Need tips for my village

[TheGoldenGoblin]

Hello! I'm a noob trying to make a terrain for my rpg map. I really suck at terraining and would like to get some tips on how to improve my village!
I know it's empty but I don't know what to put where
+rep for help and thx for taking your time

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[Heinvers]

Oh. At least u do not use Blizzard cliffs. If I were u I would drop those green-roofed buildings and find better models. U could put also some grasses or shrubs on those grass tiles.
Village Theme; hmm Maybe adding some fruit, food or merchant stands. And please use custom trees from the hive not default trees. Those default ones are ugly. U could also add a river near this village, or improve those "mountains" adding rocks. trees and shrubs.

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

I'm trying to make it detailed but it takes alot of time and I still can't make it look good..
So this is what it looks like after some work

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[Heinvers]

Not much I see. Anyway as I said use grass models for the grass tile like these:http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/grassanimated-224313/?prev=search%3Dgrass%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/brown_grass-199455/?prev=search%3Dgrass%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/grass1-199365/?prev=search%3Dgrass%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist
and tint them so that they approximately match your grass tiles.
You should also start to fill the rest of your terrain.
Also u could add some carts like these http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/kutsche-49629/?prev=search%3Dcart%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20 to this village plus add terrain fog.

 

[Binsu]

Looking good as a start but for some suggestions: The original house models together with the custom ones in my honest opinion does not fit much. If you are going for the custom ones, just use them, don't combine them with the original building for it does not fit. Also, it could use some more doodads in it like Hays, Carts, some post lights and some ore that are for villages. Grasses would be a great move also here, placing some could improve the terrain.

The terrain is quite flat as well, I would suggest making some hills through the raise, plateau and smooth tool on the Terrain Palette then on the top, place some more village houses there.

Also, you might want to add some weather and fog here, it'll make this much more better: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/general-mapping-tutorials-278/all-about-fog-94771/

And some tutorials as an addition: http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php?view=32561 and http://www.thehelper.net/threads/terraining-complete-terraining-tutorial.103633/

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

I checked the tutorials and added fog and sky and so on. It's starting to get better now atleast
I added grass aswell, but it's barely noticable unless you zoom in.

Progress:

 

[Binsu]

I would suggest making the grass' scaling size or maximum size or scale higher than the default value so it can get bigger then.

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

Well if you go close the grass is almost up to the chest of a villager, so the grass will become as high as the villager if I do.

 

[Heinvers]

I would suggest making the grass' scaling size or maximum size or scale higher than the default value so it can get bigger then.

Not necessarily!
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Looks better. But I still think those houses with green roofs are out of place. I would replace those too. About the grass u could darken it a bit. You know like tinting it to 180 180 180. I would also make the fog denser and choose a more dark blueish color for it.
A chest if u want: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/fill-me-up-treasure-chest-50672/?prev=search%3Dstand%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D4
Also adding these stands could be good choice:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/market-stand-variation2-116879/?prev=search%3Dstand%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/market-stand-variation1-116830/?prev=search%3Dstand%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/mr-goblins-stall-174690/?prev=search%3Dstand%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D3

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

Yea I will replace the buildings, But I didn't find any model I wanted to use for them, but maby I will replace them with markets. That might do it

 

[Celaquil]

If you're going for a classic Wc3 style, then by no means replace them buildings.
They fit.

Also, commendable tile-work, for not being an experienced terrainer, that's some pretty sweet looking tile variation.
If anything, I wouldn't actually advice you to add anything more to what you currently have, I'd simply advice you
to expand in the same style. Sometimes, simple isn't always bad.

Oh, and, PS: I liked the Blizzard Trees better for this terrain.

 

[Heinvers]

Sometimes, simple isn't always bad.
Oh, and, PS: I liked the Blizzard Trees better for this terrain.

On that we agree. But imo those Blizz trees are too bad.

but maby I will replace them with markets.

And as I said and Keji you need to terrain the rest of the map too.

 

[Chen]

Agree with Keiji. Looks good too, keep it up.

 

[TheGoldenGoblin]

So I made a forrest and spiders have taken over it causing the village to have a hard time gathering ingredients/ food from the forest. So what do you think about the looks? I feel like it might be a little bit empty but I don't know.

Spider Forest

 

[Binsu]

I would suggest placing some more webs around the trees but not suggested for spamming though, a decent amount would suffice on it. This might serve as useful to you as well: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/spiders-victim-159608/?prev=search=Web&d=list&r=20

 

[-Kobas-]

Terrain style mostly depends on resources you use.

Forest should be huge, dark and full of environment doodads (Trees, shrubs, rocks, logs etc).
You could add cave at some location, small lake, like place, or hidden camp.

Add fog like effects here and there. Wild animals and maybe some boss area with giant bear
or something, (depending on story line and so on).

 

[Veritas 117]

I think your forest is a little close to your village as well, there should be some sort of separation otherwise you might run into problems with the spiders attacking NPCs and vice versa. Other than that I'd listen to what Kobas said, make a large wilderness, with smaller villages.

 

[Heinvers]

I agree with these 2 helpers and please use the raise/lower tool for the terrain. It's a bit flat for a forest.

 

[bethmachine]

You are doing great, when your map is complete please inform me.

 

[Gilles]

Moar doodads. Wayyy moar.

 

[Celaquil]

Really?

I don't know that I agree to that.
- Imagine the mess.

 

[Gilles]

Whoops, didn't look at the update. : (

 

[Aleister]

Looks cool bro!

 

[sluk]

still needs more doodads
i have a style i really like

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