AI Ignoring Conditions

[Kam]

What would cause the AI to ignore conditions placed on priorities?

Attached is an example.

It trains two footmen despite one of the footmen having a requirement for another unit that has not been trained.

Tech 1 Only is a unit.

 

[mckill2009]

it can only ignore if the condition is false, if its null then it cant ignore it or stalemate...

 

[Kam]

So how would the above be restructured?

 

[mckill2009]

check your Tech1 maybe its true...what is Tech1?...

 

[Kam]

Tech 1 Only is a unit.

 

[mckill2009]

wait I didnt see that you created 3 footman, 1 with the condition 2 without so oviously
it will create 2 footman since Tech1 is false...

 

[Kam]

I'm not sure I understand. I have only created two footmen priorities.

When I test this in game it makes two Footmen. It is ignoring the condition for a Tech 1 Only to exist.

 

[mckill2009]

sorry my mistake, I read it wrong, I thought it was like this...
Footmen = 1
Footmen = 2 <<< correct
Total: 3 <<< wrong

check your map maybe your condition is true or you have a Tech1 somewhere...

 

[Kam]

I don't, that's the issue. The only way that unit gets added is through triggers that require commands to be entered.

 

[mckill2009]

that's really not possible, give me the object data and the ai file and I'll take a look tonight...
gotta go, I have work...

 

[Kino]

I honestly think its due a very trivial bug.

Im gonna suggest something as simple as change the condition from "greater than" to "greater than or equal to" and of course changing the number to 1 up from 0.
Sounds stupid I know, but the wc3 engine is known for random senseless bugs so its worth a try I guess.

 

[Kam]

So the wording of the conditions seems to make no difference. I discovered that it is actually following the conditions correctly. I discovered that the second Footman priority is actually causing the AI to build 2 units after the second barracks is complete.

Why is the order causing the AI to build 2?

Edit: Attached an example. It should only make one Footman as the second has a requirement that is impossible to fulfill.

 

[mckill2009]

now I know the problem, coz the LAST footmen is created after 2 barracks is
complete, the other footmen will be created as well coz NO FOOTMEN IS STILL
AVAILABLE after the 2 barracks is completed, so they will be trained at the same
time therefore you should change the...

Total number of barracks completed greater than 1 to >>> Total number of barracks greater than 1

in other words, erase the COMPLETED

 

[Kam]

It still trains 2.

 

[mckill2009]

I dont think so coz Ive tested it & it looks fine, but there are a lot of things that will work,
like this...

Total number of Tech1 completed greater than 0 and Total number of footman completed greater than 0

 

[Kam]

I downloaded the map you posted, opened it in the editor, hit Ctrl+F9 and got two footmen:

So is this a version issue or something?

World Editor: 1.21b 6052
Game: 1.26.06401
Using NewGen

 

[moyackx]

The AI process works in this way:

the building priorities is check periodically (every second), and it check the priorities, as more the order is in the top, the more chances is that this building will be done, before everything else.

Yes, it seems a "bug" in the AI, just you have to lower the footman condition and that's ready

Check the example attached

 

[Kam]

Can't open that, unknown method?

Also one of the things I'm doing is restricting unit production based on there being a single special dummy unit on the map for the player that is only added via triggers.

 

[moyackx]

Can't open that, unknown method?

Also one of the things I'm doing is restricting unit production based on there being a single special dummy unit on the map for the player that is only added via triggers.

One question is why you require that? if it's for controlling the to train or doing something you can do it with something really intended for that purpose and is the send AI command.

 

[Kam]

I have game modes that disable tech levels and so each AI file has 3 variations of the build queues and use the dummy units to restrict.

Will you re-attach the file?

 

[moyackx]

I have game modes that disable tech levels and so each AI file has 3 variations of the build queues and use the dummy units to restrict.

Will you re-attach the file?

hmmmm, then you can do this perfectly with the trigger SendCommand to AI.

It takes 2 arguments: command and data, both integers.

for example you define:

Commands: 2= reach tier 2; 3= reach tier 3
Data: 1 = enable; 0 = disable

So if you want that any AI reach level 3 then send via triggers this command at map init:

AI-Send AI command (3, 1)

Iv'e checked the file and it open properly.

 

[Kam]

I'm still not sure why these conditions aren't working. What is wrong? The Dummy units are placed via commands issued as a result of a vote. There is no other way for them to enter the map.