ArcherRider

[Moderator]

12:19, 6th Jul 2014
MiniMage: Fix the clipping of the animations. The woman with the bow should not keep sliding through the deer.

15:47, 9th Dec 2014
MiniMage: Hm, it has been improved a lot. Just fix the attack animation, because it looks a little weird when the horns get in the way of the arrow when the archer releases its arrow.

02:22, 3rd Jan 2015
MiniMage: Hm, it has been improved yet again. However, your fix that you thought of is incomplete. It can't move its head in that way without balancing it out by moving it's right front and hind legs to the side as it sways its head to the side. Shouldn't be that difficult of a fix. ;D

11:30, 12th Sep 2015
MiniMage: Setting to needs fix as requested.

 

[Splub]

This is unique, Night Elves don't ride enough stags I say.

I like it! Keep up the good work!

 

[Hantoo]

lol archer riding stag isnt it awesome?

 

[BLazeKraze]

The feet , where is the feet of the archer ???

 

[Hantoo]

The feet , where is the feet of the archer ???

?? the feet?

 

[Dark-Zalor]

on the viewer I see a pink cone?
Is it normal??

 

[Kyrbi0]

This is... Good and bad.

A NE riding a Stag makes total sense... But I'm afraid her bow clips incredibly during almost every animation. :< Also, "I find her lack of legs... disturbing".

What program are you using to combine models like this?

 

[Misha]

i guess, 'matrix eater'? =P

 

[InfernalTater]

I would prefer to see a more literal interpretation, with a stag riding an archer.

Still, this is good, too, I guess. It's not very original at all, but it's theme makes sense and can serve to be useful.

Has some issues, though, like the clipping of the bow through the stag. It looks like you just stuck the archer onto the stag and called it a day.

2/5.

 

[Hantoo]

lol... i need to learn how to tweak animation first xd

ehh? i see the legs in model editor... maybe it only don't appear in the viewer?
i tested it.. the leg does appear in game...
i think is viewer issue

 

[IllidanTheBetrayed]

This is... Good and bad.

"I find her lack of legs... disturbing". QUOTE]


Lol

 

[Edge45]

This is... Good and bad.

A NE riding a Stag makes total sense... But I'm afraid her bow clips incredibly during almost every animation. :< Also, "I find her lack of legs... disturbing".

What program are you using to combine models like this?

He's right,
I do like the deer, but the archer is, hmm what Kyrbi0 said

 

[Fingolfin]

Ugh, no legs, mesh deformations, LOTS of clipping, overal poor quality. Vote for rejection.

The concept is good though, but i have a feeling this has been done before.

 

[Sunreaver]

I love this very much 5/5
Maybe the next u can do is a Chimeara rided by Orcs

 

[A Void]

As always, the animations are robotic. The idea is quite neat. 3/5

 

[salihmezzi]

good but how you create that?

 

[HappyCockroach]

people dont mount horses like this, with the legs straight downwards...

you should bend her knees a bit or bend them considerably, both might work.

 

[Vinz]

The knees of the stag might need a little largen-ing (especially during in the Walk Animation), but the model looks awesome. Perhaps a hero version?

Also, the cape could be a little slenderer but longer.

 

[Hantoo]

people dont mount horses like this, with the legs straight downwards...

you should bend her knees a bit or bend them considerably, both might work.

thanks... I will work on it...

 

[humanitysector]

4/5

I like it!

 

[Fang]

Night Elven Archer Rider cool

 

[Direfury]

You should spend some time polishing your animations before you upload something. What you've got so far is decent, but a little practice would go a long way.

 

[Hantoo]

You should spend some time polishing your animations before you upload something. What you've got so far is decent, but a little practice would go a long way.

ok
btw, hows the Stag Walking (only the Stag)
It's my first 4 legged animation

 

[Direfury]

Good, but I'd suggest looking up a frame-by-frame view of how the animal moves, the way I did for my Templar Archer. I'm not used to horses, so I used that as a workaround.

 

[Hantoo]

Added attack animation with arrow , Dissapate

 

[Direfury]

Change the animation name to 'Dissipate'.

 

[Hantoo]

Change the animation name to 'Dissipate'.

Spelling Error Fixed
how's the new animation btw?

 

[Fingolfin]

Well, the clipping situation is better, the bent legs also look much better. One thing that bothers me though is the stand animation. Some good advice when making animations is that you do not let all movement change at the same keyframe. Like in your case, the stag and the archer hunkers in complete synchronization. That does not look natural. Instead, imagine that the stag is the one hunkering, while the archer is just being affected of the motion. In that case, the motion of the archer would be delayed relative to the stag. Overall, the motion of the waist comes first, then the motion of the torso, then the motion of the arms and head. Make sure the motion in the "backswing" is also delayed.

Also, look at the aimations for the human knight to see how you can add some sideways motion to the model in the stand animation, like it kinda swaying its butt back and forth. Because right now, when you look at the model directly from the top, there is no motion at all for the stag. You also have the problem of feet kinda floating around back and forth, which can be easily dealt with.

Right now i am only judging this based on the hive viewer, so pardon me if some of those issues do not actually appear ingame. Models in the hive viewer always look 200% worse.

 

[Hantoo]

thanks more tips

 

[Shar Dundred]

The legs of the deer... They look kinda disturbin'.

 

[Karassu]

You're good. I can't even animate a stick figure lolz.

 

[Hantoo]

The legs of the deer... They look kinda disturbin'.

? Where? can show me with screenshot or something?

You're good. I can't even animate a stick figure lolz.

Thanks!

 

[Vinz]

Awesome update. Thicker stag legs though, please. Also breathing should not normally affect the feet, probably the stomach?

 

[Moy]

Night elves ftw!

 

[HappyCockroach]

checked the model now, and you've done a good progress with the walk anim, it looks really fluid.

oh, and i must say it's nice how you take feedback into account and always polish your models the most you can. this is kinda rare to see around

 

[A Void]

Great update, I'm glad that you take feedback and make a progress out of it. The animations are a little better, some need major tweaking still. +rep

 

[Hantoo]

Great update, I'm glad that you take feedback and make a progress out of it. The animations are a little better, some need major tweaking still. +rep

checked the model now, and you've done a good progress with the walk anim, it looks really fluid.

oh, and i must say it's nice how you take feedback into account and always polish your models the most you can. this is kinda rare to see around

Well.. i have OCD, so to avoid myself OCD, First i have to make people not OCD

it's the Only for me to Improve

I will Improve the Stand Animation once I've done my exam
(FIX ALL DA MODEL!!!1)

 

[humanitysector]

Awesome update.

Make more night elf models! +rep

 

[Hantoo]

Updated, Better stand animation

 

[Vinz]

And the most awesome thing about this model that I probably missed is that the Stag actually dodges to the right when the archer shoots.

 

[FunkyDude44]

The attack animation looks fantastic. It could use some minor tweaks though, it's probably the one that needs the least love. Excellent attention to detail on that one.

You should really focus on revamping the walk animation to make it look more fluid. An animal's legs don't jet forward like that, and likewise both hind legs don't close in at exactly the same time. I'd take the advice that was given earlier and watch some videos of stags/elk or deer to get a really good feel for it. Also think of how the action of walking is made possible, by propelling yourself with each motion. Overall it needs fluidity which is what it severely lacks. The core concept is great, however. It makes sense and surprisingly isn't something I've seen before on the hive or anywhere else for that matter.

The spell channel animation is really weird looking though. I'll have to test it out in game, but it doesn't feel right for her to be floating in mid-air like that.

Clean this up and I'd say it's worth a good 4/5

Edit: Really what happy cockroach said too. You're awesome for taking the time to go back and go over the model and make it something special. It's things like that which matter and stand out here.

 

[Hantoo]

The attack animation looks fantastic. It could use some minor tweaks though, it's probably the one that needs the least love. Excellent attention to detail on that one.

You should really focus on revamping the walk animation to make it look more fluid. An animal's legs don't jet forward like that, and likewise both hind legs don't close in at exactly the same time. I'd take the advice that was given earlier and watch some videos of stags/elk or deer to get a really good feel for it. Also think of how the action of walking is made possible, by propelling yourself with each motion. Overall it needs fluidity which is what it severely lacks. The core concept is great, however. It makes sense and surprisingly isn't something I've seen before on the hive or anywhere else for that matter.

The spell channel animation is really weird looking though. I'll have to test it out in game, but it doesn't feel right for her to be floating in mid-air like that.

Clean this up and I'd say it's worth a good 4/5

Edit: Really what happy cockroach said too. You're awesome for taking the time to go back and go over the model and make it something special. It's things like that which matter and stand out here.

Walk Animation (For A Horse-like Animal) is not the Easiest thing in the World, though, that is not the Reason for me to stop xd, Will Do more tweak bout that, (Or More like Reanimate it). thx for the Feedback,

The Stand Channel is Meant for some spell like Leap or something
Maybe I will just Make a real Stand Channel for spell like Starfall or something? O.O

 

[MiniMage]

The hind legs needs to compensate for the movement at the front, dude. ;D
Still, nice work so far.

 

[Templassassin]

I <3 <3 <3 stag!!!!
4/5 because a bit wierd... but i love stag!

 

[FunkyDude44]

The Stand Channel is Meant for some spell like Leap or something
Maybe I will just Make a real Stand Channel for spell like Starfall or something? O.O

Oooh, cool. I actually really like that. I think it'd be cool to have a regular stand channel animation. I'll have to make a test map to integrate a leap spell before I can say anything more though. I'm interested to see how it will look in game. Keep up the good work on what's quickly becoming my new favorite model. xD

 

[Kenathorn]

That's nice man! I like the stag. I looks much more detailed then default critter!

 

[YingMM]

Hi, Hayate, deer rider archer is a wonderful and natural idea and I like it.
But could u spend some time to add refs (head, chest, origin ...) for this model? Otherwise, it cannot be used in an actual game.
Thank u so much.

 

[Bloodline1x9]

Some maps have Stags. This unit is ideal as a transformation for archers to mount on deer.