Codeless Save and Load (Multiplayer) - v3.0.1

[4rankie]

Im trying to import this into my map when i test this map in the editor it saves heroes just fine and loads them when i import to my map it says local files aint enabled

 

[4rankie]

i have figured it out

 

[udg_Potato]

A bit of a random post from me, however I would very much like if this system was operational.

I've tried numerous of times to make this work but to no avail.

• I've set the Aerial Shackle to 2 and it's thing to ''!'' but that didn't affect it one bit.
• I'm simply trying to store Integer data, such as: Wins / Losses, MMR, win rate and basic stuff like that.

Has anyone had success with the mentioned things above?

 

[DarkePacific]

Hello guys, is there a solution to the problem that the list of characters to load does not update during the game.

Example: When I save my level 5 hero in slot 2 and he goes up to level 6 or higher and saves in slot 2 again and uses a hero pick up system he returns to the level of the first time I saved in slot 5 and not level 10, but if I create the map again and load space 2 it returns to level 10.

Currently looking into this. Looks like this is a known bug on the blizzard forums with Preloaded files

BUG: Preload files are being cache’d

Among other things, yes. Just a few files being cached this way has serious consequences for a lot of things. Think about everything from AI breaking in some specific circumstances, to user preferences not saving instantly in W3Champions, even LegionTD scores being buggy and some more, all of...

us.forums.blizzard.com

 

[HerlySQR]

Currently looking into this. Looks like this is a known bug on the blizzard forums with Preloaded files

BUG: Preload files are being cache’d

Among other things, yes. Just a few files being cached this way has serious consequences for a lot of things. Think about everything from AI breaking in some specific circumstances, to user preferences not saving instantly in W3Champions, even LegionTD scores being buggy and some more, all of...

us.forums.blizzard.com

I don't think so, because that bug was solved in the 1.35 version

 

[Elprede]

A bit of a random post from me, however I would very much like if this system was operational.

I've tried numerous of times to make this work but to no avail.

• I've set the Aerial Shackle to 2 and it's thing to ''!'' but that didn't affect it one bit.
• I'm simply trying to store Integer data, such as: Wins / Losses, MMR, win rate and basic stuff like that.

Has anyone had success with the mentioned things above?

We will need more information, such as how you are saving and loading the data. I am not sure you are aware that you have to load data in the reverse order that you saved the data in.

 

[udg_Potato]

We will need more information, such as how you are saving and loading the data. I am not sure you are aware that you have to load data in the reverse order that you saved the data in.

Yep, I've tried every possible way that I could think of to load it but I just couldn't get it to work.

Maybe that's just me, if someone else had success with save / load data such as: Real Values, Integer Values, Gold, Lumber - feel free to let me know or share your version of map so we can see what are you doing correctly

 

[DarkePacific]

I don't think so, because that bug was solved in the 1.35 version

Apparently not in this case. If you test out the save/load feature in the example map it can write/save the contents multiple times, but only loads what what was first initially read by the Preloader no matter how many times you write to the files.
Preloader() seems to read the file contents only once and then must cache them somewhere

Have tried to look for an error in the code but haven't been able to find any therefore I assume the aggressive caching isn't fully fixed on Blizzard's end.

Edit: To give more context yes the aggressive caching was mostly fixed for most errors it was causing in-game but I think in this case when it comes to the Preloader(file) function it still seems to only return whatever it first preloaded, effectively breaking subsequent save and loads. If you have a map where this save/load feature works correctly that'd be greatly appreciated.

 

[DarkePacific]

Found a fix!

Using backup files we can save our current character on these backup files along with the main file. Then by storing the current number of the backup per slot in udg_NumberOfSaves[playerNumber*12+slot] we can load our character's progress without restarting the map by loading the most recent backup file. Each time the map is re-loaded udg_NumberOfSaves is reset, however since we still save our character to the mainfile the game still knows what our current character's progress is. The backup files are then overwritten from the last game as new saves are made in the current one.

TL: DR;
Save, Load, and Delete via the GUI dialog now all work correctly, regardless of caching.

See changes in

• SampleDialogSystem,
• SaveHelperLib,
• SaveFile

 

[Produtor]

Found a fix!

Using backup files we can save our current character on these backup files along with the main file. Then by storing the current number of the backup per slot in udg_NumberOfSaves[playerNumber*12+slot] we can load our character's progress without restarting the map by loading the most recent backup file. Each time the map is re-loaded udg_NumberOfSaves is reset, however since we still save our character to the mainfile the game still knows what our current character's progress is. The backup files are then overwritten from the last game as new saves are made in the current one.

TL: DR;
Save, Load, and Delete via the GUI dialog now all work correctly, regardless of caching.

See changes in

• SampleDialogSystem,
• SaveHelperLib,
• SaveFile

One question is how do I disable it for a moment so that the hero doesn't save in the same slot?

Example: My game has the -repick command that allows you to choose another hero, but even the new hero saves in the old one's slot.

Another question is what command saves the hero in a slot of my choice.

Example: I don't want to give the player the choice of saving the same hero in a different slot, as already happens, but it only causes problems when the player tries to change heroes and play with another with the -Repick command.

 

[DarkePacific]

One question is how do I disable it for a moment so that the hero doesn't save in the same slot?

Example: My game has the -repick command that allows you to choose another hero, but even the new hero saves in the old one's slot.

Another question is what command saves the hero in a slot of my choice.

Example: I don't want to give the player the choice of saving the same hero in a different slot, as already happens, but it only causes problems when the player tries to change heroes and play with another with the -Repick command.

So I had a similar challenge with my map. The specifics of your repick system will depend on how you've implemented it. But I made a version of the save and load map with a button to create a new character. Look at the code for this button and implement a call to your repick code there.

 

[Produtor]

So I had a similar challenge with my map. The specifics of your repick system will depend on how you've implemented it. But I made a version of the save and load map with a button to create a new character. Look at the code for this button and implement a call to your repick code there.

Man, it was really good!

You can place this New Character button at the bottom after Delete Character. Because it is dangerous to press it accidentally.

What if it's possible to make the New Character button perform a choice trigger?

Example: I want to press the New Character button and run my Repick system and release the option to save in another slot.

 

[DarkePacific]

Someone asked for the New Character button to be moved to the bottom, and another person asked for the items to be loaded in the exact order they were saved. Here's a version where these changes have been made.

 

[P3in]

Hi guys, i am trying to save charges of the items, courier with items and charges, stash with items and charges but it seems to fail somewhere..the save is fine, on the notepad everything seems good, items order and everything, but when i load, some items drop on the ground that were supposed to be in stash, stash get's loaded even if it wasn't saved and hero items get's messed up, a few replaced with others i didn't have..and also i would like to save spell power from chopinski systems, or it should be fine just on items? I was thinking to add things like talents or "perma upgrades" that would give spell power but no wonder on how to save it..

 

[Antares]

Promoted to HQ because it would have gotten it if it were a thing back then

High Quality

 

[Njord]

i have figured it out

Can you tell me how you solved it? I have the same issue. It says I have to enable local files, but I have it enabled in the Registry Editor.

 

[Produtor]

Can you tell me how you solved it? I have the same issue. It says I have to enable local files, but I have it enabled in the Registry Editor.

Download the version that DarkePacific posted above.

 

[Njord]

Download the version that DarkePacific posted above.

Sadly it doesn't seem to be any diffrent. I still have the issue where it says that I need to enable local files. :/

 

[HerlySQR]

After some test I made lately, it seems that the created code has a limit because if is long enough it won't load properly.

 

[Produtor]

After some test I made lately, it seems that the created code has a limit because if is long enough it won't load properly.

How big are the variables being saved? The maximum value I noticed is 99,999; greater than that, it will work at some point.

 

[HerlySQR]

How big are the variables being saved? The maximum value I noticed is 99,999; greater than that, it will work at some point.

In my case I didn't do that, what I did is saving an string using the same logic, I saved each character by converting it to its ASCII value because the system only works with integers.

Here I explain a bit more the thing: [Solved] - Save system is not working

 

[Mediumunwell]

Someone asked for the New Character button to be moved to the bottom, and another person asked for the items to be loaded in the exact order they were saved. Here's a version where these changes have been made.

I noticed you changed a lot of the libraries since I used it back when his PlayerUtils was version 1.28. Now you have it as 1.29 and apparently saving in a much different method. So does this mean it is now more multiplayer compatible? TriggerHappy told me a couple years ago I shouldn't use this (I didn't listen, I'm still using it because I have other causes for desyncs in my map already). Curious if changing to your version will help with that, though.

 

[Produtor]

I noticed you changed a lot of the libraries since I used it back when his PlayerUtils was version 1.28. Now you have it as 1.29 and apparently saving in a much different method. So does this mean it is now more multiplayer compatible? TriggerHappy told me a couple years ago I shouldn't use this (I didn't listen, I'm still using it because I have other causes for desyncs in my map already). Curious if changing to your version will help with that, though.

I believe it can help you, I use this version of DarkePacific and it is doing well in multiplayer.

 

[P3in]

Hi guys

I've managed to add more buttons to the "Dialog System", but into what i added new, it doesn't save/load anything, it just shows the name of the hero that was supposed to be loaded from there, and how can you add new pages to have more save slot room?

And also, how can you disable the dialog system for a player once he loads once or lets say, twice?

 

[Mediumunwell]

I believe it can help you, I use this version of DarkePacific and it is doing well in multiplayer.

Got the updates working. Finally found that I hadn't been saving the unit as SavePlayerHero when it's picked. I fixed it by declaring it when the hero is chosen. Can't remember why I didn't need that using the previous version of this.

@DarkePacific Thank you for your contributions on this as well. I plan to make a separate inventory system one day, so that change is massive for me to quickly loop a bunch of items in! The New Character button was a great idea as well and something people requested from me a lot. It does create some discourse in my map as some structures are tied to the hero you choose/intially load, but I don't think its too immersion breaking or problematic, so I think I'll keep it!

I don't allow more than one load in my game, so the epic thing you did to allow loading without restarting doesn't effect me much. Still, you get to see that the file is actually there now. Idk if that was you or already there, but that does make things a lot better for people to see the system working, so thank you again if that was you.

And also, how can you disable the dialog system for a player once he loads once or lets say, twice?

Just put the part of your loading actions that create the hero and set the SavePlayerHero variable in an if/then/else statement set some integer variable eg. Load_integer to 0 by default and Load_integer + 1 when their hero is loaded then have the if statement say if Load_integer = 2 then it displays "Can only load twice", and under else put your create character and set variable stuff.

Not sure about your new buttons, but all I could see would be needing to edit the Dialog box trigger a couple different places. I could be wrong.