City of Terror II (v1.2j)

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Date: 2011/Oct/22 12:56:39 Vengeancekael: VM // PM: Rep Received: 0

Reasons: Other: If you have any complaints or questions directed towards a moderator, make a thread here: Map Resource Moderation If you think the moderator's judging is unfair or you have overall complaints, make a thread here: Admin Contact Please read the rules thoroughly: Rules Comment: Very polished, has some neat features like a jetpack, with acceptable controls. However nothing new, some of the abilities are also very familiar, like sprint/night vision and also the classes. But it can be fun, it has very challenging difficulties. The shooting is fun, there's no auto-attack, however the terrain lacks more modern tiles, textures, etc. It still has the warcraft 3 medieval feeling to it, but atmospheric wise it's very dark and moody. Suggestions: *Add quests for objectives, tips, etc.

Update - Vengeancekael:

Rating changed to 4/5 due to updates.

 

[kleinerhauck]

The guns.
(Chainsaw by tee.dubs)

 

[Vengeancekael]

Is the tank model ripped off from another game?

 

[kleinerhauck]

Oh good you mention it I forgot to list it, it's from Illidan(Evil)X.. *updated*

 

[Vengeancekael]

Very polished, has some neat features like a jetpack, with acceptable controls.
However nothing new, some of the abilities are also very familiar, like sprint/night vision and also the classes.
But it can be fun, it has very challenging difficulties.
The shooting is fun, there's no auto-attack, however the terrain lacks more modern tiles, textures, etc.
It still has the warcraft 3 medieval feeling to it, but atmospheric wise it's very dark and moody.

Suggestions:
*Add quests for objectives, tips, etc.

Rating: 3/5 Approved

 

[kleinerhauck]

Yeah I guess some street tiles like in CoT1 would be nice.
I was also looking for power poles (and cables) but didn't find any, does anyone know a good model?

As for the classes, if anyone has fresh ideas feel free to post them
I also need a third skill for the engineer.

You don't really have time to read quests though..
I think a good solution would be displaying the text again when clicking on the scientist.

 

[frostloh]

Fun map. I just can't resist anything with blood and zombies, and this is one of the best out there.

4/5, room for further improvement but still impressive!

 

[vdainiusv]

Rly fun map and hard but no gun sounds
4/5 coz no gun sounds

 

[Grievous1]

Really funny map please keep it up and improve it. I give you 5/5 if you will add shoot sounds. +rep

 

[kleinerhauck]

I'll see what I can do ;-)

€:
Changelog v1.1:
- Random background sounds added
- Marine sounset added
- Weapon sounds added
- New tiles added
- New doodads added
- Optional locked camera and distance settings (see F9)
New map size ~2.2MB

 

[UndeadImmortal]

My review:

(+) Good terrain, keep up the good work!
(+) Jetpack ability, which you will fly around the area at the cost of your mana
(-) You cannot damage enemies when you are on the roof of an building, even when I unpacked the Machinegun

More reviews coming when I test the City of Terror II again.

 

[kleinerhauck]

When you are standing at the border of the roof you can shoot down, otherwise not.
I thought it looked too odd when you could shoot through roofs..

€: I just noticed that this indeed doesn't work all the time.. I'll have a look at it.
On the other hand, this does prevent you from camping on the roof.. so why change it?

€:

The street tiles from MassiveMaster look really great :)

 

[Grievous1]

A great update dude. Someone up to playing it?

 

[UndeadImmortal]

Yeah, I play it with my friends and they like it

 

[Kl3sk]

Horrible terrain. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that got this map approval status has to be the list of features implemented. Congrats to the author.

 

[UndeadImmortal]

The terrain is good you know, it is not approve because only at the features, but also the gameplay. The gameplay is fun and good... You must reset your review again.

 

[ImperialShadow]

any idea how get tank fix?

 

[kleinerhauck]

Horrible terrain.

Are you talking about v1.1? (if not, try that version)
Why do you think it's horrible and what could I improve in your opinion?

any idea how get tank fix?

A random enemy can drop an item that fixes it (under very hard and extremely hard you need 2 or 3 items).
Due to the probability this should happen in nearly every game sooner or later.

€: There most certainly is a server split in this version, gonna fix it asap
€2: I think I found the bug, but I've got some more testing to do tomorrow

 

[ImperialShadow]

You should let the armed citizen reload lol...if not when finish bullet,they just standing there.

 

[kleinerhauck]

You should let the armed citizen reload lol...if not when finish bullet,they just standing there.

They are supposed to stop shooting at some point, otherwise they would be OP.

New version 1.1c online.
- Server split and some minor issues fixed
- New task added (find it yourself ;-)

 

[Nemesis4Hired]

nice but locking.

 

[kleinerhauck]

nice but locking.

Do you mean lagging?

That's something I wanna work on for the next version. done, let's see if it works out
(I actually don't have serious lags, but many people told me so already, mainly during the time the sentry bots are activated)

€: New version 1.1e uploaded! See changelog for details.

 

[Sgt.Pierce]

good game but its kinda dark that i can't see those flayers...i'll give you a 4/5 rating

 

[kleinerhauck]

good game but its kinda dark that i can't see those flayers...

Then you should darken your room, adjust your monitor settings or turn night vision on ;-)
I also can't play with the sun shining through my window.

€: 1.1g uploaded.

Known bugs (fixed since 1.1j):
- AWP sometimes shoots multiple bullets at the same time
- Marines sometimes reload without being given the command

€: The next version will add additional controls:
- Shooting with a hotkey (probably A)
- Optional auto-attack
- Controlling jetpack with the mouse
€: 1.1i with the above controls uploaded
€: Presentation updated

 

[Sgt.Pierce]

i don't usually use the night vision because it drains my mana and i use it on jetpack...well i'll try it

Sorry for my bad english..

 

[UndeadImmortal]

1.1g?!... Terrible, it goes with that many updates because of the bugs that players found...

 

[kleinerhauck]

Since no more requests or new ideas came up I will now work on the known bugs and try to make the triggers even more efficient, as some players were still complaining about low fps rates.

 

[rowdyrod1]

This map is one of the top survival maps next to ZAF and AFTERLIFE...Very good but can i suggest a simple leader board that shows players classes,Kills,and health%...Also can players have shared vision so nobody loses each other or when to revive someone and if you can make more weapons because more weapons is always better ...I host this time to time on lan and bnet most people always complain about being to dark even though theres night vison and ammo runs out fast but Overall its still a great map and still evolving...keep up the good work...

 

[kleinerhauck]

I'm glad you like it.
As for the board, that's a good idea, escpecially because people usually don't remember which player chose which class in the beginning.
I guess I should also make the marines look more different depending on their classes (just like the medic).
The darkness and fog are the things I like the most about this map though, so I won't change that ;-)
There are enough full-bright zombie maps lacking any atmosphere out there, those people should probably play those maps instead.

More guns.. yeah, maybe after I fixed everything.
But I'll add more MP7 ammo, since it's a lot of fun to use it and you don't get so much.

€: The multiboard will display class, name, kills and whether the player is alive
€: I found out what's causing some guns to shoot too many bullets/in the wrong angle sometimes. *testing new version*
€: 1.1j uploaded! All known bugs are fixed (except random reloads, those will be fixed in the next version), multiboard added, interface improved (see presentation); enjoy!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Rating changed from 3/5 to 4/5. Keep working on it! You're doing well.

 

[kleinerhauck]

Thx venge.
In the next version (1.1k) the aiming system will be improved further:
- No tooltips will be visible when hovering the mouse over an enemy (this was just annoying)
- It will be easier to shoot enemies with right clicks (200 AoE)
- You will be able to shoot enemies with left clicks (selecting) this doesn't work so well
- (The reload bug will finally be removed... it was a small variable error >.>)
I guess it will be finished tomorrow.
€: Some more testing required.

 

[rowdyrod1]

Update Looks Great but i was thinking for an idea.What if you made this map into 1st person view or 3rd person view then the map will feel more realistic and the manual aiming system you already have will be more efficient and more useful and if you could enable a choice if players want to play with it or back to normal view.I seen great 3rd person maps with good aiming system like paintball and heavy combat 2.But just never seen it in survival maps like this and seems like a good idea.

 

[kleinerhauck]

I've thought about this already and concluded that the map is too fast for 1st person...
Depending on the camera's distance you wouldn't see enemies coming from behind (or teleporting/flying enemies) and thus would have a great disadvantage.

Maybe I'll try it or even make it optional but I don't think it will be so good. :/

 

[rowdyrod1]

I didn't know you thought of this already.Perhaps decrease enemies speed so wont be so fast gameplay making it unplayable.And for enemies behind maybe enable radar or another way of using triggers for alertness.The downfall for 1st person view is the aiming system.Such as maps like Sharpshooter failed for terrible controls for the aiming system but 3rd person view had more success for aiming controls where you can use the mouse to aim and shoot and use keyboard controls to move your player.I can tell you are very experience with triggering and just wonder if this can be possible.

 

[kleinerhauck]

But if you have to use arrow keys (everything else would be a pain in the ass) to move you can't hit other hotkeys quickly.
I just don't see it working out, sry ;-)
I guess w3 is just too limited to make a really enjoyable 1st person map.

On another topic: The above changes for 1.1k are made and tested, but I think I will additionally add a new class to this version:
The Elite Fighter.
He will have less move speed malus from heavy weapons and a better kevlar.
For spells he will have Hold Breath, which increases accuracy for a short period, and something else which you can find out by yourself soon ;-)
€: 1.1k uploaded!

 

[rowdyrod1]

Thats true...I understand be to many complications.Well i still enjoy the map and best wishes for further improvements for COT.

 

[kleinerhauck]

1000 downloads!
Time for some news ;-)

I haven't found any bugs in this version so far so I can concentrate on implementing new game modes for the next version.

I was thinking about some kind of FFA arena, where you can use all guns and additionally summon different zombies to fight for you. How does that sound?
€:
Progress of Arena Mode/1.2b:
- The gun spawns and mode selection are already finished
- You get credits for killing other players, and for a certain amount of credits you can, besides items, purchase zombies, which will hunt your enemies automatically
- If you reach a certain amount of credits you win the game
- Added a new gun (which I guarantee you have never seen before! ) exclusively for Arena Mode
- Multiboard for Arena Mode
- Various minor things

If there aren't any major bugs I can start on adding some new guns to the next version after 1.2b.
I was thinking about some kind of lightning gun, maybe a force gun (pushing units away) and a swap gun for Arena Mode.

 

[Assassins-Creed]

Even if he did make it in first person,there is like a natural delay to the arrow commands so playing it online would be difficult.

 

[kleinerhauck]

1.2b/Arena Mode finished!

The feedback I received in online games wasn't so good, but I think that's mainly because newbies are overcharged by the shooting system and all (though you just have to click stuff >.>).
But maybe some of you who already played the survival mode still have fun with it, hell, I do

 

[rowdyrod1]

Well done i love the Arena mode and the ghoul cannon is so well done very unique.Also yes newbies always complain about the shooting system...But do you play online when your not updating the map? Wouldn't mind playing with the creator and have you thought about running a autohost bot for your map running 24/7 for more popularity

 

[kleinerhauck]

Try catching me on Garena (same name as here).
I'm not playing on bnet anymore since I got tired of looking for new refreshers and delay reducers all the time... and I think there are enough host bots ;-)

 

[rowdyrod1]

You play in Europe rooms or USA Room? And my garena name is colorzallunite and ill try to add you

 

[kleinerhauck]

I found some minor bugs in Arena Mode (like the infection not going away after respawn).
But I probably won't upload another version until I made some of the planned new guns.

Has anyone got further suggestions?

€: I already made a railgun and lightning gun for the next version
€: New version will be released soon, after some more testing
€: Presentation updated (added list of guns)

€: 1.2c uploaded!

 

[KuWe]

I dl'ed and tested the survival mode. It looks very promising zombie survival map. While the terrain isn't groundbreaking it is suitable for this kind of map. Jetpack is really cool although i got stuck sometimes when near cliffs. Also I liked the shooting system and amount of weapons. I'd say it is a good zombie survival map with a few minor flaws but no one is perfect

 

[IronTaker56]

The weapon icons are free to use in your map, but please give credit!
(Chainsaw by tee.dubs, the others by myself (well the background images are copied from random games))

Oh thank you for giving credits...but your map is like so Look This COOL

 

[IronTaker56]

Grievous1 he likes Zombie/Horror/Suspense but me i like IRONS!!But im so scary the HORROR like INSIDIOUS,Silent Hill,Prey,and Nightmare on Elms Street... .____.

 

[Grievous1]

Grievous1 he likes Zombie/Horror/Suspense but me i like IRONS!!But im so scary the HORROR like INSIDIOUS,Silent Hill,Prey,and Nightmare on Elms Street... .____.

Sorry dude oO but what are you talking about? I haven't asked something. ^^

 

[kleinerhauck]

sorry dude oo but what are you talking about?

+1 :d

 

[BandolXD]

Nice map.