Desolation - Models

[Zhall]

So... Whats up with custom models... Everyone everywhere is like, oh thats impossible.

Custom icons, loading screens, map previews, unit sound sets, music, (probably texture overwriting), are all quite easy... why aren't models coming along? Its been 32 days..

Answer: 32 days

When did the first custom model hit warcraft 3? like 2004-2005?

 

[L2love]

Well making custom things is harder now then it use to be in Wc3 and there is also by my understanding no place to upload them well at least for the hive and I also no of know way to import a custom thing into Sc2 editor.

 

[Statharas]

.-.

It's because models can't function properly. And the fact that the models are REALLY high poly. I heard that the Thor has more than 3 million. Or thousand, was it..?

 

[Hawkwing]

The poly count isn't absolutely ridiculous, but it makes Warcraft 3 look like shit, that's for sure. I guess distribution of model files and the complexity of Sc2 models versus the complexity of Wc3 models all factor into why there's hardly any out there yet.

 

[TKF]

There's no point of importing models, as they would increase your mapsize with several MB and there's a limit of 10mb if I don't recall wrong.

So there's no point of importing models unless you want it to be extremely crappy, which never would be approved due to the high graphics in SC2.

 

[mrzwach]

You can use mods to avert the 10mb limit. :\

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Models range from 100KB to 1-2 MB roughly. That means while SC2 models are high quality, you can still make triangled heads, hands an muscles if you like and it will be around 100KB. But I wouldnt like seeing that.

Wasnt there an assets file of the map that can store as many MBs as you like, just needing the map to load it.

 

[Zhall]

3 million. QUOTE]

No way.

If it was for the ingame cinematics then maybe,

but for a boxy robot no way.. 3 million polies would instantly crash the game if you had more than 2-3 thors

Just because its starcraft 2 doesnt mean its not an rts game, which have to pull back on graphics for obvious reasons.

 

[Devious_Machine]

DoW2 didn't lower their graphics for being a rts

 

[Dr Super Good]

Average SC2 model is between 2 and 4 MB.

That includes 3 or 4 texture layers and 3 or 4 models. 1 being the main model and the other 3 being various deaths.

The thor has 13000 vertexes.

 

[gmgo]

I assume we are not even talking portraits yet hahaha.

 

[Weep]

why aren't models coming along?

AFAIK, Blizzard hasn't released an art tool kit for SC2 yet and no 3rd party has made an exporter that lets an artist save a model to the format SC2 uses, making it literally impossible to create custom models for SC2.

I might be wrong, if I just haven't noticed it happen somewhere.

 

[Triceron]

Actually custom models have been in the game since mid-beta. An .m3 exporter exists, and supports many features for SC2 including models, shaders and animation. The same author of the exporter has made importer/exporters for 3ds Max that support Warcraft 3 and WoW models as well.

SC2mapster.com is the new hub. I've been to quite a few SC2 modding sites, and many of the people from other sites now use it. Hive will forever be the War3 Database, but SC2mapster is where it's at for SC2.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

AFAIK, Blizzard hasn't released an art tool kit for SC2 yet and no 3rd party has made an exporter that lets an artist save a model to the format SC2 uses, making it literally impossible to create custom models for SC2.

I might be wrong, if I just haven't noticed it happen somewhere.

http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/m3-export-plugin-3ds-max/ Ive seen in beta

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/reaver-47335/?prev=search=reaver&d=list&r=20&c=13

And some WoW werewolf. Also Blender which will be 'the new Milkshape'

http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/blender-m3-plugin/ (just importer)

 

[bobobo878]

Are there any programs for opening Starcraft 2 mpq's like "Warcraft 3 viewer"?

 

[Arhowk]

http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

You can open SCII MPQs even with war3 model editor.