Banjoball v1.18

[Legal_Ease]

Brilliant!!!

 

[Libertarian]

I uploaded a banjoball video to YouTube if anyone's interested. It's a highlight video of a clan match between Clan FEAR and GotE, two clans that play Banjoball on USEast server.

 

[Garfield1337]

Hey, that looks great.
Would you mind if I link the video in description as a gameplay demo, as the previous video is outdated?

 

[Libertarian]

Hey, that looks great.
Would you mind if I link the video in description as a gameplay demo, as the previous video is outdated?

Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video. You can use it however you want, I don't mind at all.

 

[Libertarian]

If the ball is powershotted in for a goal then bounces into the scoring team's net, the game glitches and no one can score again. Not sure if you knew about that. I encountered that bug a few times in the past couple of days.

 

[Garfield1337]

Hm, I think I saw that happening before without bugging. Thanks for the report, I'll look into it.

 

[Libertarian]

I encountered another bug where 2 Demon Hunters adjacent to one another sprinted at the same time a tree near them slammed and it sent the ball and 2 Demon Hunters into the air forever. Unfortunately I couldn't save the replay because the game crashed about 2 minutes later.

 

[cell_destroyer]

Bad ideas post:

-Ban hero option (1 for each team)
-No hero repeat option
-Remake option in-game
-Large field (alrdy being worked on)
-Street field wtih triangular area (wat)

Bad hero ideas:

-Ice Golem: Cold shoulder (knocks enemies + ball, kinda like thrust in warlocks)
OR
-Water elemental: Super slide (knocks enemies but not ball and has a bit farther range)
-Goblin Mechanic: Silencer/Hacks (silences one hero nearby for 3-4 seconds)
-Lich (GK): Float (Can levitate till a certain altitude for a while and then comes down, cant score while levitated but can pass)
-Paladin: Useless shockwave which shocks through a wave both enemies, allies n ball.
-Archer: Shoots ball into a certain place through the air with a long curve, but ball stops dead when hitting ground, has charging time like power shot. If aimed behind goalie cant score because op. (basicly long passes)

FOR NOW...

 

[I_am_Death]

i have played this map for sometime, and this is very good football map
4/5 :3

 

[WaterKnight]

Latest version (1.08) crits for me on map init (triggers).

 

[Garfield1337]

Latest version (1.08) crits for me on map init (triggers).

Fixed and updated to 1.09.

 

[WaterKnight]

What was it about?

 

[Spankfurt]

The Wisp is the single greatest idea that this map has ever seen!

 

[Weng]

Lookin' for a group to play with me via garena. garena id : weng1992 )

 

[Garfield1337]

Lookin' for a group to play with me via garena. garena id : weng1992 )

I mostly play on battle.net.
If anyone is interested, I just made a group on Garena. the ID is 382910.

 

[Luffy]

This might be a desperate question, but does this have AI?

 

[Garfield1337]

This might be a desperate question, but does this have AI?

Unfortunately not :c
It wouldn't be that hard to make, but it would take me some time and there some features I'm yet to add before AI. There also is an active community on battle.net playing this (although the activity kinda ceased because the summer is at end) so I didn't think there's a need for AI.

 

[Luffy]

Well, in my opinion, you could actually implement the AI if the community is slowly fading away. Because there will be some people still playing the stuff after summer and they would prefer singleplayer. Like me

 

[cell_destroyer]

Community isnt fading

Garfold post cooldown times of each ability, im thinking about tackle cooldown being too low.

 

[Luffy]

Read at least 2-3 posts above before blindly making one. Community is fading simply because the summer is at end and two of us are agreed about this.

 

[cell_destroyer]

Read at least 2-3 posts above before blindly making one. Community is fading simply because the summer is at end and two of us are agreed about this.

Very persuasive argument, convinced me, if i had just read that community is fading because summer is over i wouldnt be making stupid posts, and even two people agreed about it!

Too bad the 12 man games that keep getting hosted, do not agree with you

Cooldown of abilities ples, ninja backflip cd should be lowered and tackle perhaps increased.

 

[Garfield1337]

Community isnt fading

Garfold post cooldown times of each ability, im thinking about tackle cooldown being too low.

Backflip: 30
Blackhole: 40
Possess: 40
Powershot: 36
Pull: 28
Slam: 28
Tacke: 28
Super Sprint: 6

Also, I'll totally improve anti-cell trigger in v1.11.

 

[Libertarian]

Backflip: 30
Blackhole: 40
Possess: 40
Powershot: 36
Pull: 28
Slam: 28
Tacke: 28
Super Sprint: 6

Also, I'll totally improve anti-cell trigger in v1.11.

IMO tackle, blackhole, and sprint should maybe be a little bit longer. Powershot and backflip shorter. Ninja is like the worst hero now IMO other than powershot, because it's so easy to counter him with blackhole as goalie or a shaman to tackle the ball away from him. I also think if tackle had a longer cooldown it would make sorceress a more useful hero.

 

[Garfield1337]

I'll probably increase tackle cooldown then.
I don't think, though, that blackhole and sprint should have greater cd. Blackhole's cd is already the greatest and super sprinter relies on the sprint; with no normal sprint, a greater cd on super sprint would make him really weak.
Ninja also doesn't seem weak, it's not easy to defend goal from a backflipping ninja.

 

[Libertarian]

I'll probably increase tackle cooldown then.
I don't think, though, that blackhole and sprint should have greater cd. Blackhole's cd is already the greatest and super sprinter relies on the sprint; with no normal sprint, a greater cd on super sprint would make him really weak.
Ninja also doesn't seem weak, it's not easy to defend goal from a backflipping ninja.

Most people pick tree or blackhole as goalie and it pretty much completely negates Ninja, and he's basically useless on defense because he needs to be down field to score goals. Maybe making Ninja's sprint last longer could help.

 

[cell_destroyer]

So whats the changelog for 1.12 so far?
Game is still pretty active.

 

[Garfield1337]

So whats the changelog for 1.12 so far?
Game is still pretty active.

Won't be updating this for a while, too busy atm :<

 

[cell_destroyer]

Can we get a hotfix removing height system.
Everyones against it + it would make ninja more useful :/

 

[Garfield1337]

Can we get a hotfix removing height system.
Everyones against it + it would make ninja more useful :/

What's wrong with it? Maybe the values just aren't accurate.

 

[cell_destroyer]

height is too much, ninjas useless

and goalie probably needs shorter ''arms'', if u know what i mean

 

[Libertarian]

I created a steam community for Banjoball if anyone is interested in joining it to help schedule games, etc. We are also trying to host a Banjoball league/season, all are invited.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/banjoball

 

[cell_destroyer]

Ok so lets have a bad cell idea post:

-Increase blackhole cd from 40 to 45-50
-Increase tackle cd from 28 to 30
-Lower down height system significantly (just a lil more than the older versions pls)
-Change ninjas sprint to normal and give him windwalk ability with 0.5 sec fading time that lasts for 4 seconds (an anti-maphack system would have to be implemented). Cooldown 33 seconds.
-increase collision size on Swap's spell.

Bad hero suggestion ideas:

Samurai Hero

Blade Spin - Picks up all heros around him for 3 seconds (he can move while spinning). If he touches the ball while spinning it is pushed away. After the spinning is done all heros are pushed away. Cooldown is 35 seconds.
Magic Katana - When clicked it will shoot ball but it will split into two, a real one and a fake one (only allies can tell which is fake one, it will be colored blue). Both balls go off at an angle of 45º. Fake ball fades away after 5 seconds. Cooldown 36 seconds.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/ronin-50824/?prev=search=Samurai&d=list&r=20

Pudge Hero (The originality is overflowing)

Hook - It shoots a hook into a certain range which can pull enemies or the ball towards himself (i dont know if allies). Cooldown is 28 seconds.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-239473/?prev=search=abomination&d=list&r=20

Time Hero

Time Stop - It reduces every character's movement speed for in-game (Except caster) for 5 seconds, it doesn't reduce ball speed. Cooldown is 40 seconds.
Time Travel - It activates a timer that will make you return to the place you casted the spell in after 3-5 seconds. Cooldown is 40 seconds.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/slannesh2-49557/?prev=search=Wizard&d=list&r=20

Pirate Hero

Cannonball - Shoots up a ''mortar'' into the air which will land in a certain AOE, and it will explode pushing everything away, whoever's holding ball will lose posession of it. Cooldown: 35 seconds.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/skins-552/barbosa-61964/?prev=search=Pirate&d=list&r=20

Sharpshooter hero

Snipe: Can only be done while holding ball. It will home at the target (if its an ally it homes towards him) at a decent speed, with infinite range. It will smash back once it hits that ally. Cooldown: 35 seconds.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/riflemanelite-49808/?prev=search=Rifleman&d=list&r=20

Sumo Panda Le banjew hero (Eh... ok this one not so much, dat model tho)

Judo Throw: Grabs target ally/enemy and throws him a large range away.

Model: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...-130784/?prev=search=sumo%20panda&d=list&r=20

 

[Hksaru]

I don't agree with Blackhole's cooldown being increased at all. It's fine. Perhaps a slight nerf to its radius though.

I believe if the Sorceress were given a balance-tested acceleration factor to her link ability, she would no longer be able to simply be spun around by her target, and actually become a useful character in that regard. Her long-distance mobility at the moment is decent but she can't 1v1 for shit.

The Swapper is a little underpowered at the moment as the projectile is overly difficult to hit. I'd suggest increasing the width of the projectile somewhat at least, if not other changes.

Powershot is also slightly underpowered in that her special is usually easily predictable, whether you've got opponents near or far; I'd say cut the cast time by 25-50%. Or whatever works.

Please fix up the 5v5 map. I've said it before and I'll say it again; the edges (uneven water) and nets (awkwardly placed rocks and shit) make it unplayable.

 

[Spankfurt]

I agree with pretty much every balance change Hk brought up - the meta is still fun because of the dimensions of play in the game, but half of the different champs aren't used because they're extremely ineffective against people who know how to nullify their abilities

Most of Cell's new idea's were pretty good too, and I'm sure they'd work with some tweaking and testing in-game. I'd like to put forward one that he didn't bring up though and that I think you've probably heard about;

The Curve shot, or crossing champ.

Basically he has two spells, each with a 12 second cooldown. One is a curve pass that curves about 45 degrees in from the left, reaches its apex at the halfway mark of the balls trajectory, and then finishes its course on or a few yards past where a normal straight pass would have ended up. His other spell would be a copy of this but curving in from the right.

This would open up many new possibilities for great passing plays and to nullify the defensive block teams can sometimes make when they have 4 bodies behind the ball and crowding the box (thwarted only by the tree or black hole usually). It would also allow for more plays from wide areas in the final third, such as accurate crosses curved around defenders and the keeper to arrive at the feet of players for one-time shots, which is quite hard to do right now unless you perfect the wall-pass.

I don't know which fucking model you would use for this, I suppose it doesn't matter. Maybe just the normal male human model?

 

[Libertarian]

I agree with pretty much every balance change Hk brought up - the meta is still fun because of the dimensions of play in the game, but half of the different champs aren't used because they're extremely ineffective against people who know how to nullify their abilities

Most of Cell's new idea's were pretty good too, and I'm sure they'd work with some tweaking and testing in-game. I'd like to put forward one that he didn't bring up though and that I think you've probably heard about;

The Curve shot, or crossing champ.

Basically he has two spells, each with a 12 second cooldown. One is a curve pass that curves about 45 degrees in from the left, reaches its apex at the halfway mark of the balls trajectory, and then finishes its course on or a few yards past where a normal straight pass would have ended up. His other spell would be a copy of this but curving in from the right.

This would open up many new possibilities for great passing plays and to nullify the defensive block teams can sometimes make when they have 4 bodies behind the ball and crowding the box (thwarted only by the tree or black hole usually). It would also allow for more plays from wide areas in the final third, such as accurate crosses curved around defenders and the keeper to arrive at the feet of players for one-time shots, which is quite hard to do right now unless you perfect the wall-pass.

I don't know which fucking model you would use for this, I suppose it doesn't matter. Maybe just the normal male human model?

The only problem I have with a hero like this is that it's one-dimensional in the sense that it can only be used for passing. Every other ability can be used in a variety of different ways. I do agree that curved passes should be added in somehow though.

 

[Garfield1337]

Thanks for the ideas. I'll try to implement them once I start updating banjo again, which unfortunately won't be soon

 

[Spankfurt]

The only problem I have with a hero like this is that it's one-dimensional in the sense that it can only be used for passing. Every other ability can be used in a variety of different ways. I do agree that curved passes should be added in somehow though.

Maybe giving the Powershot curve passes ontop of his Powershot would increase his effectiveness and relevance? I'm just brainstorming here, it might make him beyond OP

It could make him a great deep-lying player (Playing defensively mainly) and would force teams to take up formations to try to counter him and watch the runs of his team-mates, as he could pick them out with power-shots or curved passes

 

[Libertarian]

I also think the black hole hero needs to be nerfed a bit. Maybe a smaller "catching range" for the hero and smaller AoE for the black hole would work. Right now that hero is OP for goalkeeping. There's pretty much no reason to choose any other hero to goalie except Shaman but it's very difficult to goalie with Shaman, whereas it's pretty simple to goalie with black hole.

 

[cell_destroyer]

I also think the black hole hero needs to be nerfed a bit. Maybe a smaller "catching range" for the hero and smaller AoE for the black hole would work. Right now that hero is OP for goalkeeping. There's pretty much no reason to choose any other hero to goalie except Shaman but it's very difficult to goalie with Shaman, whereas it's pretty simple to goalie with black hole.

YES, SHORTER ARMS FOR BH GOALKEEPER!

I am eagle

 

[Garfield1337]

I did some brainstorming and came up with 1.12 changelog:

v1.12

Anti-cell trigger v2.00

 

[cell_destroyer]

I did some brainstorming and came up with 1.12 changelog:

v1.12

Anti-cell trigger v2.00

Meh, i thought we were already at 3.0

 

[Garfield1337]

Do you want the 3.0 version?

 

[I_am_Death]

Do you want the 3.0 version?

3.0 is great D

 

[cell_destroyer]

Do you want the 3.0 version?

As long as it comes with 3v3 street banjo smaller map with triangular areas.
Street
Banjo

 

[cell_destroyer]

garfold 420 blaze it
did ur semester end
the community is still very much alive

 

[-Kobas-]

Map rating increased from 3/5 to 5/5.
Have a nice day.

 

[warcraftboy]

Garfield~

Garfield, While playing the game, I heard an odd sound.

What is the sound that 'America fuck yeah~'.?

I love this map. plz let me know that.

 

[Garfield1337]

Garfield, While playing the game, I heard an odd sound.

What is the sound that 'America fuck yeah~'.?

I love this map. plz let me know that.

It's a joke I made for a friend who used to play Banjoball. He likes America in a satirical sense, so if a player named like him ("Trinnin") scores, a part of this song is played: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8
It also works if team is named like him.

 

[Spankfurt]

Garf released the beta of a new version, with mixed receptions from the regular community on U.S east

Changes include; Nerf to blackhole. It's now meant to be more predictive than a reactionary get out of jail free card

Buff to Ninja jump so that he can shoot more effectively and doesn't get robbed by anyone and anything he jumps around

Sorceress pull buffed, sped up slightly

Buff to Swapper projectile
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If I'm missing anything, Garf will probably update you on it. We encourage anyone else interested in the map to give it a try, or to come around clan GoTE or clan FEAR on U.S east and play some games with us

 

[Assassins-Creed]

Ideas:
Make a draft mode where red/green pick their players in game.
Make it so red/green can force people into observer mode when in draft mode.