World Tree Scenery

[Rheiko]

Tried to make an artistic terrain but it's just that I'm still a noob at terraining thus I would like to have some feedbacks from you guys. ~

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I hope I'm not that bad for a noob.

 

[Veritas 117]

Not bad at all. I would suggest a couple things though.

Since you used some rocks with high quality textures I would recommend doing the same with your trees and logs and stumps.

I like that the world tree is in the background, but it looks very lonely back there. You can give it some depth and make it seem very large and far away if you add some details around it. If you add some small trees around it and something else in the background it could really add to this.

I would also think about adding a couple small rocks to the pointy outcropping so it isn't so sharp looking. (I'm sure you already know this, but just in case. You can move doodads up and down with Ctrl+Page Up and Ctrl+Page Down)

I'm sure others will have some better advice than me though. I don't do any artistic terraining like a lot of them on this forum. I'm more of a playable terrain kind of guy.

 

[Bumhunter]

The path on which the two heroes stand seems a bit flat to me, for being a path in a forest.
You can add a realistic touch to your terrain with raising/lowering the terrain with the smallest and second smallest brush and then using the "plateau" brush on the smallest setting and brush with a few strokes here and there over your prepared terrain.

You can also add a dynamic to trees by changing the "max roll angle" to ~5-25 degrees. That will change the vertical alignment of the trees corresponding to the terrain they're standing on just a bit.

Your placement of doodads is quite nice actually.

 

[Rheiko]

I tried to follow your wonderful suggestions. ~
Added some trees around the World Tree, added some fog, added dynamic to some trees, tried to make the path not so flat-looking (I hope it's noticeable) and HQ Tree Models. I hope I've made some improvements.

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And I didn't expect I would get some positive feedbacks, Thanks guys.

 

[Veritas 117]

That's a big improvement. Nice job.

 

[Chaosy]

If you would have used custom tiles it would be pretty neat indeed.

 

[Rheiko]

That's a big improvement. Nice job.

Thank you!

If you would have used custom tiles it would be pretty neat indeed.

Well, I still have problems with combining custom tiles to fit each other in one theme. I'll practice with it a little more. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[fladdermasken]

Definitely remove the TC from the unit models.

Instead of using a preset sky that isn't affected by the fog, you should probably go for a stormsphere tinted to 0/0/0. It will make it easier to play with lighting.

Also, why is the screen so small? That can't be your native resolution. Either way, it leaves no room for details that would drastically help sell the scenery better.

 

[Rheiko]

Definitely remove the TC from the unit models.

May I ask what's TC?

Instead of using a preset sky that isn't affected by the fog, you should probably go for a stormsphere tinted to 0/0/0. It will make it easier to play with lighting.

Right, I'll go for it.

Also, why is the screen so small? That can't be your native resolution. Either way, it leaves no room for details that would drastically help sell the scenery better.

I don't know, I took the screenshot from World Editor.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. ~

 

[fladdermasken]

May I ask what's TC?

Team Color.

I don't know, I took the screenshot from World Editor.

And you didn't scale it down or anything?

 

[Rheiko]

And you didn't scale it down or anything?

Well, I just snipped it with the snipping tool.

 

[fladdermasken]

Well, I just snipped it with the snipping tool.

Cropping tool? See that's part of the problem I think. You're making your canvas too small.

 

[Celaquil]

Ah, a fresh breath to the Terrain Board.

Welcome, welcome! Stay a while and listen

There's not really an awful lot to add here on top of what my fellow terrainers
have already stated, but there are a few things I'd like to address. For starters,
this is a very decent first terrain, especially after the update. If it wasn't said,
I'll say this much: Never use standard Blizzard trees in Scenic Terraining.

Instead of using a preset sky that isn't affected by the fog, you should probably go for a stormsphere tinted to 0/0/0. It will make it easier to play with lighting.

I don't know, I kind of like the sky as it is, and there are more galling parts of the terrain
that need more immediate attention. Like the foreground. Chaosy said the terrain would
look better with custom tiles, and while custom tiles can work wonders for some terrains,
that's not always the case. What is the case, though, is that a good terrainer uses
the tiles in combination with doodads to make either exalt the other. What your terrain
needs before anything else is more love for the foreground, small doodads like bushes,
flowers, rocks and grass needs to be placed around. I recommend this thread for that.
You could also replace the trees with the trees in that pack, it'd improve the terrain
immensely.

I would also suggest you add some branches and stuff to the actual world tree, to make
it seem more like an actual tree. But I guess that'd be above your skill level at the
moment, so I won't press the matter

 

[Rheiko]

For starters,
this is a very decent first terrain, especially after the update.

Why, thank you, sir! This thread has motivated me to go further with terraining.

If it wasn't said,
I'll say this much: Never use standard Blizzard trees in Scenic Terraining.

I shall keep that in mind. ~

And thanks again for the very constructive feedback, I'll keep trying to improve my skill level!

 

[fladdermasken]

Part of the problem is also that the foreground takes up nearly half the screen and is pretty much just flat ground and tiles.

What people mostly struggle with when they're starting out is a good motif. When you're still wet behind the ears, it helps to pick out some concept art or photos and try to recreate it.

Don't go for your Bohemian Rhapsody on your first try, but something that looks good and can be semi-easily portrayed. Landscapes and stuff look universally nice, and is an easy first target.

Take e.g. something like this and use as a reference frame for proportions and angle. Then create something unique from it.

 

[daverave1212]

Default warcraft trees' base looks bad in general, try to lower it with ctrl+page down. I saw you tried to cover it with shrubbery, which works.
The zone behind the tree looks blank, I would add something, but it's your choice.
As someone mentioned, the terrain looks too flat at the road.
Also, 'activate windows' and 'game view settings' look funny