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A brief overview.
Here is the Wikipedia article on peak oil.
To answer critics: It might happen. That is enough reason to take action. Gamble with your life on your own time.
It is important to realize that if a grassroots movement is successful, that is, if we manage to do it, the negative effects that people may doubt can be stopped. If we do it and we don't see oil decline effects, then that does not mean the skeptics were right, or that we overreacted, but can easily mean that we actually stopped it.
Oil is going to start depleting. This is fact. The question of when is not entirely answered. With the number of experts saying that it is going to start very soon, if it hasn't already started, I'm going to start acting like it is. Remember how experts talk and nobody listens and bad thing happen? Yeah, I'd like to not take my chances this time and not have bad things happen as a result.
If we do not do anything to change, we will not be able to do everything we want with oil, if anything. If we go with an organized collapse, which is unlikely in the event of a collapse at this point, then we would not come to a full stop in activities involving oil. We would instead partition our oil to that which is absolutely necessary. We would cut back on luxuries first. This means no internet. Yeah. You heard me. NO INTERNET. This means, from your perspective, that we are dead. Everyone on the internet dead, and you did nothing about it. Thanks a lot.
The likelihood that a collapse is controlled approaches zero as the population increases. In the event that billions of people are uncontrollable, everything that relies on oil will collapse at once. At this point you might want to wonder exactly how it is that you are fed. I'm willing to bet good money that your food production relies in some way on oil. For example, does your local farmer use a tractor that runs on gas? When he can't run his tractor, how much food can he make? I, for one, like to eat food. It tastes good and delays death.
This problem cannot be solved by any amount of government or money. No regulations or funding will allow our way of life to continue. When oil starts to deplete, government will not be able to produce oil, and neither will money. It will simply disappear. Government and money will completely fail us. It's not a matter of anarchy or agalmics sending "civilization" back hundreds or years. We will simply not be able to do it. Forget government and money. We will not possess the ability to live this way.
What do we do, when our government and money fails us?
But of course. We do what we have always done and will always do. We will take things into our own hands. For the sake of your survival, I strongly suggest that you make damn sure that you, and the people around you, are able to sustain yourselves. Your government and money will not be able to.
In recent years my mother has taken up participation in the local community. I have instructed her to force this movie upon the people of the community, because, "I have to live here, damn it!" Seriously, force people at gunpoint or something. Your life depends on it.
While you're at it, you might want to ensure that your community will have locally generated reliable electricity. You might also ensure that your ISP has electricity. Don't die on me.
You might also experiment with preaching/practicing agalmics and/or anarchy. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it!
Above all else, we don't want the Amish gloating.
Disclaimer:
This is a message to the people of The United States of America. People in other countries might head this caution, but I'm focusing on the USA because I know the laws. If your country restricts you from doing what you need to save your life, I don't know what to tell you besides, "Yeah, you might want to fix that. I suggest grassroots consented anarchy."
Here is the Wikipedia article on peak oil.
To answer critics: It might happen. That is enough reason to take action. Gamble with your life on your own time.
It is important to realize that if a grassroots movement is successful, that is, if we manage to do it, the negative effects that people may doubt can be stopped. If we do it and we don't see oil decline effects, then that does not mean the skeptics were right, or that we overreacted, but can easily mean that we actually stopped it.
Oil is going to start depleting. This is fact. The question of when is not entirely answered. With the number of experts saying that it is going to start very soon, if it hasn't already started, I'm going to start acting like it is. Remember how experts talk and nobody listens and bad thing happen? Yeah, I'd like to not take my chances this time and not have bad things happen as a result.
If we do not do anything to change, we will not be able to do everything we want with oil, if anything. If we go with an organized collapse, which is unlikely in the event of a collapse at this point, then we would not come to a full stop in activities involving oil. We would instead partition our oil to that which is absolutely necessary. We would cut back on luxuries first. This means no internet. Yeah. You heard me. NO INTERNET. This means, from your perspective, that we are dead. Everyone on the internet dead, and you did nothing about it. Thanks a lot.
The likelihood that a collapse is controlled approaches zero as the population increases. In the event that billions of people are uncontrollable, everything that relies on oil will collapse at once. At this point you might want to wonder exactly how it is that you are fed. I'm willing to bet good money that your food production relies in some way on oil. For example, does your local farmer use a tractor that runs on gas? When he can't run his tractor, how much food can he make? I, for one, like to eat food. It tastes good and delays death.
This problem cannot be solved by any amount of government or money. No regulations or funding will allow our way of life to continue. When oil starts to deplete, government will not be able to produce oil, and neither will money. It will simply disappear. Government and money will completely fail us. It's not a matter of anarchy or agalmics sending "civilization" back hundreds or years. We will simply not be able to do it. Forget government and money. We will not possess the ability to live this way.
What do we do, when our government and money fails us?
But of course. We do what we have always done and will always do. We will take things into our own hands. For the sake of your survival, I strongly suggest that you make damn sure that you, and the people around you, are able to sustain yourselves. Your government and money will not be able to.
In recent years my mother has taken up participation in the local community. I have instructed her to force this movie upon the people of the community, because, "I have to live here, damn it!" Seriously, force people at gunpoint or something. Your life depends on it.
While you're at it, you might want to ensure that your community will have locally generated reliable electricity. You might also ensure that your ISP has electricity. Don't die on me.
You might also experiment with preaching/practicing agalmics and/or anarchy. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it!
Above all else, we don't want the Amish gloating.
Disclaimer:
This is a message to the people of The United States of America. People in other countries might head this caution, but I'm focusing on the USA because I know the laws. If your country restricts you from doing what you need to save your life, I don't know what to tell you besides, "Yeah, you might want to fix that. I suggest grassroots consented anarchy."
