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Discussion in 'Latest Updates and News' started by Archian, Feb 19, 2021.

  1. maduroman

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    absolutely nothing? really? im not even mad, just incredibly sad, you murdered my beloved game a year ago and didn't even have the decency to give it a proper burial or had the guts to admit you did the murdering in the first place, screw you blizzard, i hope the D2 resurrected crap flops aswell and you stop ruining the only good games you ever made
     
  2. superlich086

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    We should not lose hope. Some video games get more than one remaster. Age of Empires II got 2 remasters - HD and Defnitive Edition. Reforged will hopefully not be the only official wc3 remaster, they can make another one soon if Diablo 2 Resurrected is successful.
    I bet they will call it Warcraft III: Reincarnated.
     
  3. Himperion

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    Wonder what happened to that "insider" promising great things for Reforged at the Blizzcon :ogre_hurrhurr:
     
  4. Footman16

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    You got a link for that?
     
  5. Ralle

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    I think it's time we stop expecting anything from Blizzard. This way we won't be disappointed because then they can't disappoint.

    People have been posting angry messages over Reforged for a long time now. I get it. You're disappointed. Who isn't? I am too.

    Hive is slowly transitioning from "the Warcraft 3 modding community" to "the community of people angry over Reforged". This is not productive, it is not healthy. Once again, I get it that you're disappointed. We know. You don't have to tell us.

    I know people who are leaving the community because they cannot take the negativity. I don't want Hive to be a negative place. Hive is a place for us to make maps and assets. Not a place where you go for your daily dose of dread and despair.

    Please I beg all of you,

    Make the best of it or go home
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  6. Tauer

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    I do get where you are coming from Ralle and I agree that the negativity shouldn't take over the site. If it were any other thread I'd be right there with you - that being said, I don't think it's unreasonable to voice frustration and disappointment over Blizzard's silence in this particular thread. I think it should be expected that Blizzard address Reforged, a product that they sold to customers and later abandoned, at this year's Blizzcon. The fact that they didn't is pretty insulting to the fans and where else to voice our frustration than the thread dedicated to the discussion of Blizzcon?

    I understand that it's frustrating to see negativity on a platform you're pouring your heart and soul into, and like I said it shouldn't take over everything. Spamming angry messages in irrelevant threads is not alright. But I think it's quite reasonable to voice disappointment in the relevant threads - such as this one.
     
  7. Ralle

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    I agree and I don’t judge people for being disappointed. I am well aware that anger correlates 100% with how much people care about this game.

    Yet it’s important to know the causality of your actions. Bringing the mood down. It’s been done day in and day out for more than a year and I think it’s time we cut our expectations. That way they can’t hurt us. And start building up the things that were broken and try to survive in this new reality.

    I get it Tauer. This is the thread for frustration. But there are many ways of showing it. You for example did it in a exemplary way.

    Anyway. I hope I at least make people think more on what their goal is with posting in the hopes that Hive will be a place where people come with joy and leave with the same or more joy.
     
  8. Tauer

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    I can respect this sentiment. I will try to focus more on the positives :)

    On that note, Resurrected looks... promising. I will never again pre-order a Blizzard game, but I will consider buying it when it comes out - if it lives up to what is being promised. The fact that they are actually remastering all the cinematics is pretty hype, not gonna lie.
     
  9. Ralle

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    Thank you. :goblin_yeah:

    Agreed. I am cautiously optimistic. I am excited to see if there are some new world events like Uber Diablo, Pandemonium Event, etc.

    I remember hanging out on sites like this to watch which servers Uber Diablo would walk on next and using tools to rejoin games until I hit a server with the right IP.

    I nerded that game to the extreme. I wonder what it'd be like in D2R.

    Crossing my fingers that it will be good.
     
  10. EredarArbeiterYU

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    lol, just stop it. Expecting Blizz to suddenly be the good guys again is just plain silly. How many times must they prove to you that they abandoned Wc3?
    This doesn't, of course, mean that we fans and gamers should also abandon it.
    But Blizzard just lead a drive-by shooting against Wc3 and then drove the fuck away onto other games never to come back again. And if they do come back, which as current evidence suggests they won't, there'd be 75% chance they'd just do more damage though I have no idea how that would even be possible rn.
     
  11. Kam

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  12. Kazeon

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    In recent interview they stated that they still have a team to work on Reforged. They still look forward to add more features to the game. So they seem to have not completely abandoned the game. They also revealed of why they cancelled the remastered cinematics (not sure if it's the first time they did). But honestly and personally as a modder, I only expected Reforged to make the WE more powerful which they delivered, minus the bugs; and improved graphic quality which also they delivered, minus the subpar performance. So in overall, I can't really be so disappointed. The things they need to fix/add now are just the missing custom campaign feature and a bunch of minor fix & improvements, and the modding scene will be ready to go again. Well I might be wrong here.
     
  13. Ralle

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    It can always be argued that Warcraft didn't deserve to be left in a ditch after a not very consentual one-night stand. But we'll manage with what we got.

    Yeah modding is actually pretty good. There's a project that allows you to write in TypeScript which gets compiled to Lua. So you can finally write your map code in a real language.
    Warcraft III - TypeScript
    People are hard at work on fixing this with a mod. @InsaneMonster knows more about this. Can you tell us how it works? I always get puzzled when I go to the Quenching website.
     
  14. MasterBlaster

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    If we're talking positives and hopes... Diablo 3. It survived its team being dismantled twice - first time at some point after the release of the Necromancer pack and another one fairly recently, because as far as I know, Diablo 3 was maintained by the Classic Games team.

    And yet, yesterday they announced a patch that revamps the Follower system in D3. It isn't anything huge, but it shows that even though Diablo 3 is an old game with very little ongoining monetization, it has still been given a little bit of love. Granted, Diablo aRPG is something they are clearly focusing on going forward, so it makes sense that they want to keep the D3 playerbase engaged, but then - they might not be RTS games, but WoW and Hearthstone are important to Blizzard too, so...

    What I'm getting at is that while I don't think we should expect anything big, I do believe that there is a team that works on Reforged. It's probably not big and transfering the development to it likely caused some delays, but sooner or later they should come up with something. Or at least that's what I hope.
     
  15. fenix140

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    Kam we all like this game, if not a long time ago the majority of users who are still in the community, we would have left a long time ago. As Grubby says the game is still kept as SC 1 by its community, and this will continue to be in effect until the game actually dies. Blizzard tried to bring the game to new versions of computers, with improvements, with workers from the same War 3 community. But certain internal errors could not consolidate the work as well.

    This does not mean that the game was broken, there are a lot of Add-On capable of including features to the game that was lost by this Version. Most people can follow your ideas and tools for future play.

    What most of blizzard wants now is for them to solve the bugs that exist in various maps, breaking them, the constant types of bugs that cause disconnection from the server, the low performance of the game in Reforged mode and the editor with many failures that instead to help improve a map this breaks it.

    PS: In my case I would like to implement the remaining native functions of the editor that still need to be integrated into the editor, such as the remaining management of the ui, skills management (silent, critical, evasion, farm, etc), buffs (dummys, time , counters, etc), attack and defense (missile control, formaula handling, etc), damage (damage without generating attack alerts, negative damage, etc), units and items (remaining upgrade functions for a single unit) , structures (construction site, time management training, etc), hotkeys.

    Greetings.
     
  16. superlich086

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    @EredarArbeiterYU Remastering Diablo 2 is way harder than wc3 because they lost the source code and assets of original game (How Diablo 2 Was Almost Lost, And Why A Remaster Is Less Likely)
    If they can remaster D2 properly then I am sure they can fix Reforged/or make another wc3 remaster.
    I personally think they are unlikely to fix Reforged because most mainstream people have refunded and its now extremely hard to get them back because mainstream media have given a lot of negative coverage to 'Reforged'. To attract mainstreamers, Blizz will make a new remaster which has a different name and logo so that people can just forget Reforged fiasco and start to trust Blizzard again.
     
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  17. Archian

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    I'm especially interested in the last part. That's why we are going to contact J. Allen Brack to get us in contact with that team.
     
  18. MasterBlaster

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    You know, I'd love to be as hopelessly optimistic as you are :)
     
  19. mori

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    It's my coping mechanism :)

    In all seriousness though, sharing the misery with like-minded people takes the edge off of it a bit. Reminds me I'm not the only one annoyed by all this.
     
  20. InsaneMonster

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    I think it's not possible to fix custom campaign. This mod you mention is an "hack" of the game, where they are just providing an UI to play consequent missions. As such, it needs an installer to hack the game and the campaign must be bundled by them. Because of that, it is probably going to feature only big projects. Still, better than nothing. To have again support for w3n files we 99% need Blizzard.