C++ programming.

[reason 3]

Hey,guys...This is thread has nothing to do with wc3 or even wc3 editor at all,i just mentioned that to let you know that this is completely OFF-TOPIC.

I need some help to find a C++ complier,or anything else that will help me this programming language.Usefull tutorials would help a lot.
I want to download it for free...

I will give +rep to anyone who helps.

P.S. If mods think this an abuse the off-topic section,they can go on and delete the whole thread.Thanks for your time

 

[xxdingo93xx]

I think Microsoft Visual C# 2008 (Express Edition or not) is also capable for C++. Maybe just after importing neccessary plugins.

 

[raid1000]

dev C++
it for free

 

[reason 3]

Could you post some links?
EDITownloading what you suggested raid1000 and +rep for both.

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Could you post some links?

Try here...

Yup, google is your friend

 

[reason 3]

Now downloading both...Any usefull tutorials about C++?
I know the basics of programming so i guess learning C++ won't be that hard.

 

[Yixx]

Try Ghostwolf's Signature, it holds a SHITLOAD of links! Was also helpfull for me (im also learning it now)

 

[reason 3]

I found the link....here is what GhostWolf suggests:http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=f4hm61
EDIT:+rep for you too Yixx.
And... xxdingo93xx what you suggested has a 10 day evaluation time...so i don't think it will do.
Trying raid1000 link.

 

[Pyritie]

If you've never really learnt a programming language before, I wouldn't suggest you start with C++. C++ is pretty complicated.

P.S. If mods think this an abuse the off-topic section,they can go on and delete the whole thread.Thanks for your time

lol

 

[reason 3]

No i know programming at some point.

I said that cause i somehow...asked people to find things for me giving them rep.

 

[xxdingo93xx]

I found the link....here is what GhostWolf suggests:http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=f4hm61
EDIT:+rep for you too Yixx.
And... xxdingo93xx what you suggested has a 10 day evaluation time...so i don't think it will do.
Trying raid1000 link.

lol, it is not up to me which link you click. If you just checked one of these links and got only an evaulated version what about checking the other links? <.<
Searching helps, dude.

 

[reason 3]

No..i downloaded the only avalaible version there,which didn't require a fee.And this had 10 days evaluation time.
I managed to get dev C++ at least...

 

[HINDYhat]

Code::Blocks has always worked well for me.

If you've never really learnt a programming language before, I wouldn't suggest you start with C++. C++ is pretty complicated.

C++ was pretty much what I started with.

 

[reason 3]

I've been expirementing doing some "things"...if i tell you,you will probably won't download anything i have uploaded here
And until now i've been using low level programming languages.In order to improve i guess doing it with C++ is the best.

 

[Pyritie]

C++ was pretty much what I started with.

Yeah, it can be done, and obviously some people can do it. I just don't suggest it as a first language.

 

[TriggerHappy]

I think Microsoft Visual C# 2008 (Express Edition or not) is also capable for C++. Maybe just after importing neccessary plugins.

That would be Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 (Express Edition).

You can try Dev-C++ or CodeBlocks.

 

[reason 3]

That would be Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 (Express Edition).

You can try Dev-C++ or CodeBlocks.

Yes,i've downloaded them both.I'm learning the basics at the moment.
Thank you guys

EDIT:I try this

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main ()
{
cout << "Hello World!";
return 0;
}

But whenever i run it and want to see the result a get a black screen which disappears in 0.01 sec.How can i make it last longer?
I did this in Dev-C++.
Can someone explain me how CodeBlocks works?
And return 0; what is supposed to mean?

 

[Coolty44]

I'm reading this tutorial on C++ right now. It seems pretty good, I learned abit from it in the summer, but my Microsoft Visual C++ trial ran out.

How are you even getting your's to apear? I have the exact same lines, but it wither wont compile properly or it doesn't apear at all.

 

[HINDYhat]

reason_3, return 0; just means that you're ending the main function and returning the value 0. The reason why you don't see anything is because there is no pause between the Hello World and the function's return. Try adding "system("pause");" in between them. What that will do is add a "Please press any key to continue..." message, which will accomplish just that. There are some other functions you could use to pause, but I only remember system("pause"). In fact, you'd be better off doing this:

cout << "Hello World!" << endl;
system("pause");
return 0;

The 'endl' will make a new line, so you don't get "Hello World!Please press any key to continue..."

Can someone explain me how CodeBlocks works?

What do you not understand? It's very straightforward in that it gives you wizards for just about everything.

 

[reason 3]

I'm reading the same tutorial Coolty44 and i have managed to make it work.Instead making it display only a message(which runs in nano seconds) and disappears very fast from screen try this...Something in which you will have to "write back" to the program.
include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include <sstream>
using namespace std;
int main ()
{
string mystr;
float price=0;
int quantity=0;
cout << "Enter price: ";
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> price;
cout << "Enter quantity: ";
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> quantity;
cout << "Total price: " << price*quantity <<
endl;
return 0;
}

And HINDYhat i am having trouble on how making it work.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Isnt C easier than C++? :|

 

[reason 3]

Yes C is much easier but C++ is better...

 

[redscores]

You know that you are currently using no c++ at all, right?

To explain you, you use C, C++ is just a very much "updated" C, which supports classes, parent classes, child classes and much much more, this is for example C++:

class Bla{
public:
int result;
int 1, 2, 3;

void Calculate(){
result = 1*2*3; 
}

};

void main{
  Bla new;
  new.1 = 2;
  new.2 = 3;
  new.3 = 4;
  new.Calculate();
  printf("%i", new.result);

}

I hope I made no mistakes, got no editor at home .

P.S: I just let the includes away. thats intended, it is just a example.

If you want to test it by yourself, include above the class:

#include <stdio.h> or "stdio.h" (don't remember which it was)

 

[reason 3]

I'm learning it at the moment redscores ...
And i have some questions.
Let's say i want to cout a message.How can i have pause intervals betwneed some messages?For example,
Hello,all!
(wait 3 sec)
I'm a computer!
(wait 5 sec)
How are you?

Or maybe like the letters are typed slow...i mean when you run the prog letter being typed,and not all of them are already typed.
Like H (wait 0.1 sec) e (wait 0.1 sec) l and so on...

 

[Pyritie]

Well I know that in java there's Thread.sleep(long milliseconds); but I dunno what that is in c++.

 

[TriggerHappy]

include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include <sstream>
using namespace std;
int main ()
{
string mystr;
float price=0;
int quantity=0;
cout << "Enter price: "<< endl;;
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> price;
cout << "Enter quantity: "<< endl;;
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> quantity;
cout << "Total price: " << price*quantity << endl;
system("PAUSE")
return 0;
}

 

[reason 3]

include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include <sstream>
using namespace std;
int main ()
{
string mystr;
float price=0;
int quantity=0;
cout << "Enter price: "<< endl;;
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> price;
cout << "Enter quantity: "<< endl;;
getline (cin,mystr);
stringstream(mystr) >> quantity;
cout << "Total price: " << price*quantity << endl;
system("PAUSE")
return 0;
}

What is this supposed to do?And in what is it different than the one i posted above?Also i get a lot of compile errors with this.

 

[TriggerHappy]

What is this supposed to do?And in what is it different than the one i posted above?Also i get a lot of compile errors with this.

The compile errors are your own, I did that in notepad. I just added endlines and system("pause") since you were complaining it ended to fast.

I'm feeling nice and I compiled it correctly;

#include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include <sstream>
using namespace std;

int main () {
    string mystr;
    float price=0;
    int quantity=0;
    cout << "Enter price: ";
    getline (cin,mystr);
    stringstream(mystr) >> price;
    cout << "Enter quantity: ";
    getline (cin,mystr);
    stringstream(mystr) >> quantity;
    cout << "Total price: " << price*quantity << endl;
    system("PAUSE");
    return 0;
}

 

[Reaper2008]

Don't use System("Pause"), it's buggy. Use std::cin.get() instead.

 

[redscores]

Just make a loop which exists if you press enter, that uses scanf and a ASCII knowledge

And just as a information, System("PAUSE") is NOT bugged.

And theres a Sleep(milliseconds) function in C too... I think, I am not 100% sure though.

 

[PurplePoot]

Yes C is much easier but C++ is better...

*For certain, very terrible values of better.

Yeah, it can be done, and obviously some people can do it. I just don't suggest it as a first language.

Remove first and your sentence is perfect. I don't see why you would use C++ unless you are really determined to work at a company that requires it.

--

I would suggest MinGW since gcc is rather popular, if you really insist on using the abomination that is C++.

 

[redscores]

Purple, OOP is the future.... that is the truth, nearly every game nowadays uses C++ + other programming languages.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Purple, OOP is the future.... that is the truth, nearly every game nowadays uses C++ + other programming languages.

Since when did poot say anything about OOP?

Most languages have OOP anyways, at least from the languages I have tried out.

 

[Pyritie]

I would suggest MinGW since gcc is rather popular, if you really insist on using the abomination that is C++.

Unfortunately a lot of large libraries only have versions for VC++. Such as PhysX, I believe.

Either they make libraries for all of the compilers or they just make one for VC++. Which is a shame, because VC++ sucks. :/

 

[PurplePoot]

Purple, OOP is the future.... that is the truth, nearly every game nowadays uses C++ + other programming languages.

C++ is OOP in the vaguest sense of the word at best. Also, I have nothing against OOP--I'm currently doing work in cLISP with a tad of Java on the side. The non-OOP languages I'm working in, in fact, are Scheme for class (which I prefer cLISP to) and C out of interest.

Also, you are making an argument based on the language's popularity, which is bullshit since momentum is the only (or at least very large main) reason C++ is still alive.

Unfortunately a lot of large libraries only have versions for VC++. Such as PhysX, I believe.

Either they make libraries for all of the compilers or they just make one for VC++. Which is a shame, because VC++ sucks. :/

Try taking away the V from all those statements and it makes a lot more sense.

Really, why there are people out there that actually like C++ is beyond me.

 

[Pyritie]

Try taking away the V from all those statements and it makes a lot more sense.

Visual C++?

 

[PurplePoot]

VC++ without the V makes... C++.

 

[Pyritie]

VC++ is microsoft's C++ compiler+IDE.

 

[PurplePoot]

I realize.

 

[reason 3]

Guys,i prefer to use C++ for my purpose.So i repeat my self,is there a Sleep(milliseconds) function in C++?And if so,can someone post an example?

 

[PurplePoot]

What are you attempting to do? There is almost certainly (read: certainly, unless you want to apply for a job at a company that uses C++) a better language to do it in.

 

[reason 3]

Well,i was thinking creating something like a new game,i heard that C++ is able to do it,and it is high level programming language.
Until now i only had knowledge of "let's say the easiest" languages like Pascal.

Maybe you could do me a favour PurplePoot?I realize you have a great knowledge about programming so can you post a list of the best programming languages and what each one of them is best suitable at?

I would really appreciate it!Thx,+rep!

 

[PurplePoot]

A simple 2d game would be much easier to code in Python or even Java.

An ASCII game could be done in C relatively easy as well.

You would not be doing a 3d game, so that's fine.

Also, it's hard to list the "best" programming languages, but if you are interested in learning a few, I would suggest:

Some dialect of LISP (Scheme probably for simplicity etc).
Strengths: Homoiconic syntax, very simple, rapid development, few gotchyas, a look at functional programming, very powerful, very different from anything else you will likely see.
Java
Strengths: Fairly easy to learn, common, large standard library making it easy to do most common things, excellent web interfacing and documentation.
Python
Strengths: Easy to learn, rapid development, few gotchyas, excellent documentation, large friendly community, large standard library.
C
Strengths: Fast, low-level, extremely powerful, interfaces well with operating systems.

(Note: This is by no means an exhaustive list, nor are the "strengths" sublists)

C++ is really only viable if you want to go into a job which requires it for whatever reason.

 

[reason 3]

C++ isn't just an "upgraded" version of C?Including more staff?

EDIT:What am i doing wrong here?

if (result > 25)
cout << "bla bla bla!"
else
cout <<"bla bla!";

Never mind i found it." ; " was needed after else

 

[PurplePoot]

Adding random crap and removing the concept of context-free grammar may be an upgrade but it makes the language worse, not better.

 

[reason 3]

Adding random crap and removing the concept of context-free grammar may be an upgrade but it makes the language worse, not better.

Dev C++ supports C too,so i might use this...Another question.
How to remove the "Please press any key to continue..." message ?
I guess its due to system("pause"); i use.Maybe i could replace this with something else?

 

[Vosty]

C++ is a major bitch, because everything is so based on how much memory it takes up, and not just its value.(Like there is like 8 types of number types, all just for bigger and smaller, negative and positive numbers.)
Otherwise, I like the syntaz of C++. It is pretty clean on some level, unlike certain languages I've seen.
I loathe my code blocks!

 

[PurplePoot]

Syntax in most languages is nothing of any particular note. There are a few exceptions to this (for example, the LISP's family with their macros) but generally syntax isn't a big deal. After you learn a few it becomes much more "yeah, whichever". The important thing is how fast you are able to develop in the language, and no, set foo = bar and foo := bar are not "slower to code" than foo = bar because the latter has a few less characters.

 

[Reaper2008]

I like C, and I like C++ too. I've tried Java as well, and I still stick with C++. It's great, and especially for Win32 it's got great potential. Java's nice too, but it's overkill to use it for small apps, because of the way JRE handles it (VM takes up way too much memory), plus you need JRE in the first place.

 

[TriggerHappy]

I like C# (I hope vex doesn't see this thread ), C(++).

I've tried Delphi, but := is really annoying. Java is alright too.