COLOR TD v2.6

[Moderator]

02:55, 31st Jul 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[T-s-G]

Excuse me, but isnt the preview photo taken from Azeroth Poker?

 

[avunaos]

its a poker image i took from google... i think its a wallpaper from pokerstars
dont really know

 

[Bumkt]

Just checking to see if you are aware that there already is a poker td.

 

[avunaos]

mmm i dunno... it came from an own idea... if tehre is another already, i wil have to change the name :S i didnt check it

 

[FrozenFenrir]

mmm i dunno... it came from an own idea... if tehre is another already, i wil have to change the name :S i didnt check it

yep
"poker td" exists like dunno... 3 or more years and was pretty popular on the bnet.

 

[busterkomo]

This is my review of Poke td [beta].

Pros:
-Scalable difficulties.
-The range checker was quite cool, I admit.
-The ideas of towers for sole purpose of building mazes was quite cool.
-The maximum number of towers helped this map differ from other TDs.

Cons:
-The ALL CAPS at the beginning seemed unnecessary.
-While terrain isn't extremely important in a TD, there was definitely room for improvement.
-A lot of the map was unused. Not much you can do about that now, though.

Rating: 3.0 and recommended for approval.

 

[avunaos]

Con 1: I made this for noobs, but you are right, i will remove those CAPS and make a little text for noobs after they choose dificulty

Con 2: Putting effort on making a good-looking terrain does not take away room for improvement...

Con 3: Does unused map space in editor make the map heavier in MBs?

busterkomo thank u for reviewing my map^^

PD: I am planning to add a "Bet" system... so you bet certain amount of gold that the next wave you will kill a certain number of creeps (or all) and you get the pot if you win, or loose all you have bet. So I'm working on that

and what you think of adding 10 more levels?

 

[FrozenFenrir]

btw i forgot to say that i think the time between the waves is waaaay too long.
u should reduce it imo by 10-20 secs

and what you think of adding 10 more levels?

would be good cause this td is pretty short =/

 

[avunaos]

time between waves is good, think about it:

to play in hard you must sell for 100% and build the specific tower with the specific attack for the next wave, and upgrade it, and change between rocks, glaciers and poker temples... you need time to do this...

plus, I've started this map with 1:50 between waves, and THAT was long, 50 secods is allright... I will put 40 seconds in next update for you to test it ^^

this td is pretty short =/

yeah sure... is pretty short if you lose in creep level 2
anyway, my goal is not to make a 3 hours map, my goal is making a good map for td pros... so noobs wont last even the 1st wave... (unless they play in easy like they always do)

 

[FrozenFenrir]

time between waves is good, think about it:

to play in hard you must sell for 100% and build the specific tower with the specific attack for the next wave, and upgrade it, and change between rocks, glaciers and poker temples... you need time to do this...

plus, I've started this map with 1:50 between waves, and THAT was long, 50 secods is allright... I will put 40 seconds in next update for you to test it ^^

why dont u add some kind of...race mode?
or at least a command like "-next" or something to start the next wave of the own line

yeah sure... is pretty short if you lose in creep level 2

i dont lose that easy lol =P

 

[kyle150]

Where is the poker element?

I thought this was going to be like the classic Poker TD from a long time ago, where suits/numbers/face-cards make a set.

 

[avunaos]

or at least a command like "-next" or something to start the next wave of the own line

mmm... im not SOOOOOO good at triggering :$ my map is based on time waves for all players alike...
If i would do what you say, i'd have to code all the map again, and start writing self-waves of creeps for each player...

BTW: if you help me a bit, i could start working on that

I thought this was going to be like the classic Poker TD from a long time ago, where suits/numbers/face-cards make a set.

I dont know that map... When i made this one starting from an own idea, I thought about some kind of randomness in damage or something,, but i didnt get to develop it well

 

[Zaplobe]

Hello,

You know [bk's] Gem TD ? Its smiliar to your map in a way. You place 5 random towers each round (you choose only one of them) and maze around way points. Well, it has a race mode were when a player kills his own wave the next wave for him starts automatically. It also has tower combinations and other features. Maybe you should have a look at it. The map is here: [BK's] Gem TD v4.1b - Warcraft 3 Maps - EpicWar.com. You can also have a look at the old poker td here: Poker TD 2.0 Final - Warcraft 3 Maps - EpicWar.com. You can try to make diffrent modes like classic mode, race mode etc.. and the host chooses one of them at the beginning of the game. Of-cource as you said if someone else would help you with the map it will be better. The old poker td wasnt that good and is already gone. And y change the name to something thats different as this will make more ppl go for the map. I hope this map will be better. I still didnt try it, waiting for the full release of the map.

 

[FrozenFenrir]

You know [bk's] Gem TD ? Its smiliar to your map in a way. ... .... I still didnt try it, waiting for the full release of the map.

u havent tried it but u say its similiar to gem td?
if u would have taken a short look u would see both of them are totally different from each other.
the only thing where are both same is...well...they are both a td
thats all

 

[avunaos]

Zaplobe, Frozen is right... how can u tell they are the same if you didnt try it?
everything is not what is seems

I played a lot gems td, and they're not the same... my map is still not based on randomness

well anyway thank you a lot for the link to poker td older version i will take a look when i come back home, this monday

A lot of the map was unused. Not much you can do about that now, though.

i always say this: (Dont know how to say it in english, anyone who can translate it from spanish to english will be apreciated)

"siempre es mejor que sobre y no que falte"

what im trying to say is that always is better to have, and not to not-have ... if someday I want to add something to the map, or make any changes that envolve enlarging the map, i would have to make it again.... i dont think that space unused in editor counts in the map lenght (at least not if im optimizing it with MapOptimizer)

anyone who know about this, it would be nice to get informed and learn more

BTW:: OMG this is a laaarge reply... hope at least 70% of it is well written... sorry for my bad english plz :$

til later^^

 

[Zaplobe]

Opps, So this map still has no randomness like in gem td or the old poker td. Do you intead to put randomness in choosing the towers you build each round?. Well, if your arent going to put randomness then nvm what i said about it being like gem td and you dont have to look at the older poker td. This reminded me of the old poker td (from its name) and i thought that this will be something similar too although i read the description first. Maybe its just a different idea. How do you intend to make it diffrent from other tds?

 

[avunaos]

well im working on that...

its already diferent with the "towers available" system... that lets you build a certain amount of towers every 5 levels so you cant abuse with biiig mazes

 

[T-s-G]

I played this. I liked it! I got (on first try) to lvl X4, on Normal. But I found a bug!

As you see, it says that you have lost all your lifes. Game Over. Even though i had 13 lives left. (as shown on the picture) Then it shows, that zenai was defeated (which was true enough.) but please, dont make everyone get the message 'game over' when some1 gets defeated!

 

[avunaos]

k i will wok on that

in wich version did u get this message?

I got (on first try) to lvl X4, on Normal.

they key is to build lots of diamond 4 towers and both tmple strong and fast

anyway, damages still are not final

 

[T-s-G]

k i will wok on that

in wich version did u get this message?

Version 1.5. (downloaded today so ^^)

Oh yeah! the speed aura and dmg aura has the same description. Also Heart Stopper is spelled with one p, and not two (stoper.)
And Heart stopper kinda makes me think its a stunning attack, and not a multi-attack spell.

 

[avunaos]

thanks for the suggestions

1- change heart stoper name to something more related to multiattack
2- speed and damage aura fix

EDIT: Just checked and the tooltips of damage and speed aura are OK

Just fixed the thing about the text with defeated players, and forgot to re-edit the minimap image to 1.6 :$
jaja

im kinda busy right now ^^

 

[EpixBelongToMe]

i think the name is kinda annoying because this map offers nothing related to poker expect the card colors. so the name should be "Card TD".
so like other people said you should get a random tower of a color and then combine them if you are able to. that would make it kinda special and more like poker.

 

[avunaos]

thank u for the suggestion

im alone in this proyect... and also working in another one (with my brother).. more complicated, so i can not spend much time in this TD...

anyway i wrote some stuff about random towers.. have an idea but cant make it now

 

[T-s-G]

Yeah, this map is often mistaken with the 'original' Poker TD

 

[CloudMax]

This map wont get approved if it doesnt change name. The name is already taken by the map.. well... Poker TD... and that map was created late 2004 or early 2005, i dont remember. Please change the name since many people joins and when we starts they are like "WTF!!! THIS IS NOT POKER TD!" and leaves the game and it ends up with me and hopefully one more guy that i can play it with. :S

 

[avunaos]

k, in next version i will remove all poker related icons, change the map's name and description... i will need time becouse im studying for an test in 5/5 ...

 

[CloudMax]

You just need to change the name of the map, the content can be exactly the same.

 

[avunaos]

no it cant

anyway i like it this way now... gameplay matches the name

 

[CloudMax]

You changed everything, lul. xP Gonna try it out tommorow. If i dont forget...

 

[dragor-X]

This TD is soo unique that I'll show it to my friend ^^

 

[T-s-G]

YAY! You fixed the name.. Now fix your signature xD

 

[avunaos]

done^^

 

[Falke13]

very good td and it's not similiar to [bk's] gem td AT ALL.I found two bugs while i was playing, fisrt the range checker:900 AoE is like a channeling spell and builder casts it until u order him to stop.Second again for range checker:500 AoE when i casted it , builder did nothing if u compare it with the other checkers (the casting move).The aura temple upgrates to two different tower but their ability discription says the same thing (ability :attack speed aura) and when u upgrate them they are different .The one is damage aura and the other speed aura.Btw i played the updated version 8th June 2009

 

[avunaos]

well those are not bugs... after all its a range CHECKER you dont need to click, just hold the AOE in the screen to check ranges

well in the 2.6 I fixed things that people told me via mail...

hope everything goes allright...

I will implement a Ranking System for the next version... I need at least 10 scores from people to make it for the next version...

 

[avunaos]

wow i've been off since april ^^
this td didnt got so much popularity but its fine =)

 

[Cweener]

Mass Purging Template Version 3.0
Reject.

Reason for not approving:
Leaky leaky is a nono