AI Editor

[VeljkoM]

Well all were fun, plus dwaren campaign except Nature Circle 2 is bugged because of patches. Though must point out that it is little off topic.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Sorry, just this last message: I played the dwarven but it is like RPG (anyway one of the best I've ever played), now playing Shards of Resistance, but came to the 3rd chapter and didn't find scripted AI yet. Still, it is very nice.

 

[VeljkoM]

Should be in maps with enemy bases so at least last map. I admit though there is a real lack of full AI as campaign AIs don't bother with upgrading unit, tier upgrading, switching to higher tier units or expansion bases. I still haven't figured how to order AI to make new base without some bug happening like building spam.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Should be in maps with enemy bases so at least last map. I admit though there is a real lack of full AI as campaign.

That I was trying to find, anyway there are good campaigns out there, waitting to be tested .

 

[Map Designer]

Should be in maps with enemy bases so at least last map. I admit though there is a real lack of full AI as campaign AIs don't bother with upgrading unit, tier upgrading, switching to higher tier units or expansion bases. I still haven't figured how to order AI to make new base without some bug happening like building spam.

My further investigation shows that the happens with the insane AI. In my previously mentioned orc AI case, insane AI spams both watch Tower and orc Burrow (Although I have stopped orc burrow spam through trigger). The normal AI does not spam watch towers.

EDTI: dude! you are the same tutorial maker! Did not notice that cuz you changed your avatar

 

[VeljkoM]

Think AI just loses its focus when trying to figure out what is expansion base and thus repeats the last order like Towers if you order him to build 2 mandatory towers, but the worst f he spams main building. Think this all just requires good condition. At least everything else works fine.

Yea I can't upload my old avatar for some reason so I am stuck with hive avatar. I am just glad people still read this and offer suggestions to fix it.

 

[Map Designer]

Now I remember 2 problems:
About AI expansion, here is what happens: AI builds expansion, and I go destroy it before it is complete, and then the AI never build it again. Not sure if he never build just the destroyed place, or if he never build at all. How do you think we can solve this? That applies even to melee AI made by blizzard

2) I remember that, in Sylvanus vs Virimarthrus, undead campaign TFT chapter 3~5 probably, the meat wagons stored corpses. do you how we can make the AI do that as well? I will be expirementing now with WE to find out. it is probably something like simple trigger that make unit do auto-cast of get corpse ability

 

[Map Designer]

*Sigh*
I order meet wagon to auto cast does not work with me!
I find: order necromancer to: raise dead, activate raise dead, deactivate raise dead.
I can as well find "order meet wagon to get corpses" and "order meet wagon to drop corpses"
However I cannot find any thing with activete/deactivate it :/

 

[VeljkoM]

Well Blizzard AI seems to have suffered with patches as I have seen many times human forgetting to reach tier 3. There is though chance he doesn't rebuild because he lacks resources or player simply kills units that are on list before expansion and thus AI is back on the start at rebuilding process.

Well AI editor can't order what spells to be used. Simplest thing would be to just make auto cast on in object editor instead of giving it turned off auto cast. Look at Meat wagon unit then Abilities-Default active ability.

 

[Map Designer]

I wonder if it is possible to run more than an AI, like Run AI.1 and then, probably ater X time or after some even, run AI.2

Edit: and my friend, I want you to comment on the experiment, I wanna see how true it is.

 

[Map Designer]

my friend, care to explain anything about night elven wisps and the gold min? I bet you know that when entangle mine is destroyed, the 5 wisps leave and never come back

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok about two AIs yes its possible with triggers, turn of one then start another.

That ability is coded in game engine though actually wisps should not be gone as far as I know. Custom night elf mines are bugged though at start of game as if it is destroyed the gold mine is gone to I think. Was long time since i experimented with warcraft editor though.

 

[Map Designer]

new thing came to my mind. I made upgrades based on troll berserker! Now, all I have to do to make the AI not have any problem is go tech tree equivalents and make them both equal?

 

[Map Designer]

hmmm.... copy/paste functions too bad for AI editor. No way we do it for multiple units? :/
probably opening it in other program or so, if possible. we can do with notepad or something?

EDIT: I could open it with notpade, but...ahh too complicated

 

[Map Designer]

O.K. Here is a saved game for Night Elven AI. I wont you to use "ISeeDeadPeople" cheat code and look at the night elves just after it loads. Do you know how we are supposed to overcome the bug where the night elves have idle workers and empty entangled gold mine? maybe we need to interfere with triggers, better not to though.


The Path for the map should be (D:\games\PC\War3\Warcraft III\)Maps\my maps

Edit: had to compress the saved game to zip :/

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok I tested it and AI worked fine for me, although I have complaints about the order Nelves used, should be altar, ancient of war, moon well, then wisps, then first hero and then archers.

 

[Map Designer]

yes the AI is fine, but did you see the save game? AI have idle workers and empty entangled mine...

 

[peter1987kh2]

Help

My english not very good, i am from malaysia
I add a "attribute bonus" and a self make skill to all heros
I change the level limit to 100
I realise that, they wont self use the attribute bonus and the skill that add into them.

how? Can you help me?

 

[VeljkoM]

Did you remember to export Object Editor data to the AI editor? Then in Ai editor you just select hero and in spell list you select what spells hero will learn.

 

[Map Designer]

Although I am not sure, I think AI leveling is limited to 10, and skills a hero use is limited (and must always be: no more, no less) to four skills. If that is true, you will have to make it level the skill up through trigger.

 

[Boris_Spider]

Although I am not sure, I think AI leveling is limited to 10, and skills a hero use is limited (and must always be: no more, no less) to four skills. If that is true, you will have to make it level the skill up through trigger.

I can second this, from what i remember. Anything above 10 has to be done via triggers since the melee-AI doesn't know what to do with extra skill points.

//\\oo//\\

 

[Map Designer]

I share same opinion. Also, three skills must have 3 levels each and the forth skill must have one level only.

That has made me some problems with my AI, for my newly made worrior hero has only three skills, with one of them having four levels. The AI cannot save since one of the abilities is unknown. To overcome this, I just imported a fake AI Data for my AI, giving the hero avatar as the an ultimate ability. Then, through trigger, I increase the level the skill with four levels when my hero reaches level 10 ( sorry if I used the word level too much)

Edit: However, sometimes an error message pops up when I try importing the AI to the map with the real data and saving it, but I just don't care as long as I can save it other times ^_^

 

[Perke]

How can i use conditions? What's it for?
I want to make Fel Orc AI , and make him attack with 2 fel orc warlocks , 2 fel orc raiders , 3 fel orc grunts , Do i need AI for that?

 

[Map Designer]

How can i use conditions? What's it for?
I want to make Fel Orc AI , and make him attack with 2 fel orc warlocks , 2 fel orc raiders , 3 fel orc grunts , Do i need AI for that?

Condition is basically an "If/Else" statement.

Example: Target of Wave: enemy main camp; Condition: number of fel orc grunt is greater than or equal 7

but hey, is that not already explained in first post, or you didnt read? -.-

 

[Necromancer125]

I want to make a dota map and i needed this. right or wrong??

 

[Grey Nightmare]

The AI editor is only really suitable for melee AI (building bases and training armies).

 

[Map Designer]

I want to make a dota map and i needed this. right or wrong??

The AI editor is only really suitable for melee AI (building bases and training armies).

so I guess... Wrong!

 

[slayerby]

You must first create in editor custom units and then extract that data from the map. Place the newly created file where you want and then open AI Editor go to "General Tab" and you'll see below "Custom Data:" and beneath it you'll see 3 buttons with one of them being "import". Click it then choose the data file you extracted earlier from the map.

i want to do exactly this for my map to make ai use custom units but there is o extract cutom files in my object editor> file> (not here)

 

[slayerby]

i want to do exactly this for my map to make ai use custom units but there is o extract custom files in my object editor> file> (not here)

sorry it was called export object data in the editor and i got it, thank you for tutorial it really helped, +rep

 

[Twilight]

Well I am Making a Custom race and I made a gold mine (Like the one on undead race) And I put it to test the harvesters dont mine they just sit there.

 

[Frozenbone52]

The Ais Are Good +rep

 

[Twilight]

Oh and I almost forgot to give rating
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Rating:
4/5

 

[steelknight999]

Is this needed to make a AoS?

 

[VeljkoM]

Uh no this is for campaigns or altered melee maps. In AoS case why not just make trigger that spawns units and sends them to move-attack?

This hasn't changed.

 

[lhuks]

Como eu faço para implantar um custom script em um custom map? E porque toda vez que eu vou jogar warcraft 3 frozen throne minha raça sai na cor azul independente da cor que eu escolha no painel "Custom Game".Me ajudem por favor!!!!!!!

 

[Map Designer]

Como eu faço para implantar um custom script em um custom map? E porque toda vez que eu vou jogar warcraft 3 frozen throne minha raça sai na cor azul independente da cor que eu escolha no painel "Custom Game".Me ajudem por favor!!!!!!!

lol
hello

 

[SLICED]

Hey, I tried making an AI Script so that I play with humans and my enemy is represented by the orcs... but instead my enemy is represented by the undead... I don't know why... and as well how do I work with those conditions in the general tab ? Thanks

 

[Map Designer]

Hey, I tried making an AI Script so that I play with humans and my enemy is represented by the orcs... but instead my enemy is represented by the undead... I don't know why...

I'm not sure what you mean in here. So, you made an AI for orcs, but when you started the game, the enemy was undead? well... select his race as orc before you start?

and as well how do I work with those conditions in the general tab ? Thanks

you make the condition. and then you go to the (prodocution or forgot the name) tab and right click and modify condition and choose one of your conditions.

so, lets say you want the ai build barracks only if he has 1000 gold. you put that as condition, and you go to the production tab, and make ai build barracks, and modify the condition.

(although i think this is explained in the first post) but anyway, there is an example Grunt Master, supposedly your warcraft III forlder. Haven't you seen it?

 

[ToastAddict1057]

Greetings,i have a few questions:

Can i make a specific player use my race?

How do i activate the AI?

Thanks,nice tutorial by the way

--Toasty

 

[VeljkoM]

Greetings,i have a few questions:

Can i make a specific player use my race?

How do i activate the AI?

Thanks,nice tutorial by the way

--Toasty

For some reason I can't look through Hive threads but you could check Techtree Competition #10 thread. On first page there should be link for the triggers about implementing race. There was also Race Choosing triggers in the spell section which I preferred to use.

Still it all comes to removing Melee Triggers that creates starting units. All you would need to do is create 5 worker units and main building at starting location of specific player.

As for activating AI there should be simple trigger that turns it on.

 

[ToastAddict1057]

Still it all comes to removing Melee Triggers that creates starting units. All you would need to do is create 5 worker units and main building at starting location of specific player.

So i need to delete the Computers's starting location and replace it with 5 workers of my race and 1 main building of my race?

And if i have the AI on will they use it?

Thanks.

--Toasty

 

[VeljkoM]

So i need to delete the Computers's starting location and replace it with 5 workers of my race and 1 main building of my race?

And if i have the AI on will they use it?

Thanks.

--Toasty

Why would you delete starting locations, that is pointless. What you need to remove is trigger

• Melee Game - Create starting units

Now if you are making Altered Melee Map you would need triggers to replace the deleted trigger. If it is something else (already set races, no random starting locations) then really you can just manually put units.

AI when turned on will use units that are placed in map.

 

[ToastAddict1057]

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EDIT: Nevermind it worked! thank you so much

 

[Nick5200]

"When building a base, you have to make sure the AI has enough room to place it's buildings. In the WE, this is a radius of about 4 squares (the large golden ones). It'll freeze if it can't place them all."

So that's why my Custom AI bloody freezes the game 50% of the time. I always thought it was because I put lots of build prioroties in it. Tho it would not immediately freeze the game, only when it would train First Hero, and it's attack wave would start.

 

[Pazuzu2010]

I search to ai editor download

 

[VeljkoM]

AI editor is part of standard wracraft editor, it is not a custom tool to download.

 

[Pazuzu2010]

oh thanx for your message.
I would like edit ai-files, because now I've solve problem.
Now I don't play WOW, Tombrider or other HIVE-game.
Because I'm very inresting in this forum.
It's exciting and fascinating.

Pazuzu

 

[Pazuzu2010]

Joke - Please laugh at.
Once upon It's live a nice little boy in little town of America. Everyone who saw him liked him, but most of all his granny. Because he prowled around, his granny called him "Tramp". Several years have elapsed. Today he's the new president of US. Nobody like him, and many people apparend him. Anywhere he called: TRUMP.
Based of Grimm's Brother.

 

[LordDz]

There's nothing funnier than a joke that you're told to laugh at.

Tho laughing tracks at shows are a close competitor.

 

[Fabrizio]

well im needing an AI to make a summoner summon a building on a location

can you tell me how to do that ?

use a detonator to give the summoning order depending on what you will invoke