[Strategy / Risk] Azeroth: Fires of War

[Wasabee]

If he would replace the Silithid faction I will better choose Draenei to balance the factions in Kalimdor.

 

[Budbuds]

If he would replace the Silithid faction I will better choose Draenei to balance the factions in Kalimdor.

I want Draenei really bad, It's just that they would be right next to the Night Elves leaving the horde to rule all of south Kalimdor. The Silithid and Draenei are both factions I have never seen used in any open Azeroth map.

The Zandalari will be able to convince most of the Troll nations to join them.

Here Undercity.

Screenshot

 

[Leo Akastenix]

Much better!! Undercitys mich better.

So.. the Scourge will be hostile. Put loke of the Forsaken destroys Frozen Throne, a lot of unded will fall under their rule

 

[Wasabee]

I want Draenei really bad, It's just that they would be right next to the Night Elves leaving the horde to rule all of south Kalimdor. The Silithid and Draenei are both factions I have never seen used in any open Azeroth map.

The Zandalari will be able to convince most of the Troll nations to join them.

I'll post a screenshot of the Improved Undercity within a few minutes.

Draenei is a must have faction. Just make Silithid a neutral ground. Powerful monsters could be lurking in Southern Kalimdor to make it a formidable place.
This could be a possible solution in The Horde from having an advantageous location.


Want to see pinkish trolls. The good thing about Zandalari is that they highly civilized and all trolls are welcome in Zuldazar.

I can't wait to see the new Undercity.
Edit: It looks great though it need it be more creepier. It feels a little empty in some parts. Additional bones, pipes, rack of armor, sticks, and other undead doodads wouldn't hurt.

 

[Budbuds]

Much better!! Undercitys mich better.

So.. the Scourge will be hostile. Put loke of the Forsaken destroys Frozen Throne, a lot of unded will fall under their rule

The map will be a free for all and anyone can ally if they wish but that will be limited to Alliance based factions, Horde Based Factions and monster based factions.

I wasn't sure what to do with the Rogues quarter so I left that area a little blank for now and once I get all the units in I'll see what I can do in the empty space.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

Draenei is a must have faction. Just make Silithid a neutral ground. Powerful monsters could be lurking in Southern Kalimdor to make it a formidable place.
This could be a possible solution in The Horde from having an advantageous location.


Want to see pinkish trolls. The good thing about Zandalari is that they highly civilized and all trolls...

South can have Slithids and Thunder Wyrms..

Some suggestions...
-The Horde can destroy Blackrock Spire and recurit Blackrock Orcs(blacker orcs,[Blackrock Grunts, warlocks and e.t.c]), Dreadmaul Rock and receive the Firegut Quarters[Red ogres, Firegut Maulers and Magis]).

-Zandalari can get the Zul"'Gurub Sand trolls and aummon Grazhilla, Get Zul'Aman and receive loas and Zuldrak for ice trolls.

-Vurkyuls can destroy the storm peaks to gain access to Earthen Dwarves( Just get the dwarves to a bluer state) and Storm Giants.

-Humans can go to northrend and establish Dalarn.

-YoggSaron can claim Twilight Hifhlands and gain access to Twilight Hammers and go nuts with em

 

[Budbuds]

South can have Slithids and Thunder Wyrms..
Some suggestions...
-The Horde can destroy Blackrock Spire and recurit Blackrock Orcs(blacker orcs,[Blackrock Grunts, warlocks and e.t.c]), Dreadmaul Rock and receive the Firegut Quarters[Red ogres, Firegut Maulers and Magis]).
-Zandalari can get the Zul"'Gurub Sand trolls and aummon Grazhilla, Get Zul'Aman and receive loas and Zuldrak for ice trolls.
-Vurkyuls can destroy the storm peaks to gain access to Earthen Dwarves( Just get the dwarves to a bluer state) and Storm Giants.
-Humans can go to northrend and establish Dalarn.
-YoggSaron can claim Twilight Hifhlands and gain access to Twilight Hammers and go nuts with em

I'm coming up with ideas for events as I go, For Dalaran the Blood Elves will also be able to have it and get the Sunreavers, If the humans get there first they get the Silver Covenant. Dwarves can Get Muradin in Storm Peeks. There will be A lot more but I'll plan them out as I go.

I have redone some of the forsaken units and added a hero. here's a screenshot.

Screenshot

The Zandalari Buildings and island are done. I'll finish the units and post screenshots tomorrow.

The Zandalari Units are finished, I'm working on heros for the Zandalari and for the tribes the Zandalari can unite.
The screenshots are up at the beginning.

 

[Razosh]

Looks fantastic can't wait to see more. As for the Vrykul getting the dwarven, I don't know it would seem more logical if they got the Iron Vrykul and Razorscale. It would be fun to see a proto-drake hero.

 

[Budbuds]

Looks fantastic can't wait to see more. As for the Vrykul getting the dwarven, I don't know it would seem more logical if they got the Iron Vrykul and Razorscale. It would be fun to see a proto-drake hero.

I can try to see if someone can modify the proto drake model to get a blue proto drake hero.

Also any ideas for what units and heros the Zandalari can acquire by uniting troll kingdoms?

 

[Razosh]

I can try to see if someone can modify the proto drake model to get a blue proto drake hero.

Also any ideas for what units and heros the Zandalari can acquire by uniting troll kingdoms?

Dakaram Jin'doh, Hakkar, Zul'Jin etc.

 

[Budbuds]

I'm going to give the trolls a break for now. What faction next, Dwarves, Humans, Horde, or Night Elves.

 

[Razosh]

Kal'dorei okease, ^^

 

[Budbuds]

Kal'dorei okease, ^^

Ok I'll do Night Elves. I got a lot of ideas for all four of those factions. I'm working on the cities right now and I'll start working on the Night Elf stuff later or tomorrow.

I'm thinking a balance of Sentinel's, Druids and maybe highborn mages. and the 3 specializations will be Strength of Elune, Strength of Nature, and Strength of Magic.

 

[Wasabee]

Awesome.

 

[Razosh]

Ok I'll do Night Elves. I got a lot of ideas for all four of those factions. I'm working on the cities right now and I'll start working on the Night Elf stuff later or tomorrow.

I'm thinking a balance of Sentinel's, Druids and maybe highborn mages. and the 3 specializations will be Strength of Elune, Strength of Nature, and Strength of Magic.

Wait, wait, wait... hold on... the highbourne didn't become accepted into kal'dorei society until the Cataclysm. If I could make one recomendation it's that you use some other specialization unit, Wardens would work fine.

 

[Budbuds]

Wait, wait, wait... hold on... the highbourne didn't become accepted into kal'dorei society until the Cataclysm. If I could make one recomendation it's that you use some other specialization unit, Wardens would work fine.

True. The warden specialization could be more melee.

Here are some early alpha screenshots of Ironforge, Stormwind, and Darnassus.

Screenshots

 

[Razosh]

Looks great, Ironforge might not be the most groundbreaking thing I've ever seen but it does the job. Though I would have loved to see the lava river that is in WoW.

 

[Wasabee]

Nice start for the capitals, though the walls in Darnassus a bit out-of-place.

 

[Razosh]

Nice start for the capitals, though the walls in Darnassus a bit out-of-place.

Yeah you're right, in WoW the city has white walls.

 

[Wasabee]

How about this?

 

[Razosh]

How about this?

Looks much more similar to the original wall. I'd say use that one instead.

 

[Wasabee]

I'll promote custom models for the aesthetic side of the map and to support our beloved modellers though we need to take note of the filesize.

 

[Razosh]

I'll promote custom models for the aesthetic side of the map and to support our beloved modellers though we need to take note of the filesize.

Sadly file-size is a constant issue that we face.

 

[Wasabee]

Sadly file-size is a constant issue that we face.

Too bad. Though there are compressors that might help.

 

[Budbuds]

Yea the file size is going up but there is only one more faction that really needs a lot of custom models. The rest will just be hero.

I'll get that wall for Darnassus.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

Gnomegran(Nerubian Ziggraut, a litt yellow)?
Dwarves can capture it. Protected by troggs(just tint Razormanes a litt' black). Just put some workshops and blacksmiths(doodad) and some ruins and u be done..

Blackrock Spire?
The left side could have black tinted towers(those stormwind towets)along with black tinted blacksmiths and an area for Ragnoras. The right could have Blacktinted orcs and the Blackrock Spire(The Barrens Throne?). Also add some Smolderthorn( forest troll) and Fireguts(red tinted ogres) and a couple of war mills(can be black tinted) and some orc barracks then it looks nice.

Some suggestions..

 

[Razosh]

Gnomegran(Nerubian Ziggraut, a litt yellow)?
Dwarves can capture it. Protected by troggs(just tint Razormanes a litt' black). Just put some workshops and blacksmiths(doodad) and some ruins and u be done..

Although I like the idea it's a bit impractical from a gameplay standpoint since there really is no-one who would be able to stop the dwarves from taking Gnomeregan since they start right next to it. I would much rather prefer if lets say they were able to recruit the Earthen or the Highlands dwarves.

Blackrock Spire?
The left side could have black tinted towers(those stormwind towets)along with black tinted blacksmiths and an area for Ragnoras. The right could have Blacktinted orcs and the Blackrock Spire(The Barrens Throne?). Also add some Smolderthorn( forest troll) and Fireguts(red tinted ogres) and a couple of war mills(can be black tinted) and some orc barracks then it looks nice.

Some suggestions..

That is actually a great suggestion, the Horde could have a mission to recruit the true Horde and the nagas, Silithid and Faceless Ones could have the mission to recruit Ragnaros.

 

[Budbuds]

Blackrock mountain will be a interior that also acts as a pass from Searing Gorge to Blasted Lands. I haven't gotten to the interior yet but I will use those ideas. Shadowforge City could be there too but since it is so close to the Dwarves already. I think it will just be creeps.

The Dwarves have to find Muradin in Northrend, and the leader of the Windhammer clan at Airie Peek (pls tell me if I spelled that wrong). They start will Magni, and Brann.

 

[Razosh]

It's spelled "Aerie Peak" and it is Wildhammer and not Windhammer.

 

[Budbuds]

It's spelled "Aerie Peak" and it is Wildhammer and not Windhammer.

Thank you. I didn't know how to spell Aerie Peak and for Wildhammer, I guess I wasn't paying attention. lol.

Edit: Darnassus now has white walls.

 

[Razosh]

Sound great, want to show us some updated screenshots?

 

[Budbuds]

Here is Darnassus with white walls

Screenshot

 

[Razosh]

Nice, it looks much more like the real deal now.

 

[Budbuds]

Nice, it looks much more like the real deal now.

Thanks. I'm going to be gone for a couple hours.

Edit: I'm back. In the Stormwind Screenshot I forgot to point out that the Dwarven district is ware the castle will be, because the Humans and Dwarves are not allied in this world. (Or they don't start out allied but you can ally if you want to.)

Edit2: The Night Elf units and buildings are done but what heros should they have other than Tyranda and Malfurion? Also should I use some Gilnean buildings or just stick with the default ancients.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

Gilneas buildigs could be used as Gilneas could just use default blackened wc3 human buildings.

I think they could have Shandris?
A Path for Night Elf could be that they became corrupted by the legion and turns into satyrs along with a demon army. Malfurion and Tyrande may join the Alliance or just replace them with Xavius and Azhara

 

[Razosh]

Edit2: The Night Elf units and buildings are done but what heros should they have other than Tyranda and Malfurion? Also should I use some Gilnean buildings or just stick with the default ancients.

I still think this is a pretty good list.

Naga: Queen Azshara, Lestharia Vashj and N'Zoth.
Faceless ones: Yogg-Saron, General Vezax and Herald Volazj
Silithid: C'Thun, Prophet Skeram, Emperor Vek'lor and Vek'nilash
(The Old Gods could also work as the capital structure being able to cast spells with increased power as well as perform normal function)
Dwarves: Falstad, Magni Bronzebeard and Moira Thaurissan.
Humans: Jaina Proudmore, Varian Wrynn and Rhonin.
Forsaken: Sylvanas Windrunner, Varimartharas and Nathanos.
Sin'dorei: Lor'Themar Theron, Zendarin Windrunner and Aethas Sunreaver.
Zandalari: King Rastakhan, Zul and Jin'Rokh.
Horde: Thrall, Cairne Bloodhoof and Varok Saurfang.
Kal'Dorei: Tyrande Whisperwind, Malfurion Stormrage and Shandris Feathermoon.
Scourge: The Lich King, Sapphiron and Kel'Thuzad.
Vrykul: King Ymiron, Syreian the Bonecarver and Skadi the Ruthless.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

I think Horde needs Voljin...for they need ta trolls..
Zandalari could receive LeiShan

 

[Wasabee]

I think Horde needs Voljin...for they need ta trolls..
Zandalari could receive LeiShan

Darkspear tribe should be in the Horde instead in Zandalari.

 

[Budbuds]

The horde are starting with Orgrimmar, Echo Isles, and Thunderbluff. I'm thinking they will start with Thrall, Vol'jin and either Cairne or Saurfang, and they might be able to acquire Garrosh in northrend.

As for the Night Elves I'm thinking Shandris will be the other starting hero for the Night Elves. and they should be able to acquire another hero somewhere. I'm thinking of using a couple of Gilnean buildings like towers and a couple other buildings because ancients are just not working well in Darnassus.

 

[Razosh]

The horde are starting with Orgrimmar, Echo Isles, and Thunderbluff. I'm thinking they will start with Thrall, Vol'jin and either Cairne or Saurfang, and they might be able to acquire Garrosh in northrend.

Speaking from personal preference alone I'd much rather have them start with Cairne, Vol'Jin and Thrall and find Saurfang in Northrend.

As for the Night Elves I'm thinking Shandris will be the other starting hero for the Night Elves. and they should be able to acquire another hero somewhere. I'm thinking of using a couple of Gilnean buildings like towers and a couple other buildings because ancients are just not working well in Darnassus.

You could also always switch out either Shandris or Malfurion for Maiev Shadowsong. However I think it would be rather weird to involve Gilneas since this is WotLK.

 

[Budbuds]

The Gilnean buildings are models that are based of the human builings but look very elven. Just because I can't get Darnassus to look good with ancients.

Edit: Also I didn't think Ironforge was good enough so I'm making it a interior and make Dun Morogh much better.

Edit2: I got a lava model........ Also guess who's who.

Screenshot

Don't worry there not all warriors.

 

[Leo Akastenix]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/mountain-dwarf-runebreaker-252762/?prev=d%3Dlist%26r%3D20%26c%3D5%26t%3D1
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[Razosh]

Who is who, that one's tough. Center I'd guess is Magni Bronzebeard, left I'd guess is Muradin and right Falstad?

 

[Budbuds]

Who is who, that one's tough. Center I'd guess is Magni Bronzebeard, left I'd guess is Muradin and right Falstad?

...Wow

 

[Razosh]

...Wow

How many of them did I get right?

 

[Wasabee]

Idk who's who.

 

[Budbuds]

How many of them did I get right?

All of them. I'll finish Ironforge today and now that I got lava it will look much better.

 

[Razosh]

All of them. I'll finish Ironforge today and now that I got lava it will look much better.

Awesome can't wait to see the screnshot. I really based my guess on the fact that Magni would be centered in the middle, Muradin looked extremely similar and the only other male dwarf warrior of any fame I could think of was Falstad.

 

[Budbuds]

Awesome can't wait to see the screnshot. I really based my guess on the fact that Magni would be centered in the middle, Muradin looked extremely similar and the only other male dwarf warrior of any fame I could think of was Falstad.

The model for Falstad in my opinion wasn't the best but its not horrible. I'm thinking he will be able to summon a gryphon pet. Muradin is acquire able in the Storm Peaks. Along with a small base there. I just realized how many factions will want to get to northrend.

 

[Razosh]

The model for Falstad in my opinion wasn't the best but its not horrible. I'm thinking he will be able to summon a gryphon pet. Muradin is acquire able in the Storm Peaks. Along with a small base there. I just realized how many factions will want to get to northrend.

Yea, that place will probably end up becoming a hell of a battlefield. Though to be technical that is what happened in Wrath of the Lich King which is when this map takes room.