Bitter Woods

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Date: 2012/Mar/04 17:22:42

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[Ken-E]

Full Review Emerges

Nothing too new about this map, but its fun, quick, and good. There are enough neutral buildings to start off, robust creeps, and overall symmetrical. The Blue Dragon at the goldmines might be little extreme, either sides couldn't make expansion, I suggest you reduce them into a yellow creep camp, you should also set creep acquisition to 'camp' to avoid running your forces to your base, exception for the Goldmine creeps, let them be. The terrain may feels dull, there are too many empty spaces, try adding more trees and doodads, trees have spaces in between, allowing small units to hide that's generally bad I suppose (see screenshot). Item drops need tweaking, Blue Dragon gets level 4 item drop while Troll Warlord gets Artifact drop! Lastly, I suggest you make the neutral buildings atleast yellow creep camp.
EDIT: Also, the author is different from the one who made the map. :/
Good work on this map, 3/5

 

[sonofjay]

Map review


Terrain: 1/5

Your terrain wasn't really ugly but it really lacks on environment. There was to many plain part that can easily be fixed just by adding more of environment doodads(ex. rocks, shrubs, cattail, bush etc." also putting more props can hide the emptiness of the area"birds, firepit(this is very much needed because of the snow) and other stuff.

Used of tileset was really bad i guess, I don't really know what you are thinking on why did you use the brick tileset on a nature type of environment, so I guess you just put those tileset randomly.

Gameplay 1/5

The gameplay was fast and really much appropriate on the size of the map and I really like fast pace melee game. But it lacks of strategy and tactics as far as I know even a small melee map still need some strategy and tactics.

But here are the badthings that you had done.

Goblin Laboratories - This wasn't needed on a small melee map. I rather put a fountain there than the laboratories
2 Hero Tavern - A small map like this doesn't require 2 tavern, it would be better if you put the tavern at the middle instead of the marketplace
Neutral Unit placement - I guess the neutral unit place properly EXCEPT at the red camp, someone told me that a goldmine should only be defended by orange camp creeps and should never be defended by the red camp. Also item drop was appropriate on the creeps level EXCEPT again from the level 10 blue dragon, it should drop higher level item and not a level 4 item.

This melee map really give the fast-pace that mostly people want that I also want, but I still prefer a strategic melee map.


well I rate it 1/5

 

[Orcnet]

Bitter Woods (No Version/s Stated)

Rating System:

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	5/5	91-100	A

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	4/5	81-90%	B

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	3/5	75-80%	C

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	2/5	70-74%	D

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	1/5	50-69%	F

Overview:

Gameplay

Bitter Woods is an additional melee map created by Matt F and was uploaded by nolabel, which takes place on a Lordaeron Winter Set and can only be played by 2 players. Player 1 is in the south corner of the map while the other is placed in the north.

"The game style is decent, nothing much to explain in strategic feedbacks, but somehow I notice that creep levels are high in this map that makes 2 players to either disengage expansion sites or finish the game quickly, you should decrease creep difficulty by the size of playability next time or the other."

Terrain

"The map looks large for a 1v1 player since its lacks much environmental decors to be placed on, although the Northrend Snow weather made an impact ambient for it, you still need to add more doodads to give in a attractive view to players.

Management

"All in all, the game works well in-game, but a little tip about this map is that you should also add more trees, because its the first thing I noticed when gathering resources, second is what I already explained for creep difficulty, like those green labeled creeps guards Mercenary camps while orange labeled creeps are stationed in the fast tag locations which makes it imbalanced."

Total Score:

Rate	Score	Percent	Letter
	8/15	76%	C

Status: Pending for Map Moderators