Blood Gulch [Action PvP]

[-Berz-]

Blood Gulch

Map info This is a small PvP arena, where you pick your hero and kill other players Combat style is different than on generic wc3 maps, you use arrow keys to control your hero and you must attack with hotkeys. Attacks aren't single target but they only deal area damage in front of your hero so attacking isn't so easy as it seems. There are also other features like special attacks that costs adrenaline points(mana). The trick is that you gain adrenaline by killing opponents or by picking up adrenaline boosts. There are also special runes that gives you movement speed, life regeneration, etc.. You can also use jump skill that costs no adrenaline to jump over the rocks to move around faster or avoid incoming attack. Also there are kill sounds like First blood, mega kill, ultra kill, etc... Everything is supported by nice visual effect, terrain, sounds and animations

	Heals the picking unit for 50 HP
	Gives additional movement speed to picking unit, lasts 25 seconds

Screenshots

Credits

Beta testers and helpers:
MortAr

Spells/systems:
Paladon (Jump)

Icons:

Models:
General Frank (Item potion big green, Item potion tint blue)
Matarael (red boots)

Skinns:

Other:
GhostThruster (triggers help)

Ok, this is for now, I'll update this with screenshots, gameplay and other in near future. Just to let you know what I'm working on

This map is on hold, I'm not sure when I'll continue with it.

 

[light bolt30]

This may be good but, I don't like the idea with attacking with hotkeys and jumping all over the place and moving with arrow keys. Since lag will be a factor with this and will require quite alot of button mashing.

 

[Lich Prince]

Aha, this explains all your skulking around in the Spell Section =P.

The map certainly sounds good and unique, so good luck.

 

[-Berz-]

Lag isn't the factor, it was tested several in multiplayer and no lag at all. Jump is designed so that you can jump only over come rocks and cliffs.

And it's really easy to understand: arrow keys to move 5 hotkeys to do different actions, you don't need mouse at all.

I's like a shooting game like Quake or UT only wc3 style with no long ranged weapons

Plus this map is stile evolving and ideas are keep coming in my head, I have so much to do. Atm I'm working on item spawners (health packs, adrenalin, runes).

 

[Super-Sheep]

Yeah whatever.

There will be lag anyway so your idea is doomed. You most likely played with some randoms who are used to play without any latency reduction tools.

 

[-Berz-]

I tested with 4 people + me as a host(I have 100 mbps net) and it worked without any lag.

 

[Zack1996]

Oh look, its -Berz-
Strangely, I haven't seen your posts for a while (I was pretty inactive, so )

Anyway, this is rather unused, as far as I know. I have played this really interesting map called TcX. It's basically Warcraft Quake and its really epic. I'd like to see how this one turns out.

The one thing I'm worried about is the variety of spells that can be implemented. If you are planning to create a map that doesn't use the mouse, there are quite a few limitations to the things you can create.

Moving on, I'm curious as to how fast-paced this map is. I have seen many attempts at a fast paced PvP, but many end up being really long and painful. I really love fast-paced maps, but they are rare of late.

One last question: Does this map use a round system or a persistent kill system?

EDIT: Oh, just realised that you are using the generic kill sounds
I know that there aren't many good kill sounds out there, but those are used in almost every map

 

[-Berz-]

"No mouse" how to use use eg shock wave? simple dummy and an offset point(+ facing angle), no mouse needed.

This map is pretty fast since it's a small map and 10 players.

Oh btw i tested this map with 10 players with my shitty net and only 2 people with even more shitty net than my lagged out else the arrow movement worked just fine

 

[Lich Prince]

How's the progress on this going Berz?

 

[-Berz-]

I'm working on items, so far I managed to make healing potions to work, now I'll add speed, armor, and maybe some other runes.

 

[matej]

omg, a berzerker decided to make a map, woooooow....
its sounds good, locks good, a whole idea is nice. good work, i like that.

 

[GhostThruster]

Good luck. I hope you're using the Movement System I made for you
BTW, you ripped off the name of a Halo multi-player map!

 

[-Berz-]

Yes I did, I watched that "comedy" made out of halo map, and It was awesome

You can watch it at youtube "red vs. blue halo"

I didn't use your movement entirely, I just looked at the code to see how should I edit my system

*Edited the first post

 

[Hemske]

Seems like quite the interesting idea/map. Could turn out either great or terrible Probably great. I think it will lack in replayability though, the gameplay seems to be quite repetive. But it is nothing that won't be able to change either, the rune/item thing will probably help the variation in the game, and visual effects by Berz will be enough to replay it anyways

 

[-Berz-]

Ok, I got kill sounds working:

First blood
Killing spree
Dominating
Rampage
Wicked sick
Godlike, etc.

Now I'm having a little problem with floating text, but nothing i couldn't handle :b
Now game triggers are mainly done, now comes just polising and fun part like spells, visuals, icons, texts and overall pimping up

 

[Whisper]

if u need some skins or models tell me friend
I lova ya
Gutts fans FTW!

 

[Lich Prince]

I was wondering, since you probably have the attack and movement systems done, if there are heroes with ranged attacks here?

 

[-Berz-]

For now I'm cool with default wc3 models.

Umm, there arent any default ranged units but there will we ranged spells like skockwave and stuff like that. That's because accurate aiming would be almost impossible, lets say arrow would hit something in aoe 25 and shockwave would hit something in aoe 250.

Oh and what do you thing about this:

Killing = gold and mana, gold = abilities, abilities = mana. and abilities would be like omgwtfnukeboom.

 

[Lich Prince]

Yes my friend but an arrow is really fast and will probably be much faster than the hero's movement speed (not to mention the movement with keyboards). So I think it wouldn't be that hard to hit a hero with a low aoe attack. Oh and also the arrow attack probably has the smallest aoe. Rifles, Magic attacks, and etc would have a higher aoe.

About the Killing formula. What do you mean by mana? Leveling or a replacement for lumber?

 

[-Berz-]

In order to do something you first need to kill someone to gain gold and mana. then you buy abilities that would cost mana

 

[Lich Prince]

In order to do something you first need to kill someone to gain gold and mana. then you buy abilities that would cost mana

Oh you mean like WoW's rage system. Yeah it's cool then.

 

[-Berz-]

Something like that, it won't be called mana nor rage but adrenaline.

 

[Eldubs]

This project is unique and needs to be finished soon. My skills are ready to play this map!

Anyways if you need testing/balacing help. I can do that.

 

[-Berz-]

Ufff... map is far from done, at least not this year.

And thanks I'm always searching for testers, I will make a test map soon.

 

[Eldubs]

Great to hear. Send me a private if your ready with the test version.

 

[baassee]

Now this is cool although I wonder if the map has any creeps at all or just heroes? I guess heroes as you mentioned about small size.

My only concerns are and yes I know you can make very nice spells (old good times ), you guys talked about target point like spells (shockwave as an example). How about something more difficult, unit targeting spells? is it when you attack in certain combos or something alike?

I wishing you the best of luck and if you need any help I will be glad to help you out!

 

[-Berz-]

This will be on a hold for a while, I must get some things righth in RL first...