Epic v.2.1285

Moderator · Jun 17, 2008

15:02, 18th Jun 2008
Ash:

This map bases around a story similar to Warchasers; you've died and have a shot to redeem yourself. In this you have to kill a man known as 'Lovecraft' and save the world of 'Epic', although apart from that no story is revealed to you.

The cinematic, for in-game, are pretty good; the boss fights are intriguing and original and the 'areas' massively differ. Although, it fails at that point.

This game requires constant grind; the xp rate is so low that to gain a level you're left grinding for hours; gold is not shared and neither are items. Not that I managed to find any of the latter of course.

The items are, as mentioned, lacking. Apart from first aid kits, tomes and a mana regen item, I couldn't find anything. This keeps things very repetitive, boring and static. I didn't enjoy running into pretty bland areas, grinding for an hour and still getting nothing.

The heroes themselves are extremely underpowered, lack fixed classes and are missing essential people such as healers. It takes a long time to kill the creeps and the small area made me intentionally kill my hero so that something different may happen, although this was to no avail.

All in all, ending this pretty short review, this map gains credit on the boss fights, cinematics and concept, although massively loses marks in the Pull off, hero depth, storyline and items. Sorting this out would make the map so much more.

2/5

Bumkt · Jun 17, 2008

theres no choice to watch the intro or not

MightyBobBarker · Jun 17, 2008

Hmmm...
That never happened during testing. I'll look into it.

BTW. Do you mean the dialog didn't show up, or no matter what you voted, it had the same outcome?

[EDIT: I just had the same problem. It looks like a random thing--I think it creates the buttons before it creates the dialog. I'll see if I can get it fixed.]

Code Lyoko · Jun 17, 2008

First comment!

Hmm... I try out this map. :slp:

Or hey - wait! This is RoC map! -_-

MightyBobBarker · Jun 17, 2008

Sorry if that displeases you. You'd be amazed how many people still play RoC (I'm one of them, even though I have TFT).

I like making my maps playable in both at first and then, if time permits, I add custom abilities for TFT. Before I make a TFT specific map, though, I want to make sure everything is balanced in the RoC version.

Ash · Jun 18, 2008

This map bases around a story similar to Warchasers; you've died and have a shot to redeem yourself. In this you have to kill a man known as 'Lovecraft' and save the world of 'Epic', although apart from that no story is revealed to you.

The cinematic, for in-game, are pretty good; the boss fights are intriguing and original and the 'areas' massively differ. Although, it fails at that point.

This game requires constant grind; the xp rate is so low that to gain a level you're left grinding for hours; gold is not shared and neither are items. Not that I managed to find any of the latter of course.

The items are, as mentioned, lacking. Apart from first aid kits, tomes and a mana regen item, I couldn't find anything. This keeps things very repetitive, boring and static. I didn't enjoy running into pretty bland areas, grinding for an hour and still getting nothing.

The heroes themselves are extremely underpowered, lack fixed classes and are missing essential people such as healers. It takes a long time to kill the creeps and the small area made me intentionally kill my hero so that something different may happen, although this was to no avail.

All in all, ending this pretty short review, this map gains credit on the boss fights, cinematics and concept, although massively loses marks in the Pull off, hero depth, storyline and items. Sorting this out would make the map so much more.

2/5

MightyBobBarker · Jun 18, 2008

Thanks for the review. I completely understand your point of view, I feel the same way myself and actually would've given myself a 1/5 compared to some of the other maps on here.

The only real version of the map that I play is coliseum mode (the code is "thumb of caesar" without the quotes for anyone who cares) where it's just the boss fights. I tried to make the game too difficult and, in doing so, made it too boring. I'll take what you've said into consideration and maybe significantly bump of the bounty, lower the difficulty, and increase the items for version 2 (if I can get around to it).

Ash · Jun 19, 2008

Your map isn't bad enough for a 1, by a long shot!

You just need to work on making things a lot more accessible and more user friendly (I.E Not a creep spawn everywhere you turn).

Keep up the work though!

EmawWyvern · Jul 7, 2008

Well I love the display picture for it and the terrain is nice, but the truth is its just a bad warchasers rip-off D:

MightyBobBarker · Jul 7, 2008

Apparently there's a bug in 2.1049 that messes up the bounty system. I'm surprised I didn't catch it until now. For now, I'll upload 2.1051 that reverts to an older and working but more buggy version of the bounty system until I can get the newer one fixed.

@EmawWyvern

I'm amazed you even made it past the first boss with the bugs in the bounty system. Thanks for the comments. Any little hint of information that can make the map better is welcome.

Thick_Armor · Jul 7, 2008

Mighty, there's constructive criticism and then there's just insulting. You should respect your audience, but don't just lick their boots.

The Mod feels the need to add-on to my post: Yeah, I agree. Whereas some people've left nice things, some haven't. Don't ass-kiss, that'll get you nowhere. If you feel the post has been particularly nasty, then don't hesitate to report it. We won't bite your head off if we don't agree.

-Thick

EmawWyvern · Jul 7, 2008

MightyBobBarker said:
Apparently there's a bug in 2.1049 that messes up the bounty system. I'm surprised I didn't catch it until now. For now, I'll upload 2.1051 that reverts to an older and working but more buggy version of the bounty system until I can get the newer one fixed.

@EmawWyvern

I'm amazed you even made it past the first boss with the bugs in the bounty system. Thanks for the comments. Any little hint of information that can make the map better is welcome.

Honestly I barely did, it has what it takes, it just needs that fixed and a bit more freedom like FF, put some shops, and small towns, some stores, inns, make it like a freeroam RPG with a story.

Ash · Jul 7, 2008

But that wouldn't make it a linear RPG, like Warchasers... >.>

EmawWyvern · Jul 7, 2008

Ash said:
But that wouldn't make it a linear RPG, like Warchasers... >.>

Yes but warchasers wasn't that good to start with.

Ash · Jul 7, 2008

I thought it was, personally.

EmawWyvern · Jul 8, 2008

Ash said:
I thought it was, personally.

Maybe the first 1-3 games but then you lose almost all interest.

Ash · Jul 8, 2008

That's why it's a linear RPG >.>

Thick_Armor · Jul 8, 2008

Umm, I don't think that your allowed to post that much on something like that >.<. Just thought I'd point it out before anyone get's into trouble :S.

Hellos and Goodbyes

-Thick

MightyBobBarker · Jul 10, 2008

Thick_Armor said:
Mighty, there's constructive criticism and then there's just insulting. You should respect your audience, but don't just lick their boots.

The Mod feels the need to add-on to my post: Yeah, I agree. Whereas some people've left nice things, some haven't. Don't ass-kiss, that'll get you nowhere. If you feel the post has been particularly nasty, then don't hesitate to report it. We won't bite your head off if we don't agree.

I don't think you understand. I'm a very passive and patient person. The intent of my reply was not to get him to bump up my rating on the map. If Emaw thought my map sucked, he is entitled to that opinion and I can do very little to change that. I could have told him he was wrong or insulted him for not liking it, but I find that kind of attitude childish at best

[EDIT: Here's what could've happened were I to respond differently (Though I don't condone Emaw's comment in this case): http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/resource.php?t=90387]

-- so I thanked him for the kind comments that he did post. After all, you said yourself "We won't bite your head off if we don't agree." I feel the same way.

I'm guessing the "Don't a**-kiss/lick boots" comments were directed at my response to Ash. I still believe that my map only deserves a 1 rating--I'm a harder critic on myself than anyone else could even hope to be. I didn't even know Ash was in a position of power when I replied to the comment. While I may have been agreeable, I don't believe I was "licking anyone's boots".

There's something wrong with this world when one person is chastised for being kind to another.

Thick_Armor · Jul 10, 2008

The second paragraph was written by Ash. Also I didn't mean you were licking their boots in a negative way, I suppose that was a bit of a strong phrase to use, and this wasn't really just directed at you, I was talking about pretty much everyone who is bullied a bit like this. By the way, as a Mod, I Beleive HappyTauren should not have posted a comment as harsh as that, or even gotten involved in the argument at all. Even so, you have no reason to be scared of something like that happening, because your probably smart enough not to get involved in it like Acorn511 did, he was right in defending the map and his beleifs, but he let it get too far. Well anyway, I just wanted to put my views across so lets not make a big fuss over it.

-Thick

MightyBobBarker · Jul 10, 2008

I agree that HappyTauren shouldn't have posted that either, and agree, as well, with everything else you've said here.

And lolz at the other argument anyway. I'll be posting my ten cents there here in a second.

Code Lyoko · Jul 25, 2008

Oh noes!

So this is like Warchasers? Oh noes, everyone makes much different versions of it... :con:

There couldn't be problem with it that this is RoC map IF in RoC could be custom spells - I don't like normal spells much anymore - they are boring cause only 3 times you can uprage them (than ulti, which is more worse). That's the reason I don't play anymore much RoC maps... :cry:

SomeRandomDeleted Dr. Cabbage0 · Sep 13, 2010

Worst RPG on thw.. cant even finish it, also boring terrain
1/5

deepstrasz · Mar 7, 2015

The map crashed on loading LAN (multiplayer).
It needs proper spell descriptions. Leveling up is stopped at after 10 and there still is way more to play.
The terrain could also be improved.

Sirmarkis29 · May 31, 2017

This map is just awful my god i played 1 min i go before start!
2/5

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