WoW - worth to play or just gay?

[deepstrasz]

World of Warcraft's lore is disappointing, it's uglier than that of a cartoon . I'll present my fan fiction continuation of the Frozen Throne in not the very near future.

 

[IronForge]

I hate people who say graphics don't make a game. If that is the case, why do so many people dump several thousand bucks on a big 3d screen?

On WoW graphics I think they are all right... sure it isn't cutting edge, but it's all right. Its... other things I have an issue with.

 

[WOWWARS]

WoW is good lore anit bad it all has too happen wc3 killed off many heroes wc2 killed off 5x WoW will kill off.

 

[TwistedImage]

No, WoW has terrible lore, and stating otherwise would simply be stupid.

It involves every oh-so-powerful fantasy hero being killed by freaking peasants.

 

[Tyranid]

No, WoW has terrible lore, and stating otherwise would simply be stupid.

It involves every oh-so-powerful fantasy hero being killed by freaking peasants.

Make that by other fantasy heroes and a bunch of elite soldiers. Really, that's how it goes. For Illidan you had Akama and Maiev. For Arthas you had Tirion.

Doesn't really differ AT ALL from Warcraft 3's 1 hero and 12 footmen.

 

[TwistedImage]

Except most of WoW's bosses are massively superior to WC3's heroes.

C'thun would be more like a level 100 hero than a level 10 hero.

Same goes for Arthas/Ner'zhul.

 

[deepstrasz]

Give it a rest. It's stupid. Suddenly in WoW, there is the Horde and the Alliance. Thrall made peace with the Night Elves and Humans. Frozen Throne showed us Admiral's Proudmoore's death and so a neutral pact between the Humans and Orcs. Lordaeron was infested by the Undead, somewhat shows that there were no more real Human threats there. Sylvanas thirsts for revenge on Arthas. All of the factions are neutral. WoW just turns everything into a mad offense.
The map of Warcraft has been modified/changed from WC 1 to WoW. Humanity has been defiled by the Scourge. The lore is blurry. The Frozen Throne and Reign of Chaos show everything but the rest: Stormwind and other Human fortresses. So these didn't participate in the TFT and ROC but they were there ?

 

[WOWWARS]

shush to all that say WoW has bad lore truth it doesn't it follows of what wc4 would've done. but in WoW they give you a chance for u to do it.

Wc3 killed grom hellscream and let thrall live just think about that its complete bullshiz

 

[deepstrasz]

shush to all that say WoW has bad lore truth it doesn't it follows of what wc4 would've done. but in WoW they give you a chance for u to do it.

Wc3 killed grom hellscream and let thrall live just think about that its complete bullshiz

ACHTUNG !: SPOILER:

Lol. Grom was in WarCraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal. It's obvious that Thrall should be the one who survives. He's the representation of good in Orcs' spirit. And he is younger therefore a detailed description of a great hero's life is at hand.
And no ! You think about it kid . Bolvar, a whatever human hero dies by the attack of the forsaken and then becomes some sort of elemental-undead being after the flames of Alexstraszas' dragons engulf him. A big LOL when former King Terenas says there must always be a Lich King and a bigger LOL when that idiot elemental egocentric creation Bolvar lets his brother put the Lich King's helm on his head (disgusting, even superhero comics have better storylines). Other facts: Illidan gets killed by Akama and Maiev; WarCraft 3 doesn't even say what happens to Maiev after the level where you rescue Illidan. Suddenly WoW: BC says she is locked in Outland (sick!). And there are a lot more. ETC.
Basically what you do in WoW is kill all of the former heroes/superheroes and others that suddenly appear.

 

[IronForge]

Well I don't think WoW's lore is THAT bad, though realistically speaking there shouldn't be fighting between the hoard and alliance in such a world, WOULD YOU PLAY IT IF THERE WAS NO PVP?

WoW does nothing really well and nothing really bad except the lack of player ownership and control, but it sure is better than the vast majority of games out there that does something extremely well but suck on all other fronts.

That's why many people pick WoW as their fallback MMO. Because while it does nothing great, it's well rounded.

 

[Oohforf]

ACHTUNG !: SPOILER:

Lol. Grom was in WarCraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal. It's obvious that Thrall should be the one who survives. He's the representation of good in Orcs' spirit. And he is younger therefore a detailed description of a great hero's life is at hand.
And no ! You think about it kid . Bolvar, a whatever human hero dies by the attack of the forsaken and then becomes some sort of elemental-undead being after the flames of Alexstraszas' dragons engulf him. A big LOL when former King Terenas says there must always be a Lich King and a bigger LOL when that idiot elemental egocentric creation Bolvar lets his brother put the Lich King's helm on his head (disgusting, even superhero comics have better storylines). Other facts: Illidan gets killed by Akama and Maiev; WarCraft 3 doesn't even say what happens to Maiev after the level where you rescue Illidan. Suddenly WoW: BC says she is locked in Outland (sick!). And there are a lot more. ETC.
Basically what you do in WoW is kill all of the former heroes/superheroes and others that suddenly appear.

Well, do you expect to just let all these characters to simply rot in lore, and WoW to not do anything to them at all? And why did you necro this thread?

 

[envenger]

I love it when a game has a huge lore behind it, but I get really freaked out when the game has no good graphics or the models look like photoshop units moving around. For example you can't compare this to Lineage II or Aion graphics-wise. You just can't. The WoW one makes you feel you are in a cartoon story, while the other ones drive you into the world they present and this is what I consider in a game; I know it's great when I just can't stop playing with it, feeling part of its own world. That's why I choose a game that has both great lore and graphics. I haven't tried WoW for this reason. So, even if Lineage II for example lacks the lore of the Warcraft, the dynamic graphics make you forget about it. The graphics are counting in the gaming experience anyway mostly, not the lore. This is my personal opinion, don't start quotting me and convtroverting my words.

Last time some one arruged with me that some game was better than wow due to graphics. Later that night he was so irritated that he said "Cm suck my C*ck" and life my friend list. Any way if a game was always graphics there wont be such a big community for warcraft 3.

 

[Statharas]

I'm just curious. People have a lot of mixed opinions on World of Warcraft so I'm just curious which one is the most prevalent. As a personal Warcraft lore ethusiast (and former World of Warcraft player) I think the game slanders Warcraft 3 lore in the sense that major characters are killed by rag-tag adventurers.

Illidan got killed by unknown adventurers helped by Maiev and Akama when the most logical option would have been Illidan being killed by Maiev and Akama or helped by unknown adventurers, not the other way around.

Arthas should have been killed by Tirion Fordring, not by unknown adventurers helped by Tirion. Also the idea that Bolvar is the new Lich King is disappointing since he hasn't been a major character in any other Warcraft games, whereas Tirion has been a major character in warcraft 2.

Other notable examples are Kael, Lady Vashj, Zul'jin, Kil'Jaeden, Anub'Arak, etc.

Anyway, what's your oppinion on the matter?

Seriously, people are fucking crazy. Illidan was assasinated by a combined attack from Shatrath and Akama-Maiev.
Kael got killed by the Aldor forces, trying to take back Tempest Keep. Vashj got killed by Shatrath forces as well, as she was trying to destroy Zangremarsh. Zul'jin was killed by people helping the adventurers inside the temple.
Kil'Jaeden was killed by the Shatrath offensive and their allies. Anub'Arak wasn't killed. He retreated, and re-appeared when he attacked in the Crusader's Stadium.

And seriously, wasn't it really easy for 5-6 units to kill a Hero in Wc3? OH WAIT! WEAK SPIDERS ARE KILLING ARTHAS! IT'S NOT A GOOD GAME! DON'T PLAY IT!

Seriously, the ones throwing out that story are the ones that got banned.
Hell, the story is even inside the god damned WOTLK manual! STOP ACCUSING BLIZZARD OF DESTROYING THE GAME!

 

[Evillizard]

I like the wow lore, some of it is a bullshit turn but I thought it was cool. Actually bolvar was a big LORE character (friend of varynn for a long time)

 

[Ramza]

I can't stand MMO's in general. The hours of grinding, repetitive gameplay, no real story progress, etc. It just takes too much time.

What World of Warcraft does to the lore is pretty shit as well.

And seriously, wasn't it really easy for 5-6 units to kill a Hero in Wc3? OH WAIT! WEAK SPIDERS ARE KILLING ARTHAS! IT'S NOT A GOOD GAME! DON'T PLAY IT!

That's not the same. And I'm pretty sure you know why.

 

[Super-Sheep]

That's not the same. And I'm pretty sure you know why.

Well I dont know about him but... I dont know. In my opinion it is pretty same.

 

[TwistedImage]

Despite the fact that Arthas became something like a hundred times more powerful after merging with the Lich King?

Or that Arthas on level 10 would not lose to weak spiders, given that he had full health?

 

[Raven0]

I love it when a game has a huge lore behind it, but I get really freaked out when the game has no good graphics or the models look like photoshop units moving around. For example you can't compare this to Lineage II or Aion graphics-wise. You just can't. The WoW one makes you feel you are in a cartoon story, while the other ones drive you into the world they present and this is what I consider in a game; I know it's great when I just can't stop playing with it, feeling part of its own world. That's why I choose a game that has both great lore and graphics. I haven't tried WoW for this reason. So, even if Lineage II for example lacks the lore of the Warcraft, the dynamic graphics make you forget about it. The graphics are counting in the gaming experience anyway mostly, not the lore. This is my personal opinion, don't start quotting me and convtroverting my words.

I love the lore behind world of warcraft as well. Unfortunately it's hard b/c the game is so old and you can only do so much with an ancient game engine. Plus they have to make the new models fit the old and therefore little advancement is made. Hopefully their nextgen project will have alot of the same good design that WoW had but with much better graphics and more realistic textures.

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As far as cost goes, I don't know why people complain about it. If you guys really think $15 a month is alot for a die-hard game like WoW then you really need to think about the $50+ dollars people buy console games for that only entertain you for a limited amount of time. A friend of mine used to say he didn't play WoW because of the cost and i'd go to his house and see stacks and stacks of x-box games that he bought for $50-70 a piece and just laugh.

IMO I love World of Warcraft and think it's a great game. The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that if you want to do any serious raiding or pvp you have to devote so much of your free time to it that it ends up being just about the only thing you do - that's the only reason I don't play myself.

Anyway, just my 2 cents

 

[TwistedImage]

^

I'm in a casual raiding guild myself. I can quit the game for months and still be in and get back to raiding if I feel like it. Not every raiding guild is hardcore!

 

[Cihparg]

WoW is a whore.
It begs for money, and thats what it gives.
It's a Goldmine for Blizzard.
You can't change WoW from what it is now, and you will test it out someday.
I know that, as I've proved it several times.
This Thread is useless, it has no meaning nor will it lead anywhere.
Now I've said what I got, it fills your needs.
I'm not going to create better post about this subject, as there's no need for it.

 

[Ramza]

As far as cost goes, I don't know why people complain about it. If you guys really think $15 a month is alot for a die-hard game like WoW then you really need to think about the $50+ dollars people buy console games for that only entertain you for a limited amount of time. A friend of mine used to say he didn't play WoW because of the cost and i'd go to his house and see stacks and stacks of x-box games that he bought for $50-70 a piece and just laugh.

First, games can't be hardcore, only players can. And IF games could be hardcore, World of Warcraft would definitely not be one of them.

Second, why to you have to bring up console games?
Yes, you pay 50-70 USD per game (which you pay for any new non-MMORPG PC game as well, by the way). How the hell is that worse than paying 15 USD each month for ONE game? Seriously...

You deserve negative rep for that post. :I

Well I dont know about him but... I dont know. In my opinion it is pretty same.

Dying in Warcraft's lore is different than dying in a Warcraft game, because in a game you can, you know, revive them.

 

[Skycraft]

World of Warcraft is a good game, but there's too many trolls/ragers/flamers that ruins the experience especially if you are trying to raid and someone just becomes an 'a-hole'.
Also, there is no more World PVP like there was in the 'Vanilla WoW'. That was so much more fun than waiting on battlegrounds, arenas and waiting for someone to accept your duel. >_______<

 

[TwistedImage]

Too many TROLLS!!1!1

On a more serious note, the ragers and flamers are usually confined to trade chat. If you're in a proper, nice guild, that won't happen to you.

Of course, it's a different story if you're into PvP.