found nothin'.

And one topic question:
I am testing your map (but alone it's a bit difficult, I die a lot) and I wondered if you put mercenaries in your game or not. You know, like the real Diablo. My mercenary in Diablo was so helpful ^^

plz, next time you wanna go off-topic. Use PM or write at the creators profile. Reason i dont do that now, is that all should be aware of this.

 

[Doron]

Ok. Sadly, I tried getting the same JassNewGen as you have, but it still fails.

Here is the link to the FIRST one I tried with your map: http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=90999

And this is the one that I just now tried that is supposed to be the one that you use: http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=73936

To be more helpful, here's a screenshot of what's happening in both JassNewGens when I try to save.



And no, this is not happening just because I made another area, or added triggers, or created items. It still does it when I try to save the regular Diablo 1.17 map. I do have one thing to ask of you though, don't slow down the project just because of this. It'd be great if we could find out why it's doing this, but v1.18 is more important.

EDIT: I saw this, maybe this is it?

Yes, except for Grimoire's war3err/japi. If you need those too, then I'd suggest a dual install fo War3, one patched to 1.22 for bnet play and one patched to 1.21 for development.

Do I need to do that? Are you using 1.21 in order to edit the map?

 

[Darkholme]

Well I'm not. I started editing it in 1.21 but i edited it a couple times with the new version too. You might have vJass turned off. There is a toggle in a menu somewhere. Sorry I cant be more helpful but I dont have it installed on this PC.

 

[Doron]

Yeah...that could possibly be it, but I don't see any toggle for vJass, Unless it's JassHelper, I have that turned on.

 

[morguhl]

wait for 1.18 go on !

 

[Darkholme]

I reformatted my Lappy last night. the cd drive is tempermental so it took about 8 tries cause the windows install kept failing. I'm going to go install WC3 now and then I'm going to see what I can do about getting some work done on 1.18. Then I'll email my progress to CW.

 

[Darkholme]

Hey guys, I stumbled across what appears to be the next class to be put in d3. It hasn't been announced or anything, and they don't have any links to it from the other pages, but the page is there and it looks like the pages for the other three classes. has a few of the class abilities too.

Anyone care for a spoiler & a link?

Scratch that, it was an elaborate april fools joke. lol

Well even though it was an elaborate hoax, we should totally include the class. it would rock.

This guys is by far the coolest class ever.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/archivist.xml

We need to have one. *pant*

 

[redmarine]

Hey guys, I stumbled across what appears to be the next class to be put in d3. It hasn't been announced or anything, and they don't have any links to it from the other pages, but the page is there and it looks like the pages for the other three classes. has a few of the class abilities too.

Anyone care for a spoiler & a link?

Scratch that, it was an elaborate april fools joke. lol

Well even though it was an elaborate hoax, we should totally include the class. it would rock.

This guys is by far the coolest class ever.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/archivist.xml

We need to have one. *pant*

We've discussed it for quite some time now and if I remember correctly we didn't want to include him as a real hero. LTGH and CloudWolf are the ones taking care of all the "core mechanics"

 

[Darkholme]

Ah. I have a better difficulty system based on the number of players set up, and I was going to do the things I pointed out that are issues with the barbarian next. If that would be a waste of time, then I guess I shouldnt do it.

Enh, whatever. I'll do it anyways and if it gets used then it gets used

 

[WatsoN]

The Best map ever . seriously

 

[Necroidshaman]

Why did you choose to use a mauntain gaint for the unburied. unburied really look like the abominations especially with those spikes. for the grotesques you could use facelass or unbroken skinns. for the rest it's super cool !!!!
But a bit easy. I came till the skeleton king on my own. during the fight with him i used cheats to explore the rest of the map.
In the spawn time of the mongrels there still stand feral spirit. And why did you used murlocs for the ghouls. why not just.........euhhhmmm ghouls.
Also i don't like the skin of the mongrels (fel stalker). I do not know a better skin maybe a quilbeast or something. For the rest it is a really good game. I just though everybody already said it was awesome so i wanted to break your ego a little bid But still I have to say it to it is really and i mean really awesome.
Hope it's not going to be better then the real diablo 3 haha. 5/5 for you.

use these as your ghouls http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/diablo-iii-warcraft-606/new-ghoul-skin-127613/

 

[Spitfire112]

Well even though it was an elaborate hoax, we should totally include the class. it would rock.

This guys is by far the coolest class ever.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/archivist.xml

We need to have one. *pant*

I think you should add the Archivist in, totally. It would be so cool

 

[CloudMax]

•He would not fit in.
•He only have 3 spells.
•He is not an official playable character.
•We have been talking about this one million times before.

That is a few reasons to why we are not going to add him.

 

[Darkholme]

we dont have the exact abilities for the other characters, making up a couple more wouldn't make much difference. lol.

 

[CloudMax]

We are working on remaking the spells.
And this map is suppost to be based on the game.. And not the april fools.

 

[Gummifrog]

Some i know have done this map 2 persons balance ? but i will still give it 4 or 5

 

[Darkholme]

I know this won't be part of the major project, but a mod of this (closer to when it's finished) that has all of the classes from diablo 1 & 2 as well, even if they have to be a bit different to fit in with the classes we have here, would be absolutely awesome.

Amazon, Assassin, Barbarian, Bard, Druid, Monk, Necromancer, Paladin, Rogue, Sorceress, Warrior, Witch Doctor, Wizard. and maybe Archivist.

I know it's outside the scope of this project, just saying, it would be awesome.

 

[redmarine]

I know this won't be part of the major project, but a mod of this (closer to when it's finished) that has all of the classes from diablo 1 & 2 as well, even if they have to be a bit different to fit in with the classes we have here, would be absolutely awesome.

Amazon, Assassin, Barbarian, Bard, Druid, Monk, Necromancer, Paladin, Rogue, Sorceress, Warrior, Witch Doctor, Wizard. and maybe Archivist.

I know it's outside the scope of this project, just saying, it would be awesome.

Even though it would be nice I hihgly doubt we will do it. We're copying Diablo III not the entire series.

Btw, we might even end up reducing the amount of players down to 5.

 

[Necroidshaman]

How can you change anything in the map self or even save the map so you can play it on lan or battle.net. I would love to play this with other people. but everytime i want to save it i get an error and i can't play the game. Is i secured or what?
please help!!
I can test the map but than i can only play on my own

 

[Darkholme]

I noticed. Can someone give me CW's email so I can email him what I've been working on? I haven't seen him around, and havent gotten the email address yet.

The reason for the player reduction is to have the same number of players as character types right?

 

[CloudMax]

The reason for the player reduction is to have the same number of players as character types right?

That is one reason.

Also, if he read he's mail, he will most likely also read he's PMs here.

But i wonder.. he said that he was going to be much more active from now on but he is not active at all

 

[redmarine]

Darkholme, just PM him the files via Hiveworkshop's online storage service.

That is one reason.

Also, if he read he's mail, he will most likely also read he's PMs here.

But i wonder.. he said that he was going to be much more active from now on but he is not active at all

Well, things can change. I highly doubt that just because he's done with his examn he'll be available more often. I think he could be hanging out with his friends, girlfriend, performing, doing gigs... and the list goes on.

 

[Darkholme]

Hey. I recall a Map that had distributable attribute points, like you get x points per level. It was in an AoS Map. any chance we could use a system like that? It's very diablo-esque.

 

[CloudMax]

Hey. I recall a Map that had distributable attribute points, like you get x points per level. It was in an AoS Map. any chance we could use a system like that? It's very diablo-esque.

We was thinking of that before actually.
But first we have to finish the stuff we are working on right now..
What am i working on?..

 

[redmarine]

Hey. I recall a Map that had distributable attribute points, like you get x points per level. It was in an AoS Map. any chance we could use a system like that? It's very diablo-esque.

Hm..., LTGH worked on such a system. Originally it was placed next to the inventory but now when I think about it... We could actually use the ressurection slots for attribution.
Top = Strength
Middle = Agility
Bottom = Intelligence
You get the idea.

The gold will represent the amount of attribution points you can spend.

We was thinking of that before actually.
But first we have to finish the stuff we are working on right now..
What am i working on?..

You were working on the item distribution system. Basically a loot system.

I am going to work on a multiboard not sure if it is going to be released any time soon.

 

[CloudMax]

Ohh right..
And i got stuck on the math thing.
Maybe i should just redo everything and make it next to the inventory? That seems to be our best chooice actually :S

 

[redmarine]

Ohh right..
And i got stuck on the math thing.
Maybe i should just redo everything and make it next to the inventory? That seems to be our best chooice actually :S

Or... We could just randomly assign the item to any player who is capable of carrying the item. But for now just make it in the inventory.

 

[CloudMax]

Or... We could just randomly assign the item to any player who is capable of carrying the item. But for now just make it in the inventory.

I'll start tommorow. But i will be kind of bussy. Have to buy a M3DS Real tommorow and some other stuff.
I will do my best!

 

[Darkholme]

the stat system I saw replaced your standard items box until you used the points. I think it was in LoTaL.

I've got some cool progress I could send you guys if you'd like to see it.
I've been working on mana systems, and difficulty settings, and levelup.
I also re-pointed all of the barbarian's mana related stats, and turned off wc3 mana regen.
It's pretty sweet. I really like the Barbarian Rage now.

Also you guys need to start to comment your work. Not only would it help me figure out what things do when I build on top of stuff that's already done, but it would make it easier figuring out what to do to combine them together since we're working in parallel.

Can you guys give me your contact info and ill send you the map?

 

[CloudMax]

We can not use the regular inventory for that :/
And why just have the 3 regular stats? We can have custom ones.
But first we need to know what stats it is in diablo 3 O,..,o maybe they already said that but i dont know anything about it.

Darkholme
Mail: [email protected] (Im online on MSN when my computer is on, but im always on hide(now i willl get spammed by redmarine))
Skype: LTGH (never online)
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Battle.net Europe: LTGH (almost never online)
Hiveworkshop.com: LTGH (DUUUHHHHHH.....)

 

[Darkholme]

I dunno I guess I just assumed we would only use the 3 regular stats. lol. I dont see a need for custom stats, I think that's just extra work with no benefit.

I'll email you the map in about 10 minutes, I have some changes im making to the respawn to make it more consistent, and after its done ill send out the email. If Redscores could give his email then id send it to him too.

While I haven't changed the X Lives thing, I should note that I really dislike it. It's not diablo-esque.

 

[redmarine]

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Just send me the map over. I'd like to see the changes.

I dunno I guess I just assumed we would only use the 3 regular stats. lol. I dont see a need for custom stats, I think that's just extra work with no benefit.

I'll email you the map in about 10 minutes, I have some changes im making to the respawn to make it more consistent, and after its done ill send out the email. If Redscores could give his email then id send it to him too.

If you haven't fixed the camera already you can find the fix in the bugreport section.

 

[Darkholme]

ok. umm, also

its taking longer, cause the menu where you select a unit or a unit variable takes about 30 seconds to lead each time and i have to look at it like 30 times.

 

[redmarine]

ok. umm, also

its taking longer, cause the menu where you select a unit or a unit variable takes about 30 seconds to lead each time and i have to look at it like 30 times.

Hm... Care to alaborate a bit? I didn't design the pick triggers.

 

[Darkholme]

also, do you have Ladik's MPQ editor working? I tried to redownload it and the one im finding online crashes whenever i try to open an mpq.

Oh. Its the dialog box for selecting units, the one with "triggering unit, picked unit" etc. it takes like 30 seconds to load each time and i have to do it 10 times for each player. -_-

 

[redmarine]

also, do you have Ladik's MPQ editor working? I tried to redownload it and the one im finding online crashes whenever i try to open an mpq.

Oh. Its the dialog box for selecting units, the one with "triggering unit, picked unit" etc. it takes like 30 seconds to load each time and i have to do it 10 times for each player. -_-

I'm clueless when it comes to MPQ editing but I do know how they work.

Dialog box? I don't recall a dialog box in the map. Could you tell me which trigger uses it? It might be something new CloudWolf has added which isn't in any other versions.

 

[Darkholme]

The dialog box in the editor takes 30 seconds to load and i need to do it like 70 times.

I understand MPQ editing too. Thats not the issue, I just cant get the editor to work. It used to work fine and now it doesnt.

 

[redmarine]

The dialog box in the editor takes 30 seconds to load and i need to do it like 70 times.

I understand MPQ editing too. Thats not the issue, I just cant get the editor to work. It used to work fine and now it doesnt.

Hm... Why do you even need dialog boxes? They kinda suck and are an annoyance.

Somehow my version of the map is constantly crasing. Need to retrieve another map lol.

 

[Darkholme]

I'm using GUI instead of writing in vJass. the whole thing is just a series of dialog boxes. ow do you not understand this? lol

 

[redmarine]

I'm using GUI instead of writing in vJass. the whole thing is just a series of dialog boxes. ow do you not understand this? lol

Lol... Now I'm scratching my head. What exacltly are you doing? Are you comparing GUI with dialog boxes? GUI ain't that slow... Some of the GUI functions are a tat slower than scripts but you can't in almost all cases feel the difference.

Edit: You mean writing GUI Dialogs in GUI? Those can take some time lol. Why are you using GUI for that?

 

[Darkholme]

Jesus Christ. youre making me want to stab you.

This Dialog Box.

takes forever to load

anyways, I'm sending you what I have now

 

[redmarine]

Jesus Christ. youre making me want to stab you.

This Dialog Box.

takes forever to load

anyways, I'm sending you what I have now

Haha lol. This reminds me of that time LTGH and I kinda had a communication problem regarding the editor. Those were days...

 

[Darkholme]

lol. im still waiting on the email. apparently it takes a long time to send 3.5 mb.

 

[redmarine]

lol. im still waiting on the email. apparently it takes a long time to send 3.5 mb.

You could also just use Hive's storage service. It efficiently uploads and stores the map so it is only available to people with the link to it. That way you won't need to upload it many times to different people.

The rest of the team uses it.

 

[Darkholme]

hmm. how do i do that without attaching it to a post?

 

[Ranger21]

make map with vJass xD, don't use gui...
i hope don't need explanation on this?