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World Edit doesn't load Maps

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I recently have been getting back into War3 and when I wanted to edit some of my older maps, it didn't work.
Whenever I try to open any map it does the loading bars, then shows this screen.

Clicking, absolutely anywhere causes it to immediately say "(Not Responding)" I uninstalled and re-installed War3 but it still does not work.
I am at a complete loss and could use any and all help with this.

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I think it's not only because of compatibility issues and Reforged graphics. Someone had experienced this kind of issue, but after the World Editor stucks on "Loading triggers", which is obvious because of GUI trigger comments.
Latest patches of Reforged tend to crash randomly, probably because of resources-demanding issues. To be clear, opening World Editor with HD graphics might take up a lot of time to load AND literally consumes your RAM usage.
If you are using the latest patch of Reforged, you might check out this thread below. This might be helpful:
 
I am at a complete loss and could use any and all help with this.
I am not an authority figure nor associated with Activision, but here is the situation as I understood and intuit it to be: in 2020-2021, Activision let go the Reforged development team and other teams that make the Blizzard named products. These teams achieved their financial purpose and people like you and I bought Reforged.

However, the team members themselves behind Reforged wanted to do more. They wished if they had time to do post-release patches that they would fix certain things and advance the technology. Because of this, they created a Warcraft 3 version called Patch 1.33 inside the office that they never released. They did not release it for a good reason; it was not finished.

This patch sat in the office storage from 2020 until 2022. On August 17th of 2022, new people at Activision published a derivative work of the Patch 1.33 project, overwriting the Warcraft 3 Reforged game with the experimental and unfinished version. Their goal is not your custom mapping hobby; their goal is likely to check off the box of "Ranked Ladder play" legally (an incomplete ladder had existed in the Patch 1.33 reported to have existed in 2020, based on a blog post you can find on Blizzard's official site that showed a Reforged ladder back then despite the ladder never releasing until 2022).

Originally there were severe game breaking issues with the patch that they pushed out. We knew this in advance; earlier in 2022 there had been a Public Test Realm for the Patch 1.33 and this made it obvious the patch would break a lot of things and reduce game stability and reduce World Editor stability. The solution from Activision, to avoid all the bugs reports from the Public Test Realm, was apparently to switch to a Private Test Realm and turn off the public one. From my standpoint, it felt like this was a move to avoid receiving bug reports that there was no incentive to fix because they didn't want to bother to actually keep the full scope of Reforged running.

I was sharing my understanding of these events as best I could gather it to be, and painting a pretty negative picture of Activision's handling of Reforged after they released this thing on August 17th, 2022. But this spring after the holidays, the fixed one of the most game breaking file cache system issues that was wrecking everything. So, they are not totally against fixing the major problems. But there is probably not a financial motivator for this company to fix your issue. You could try to be vocal about it online, and hope for the best. That might work.

But more likely is the future where you have to make do with what you got. And that means that in order to open or update your map, you can either:
1. Use a backup of the Reforged World Editor that you saved in advance prior to August 17th, 2022 by knowing from the Public Test Realm that Activision would break the game. Personally, this is the solution that I have been using.
2. Ask someone who has #1 set up, or use some other program, and rip out of your map whichever files cause it to fail to load. Determining which files cause it to fail is probably a matter of guess-and-check, but since the problem is Activision and not you, your original map files from before the patch are still 100% intact, and it is simply the new patched game system that fails to open them properly.

Finally, I would mention that after 20 years I am losing motivation to use the Latest Patch, and I have not personally used Patch 1.35 much, and it may be better than I am giving it credit for. In other words, my knowledge has its limits, and maybe everything I said is wrong.

Good luck, and happy mapping!
 
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Can you create new maps? Might be a compatibility problem with your old maps

Maybe it's an issue with reforged graphics, try setting them is SD mode in File > Preferences to see if that changes anything

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Already have SD as standard (OG graphics are better imo)

I think it's not only because of compatibility issues and Reforged graphics. Someone had experienced this kind of issue, but after the World Editor stucks on "Loading triggers", which is obvious because of GUI trigger comments.
Latest patches of Reforged tend to crash randomly, probably because of resources-demanding issues. To be clear, opening World Editor with HD graphics might take up a lot of time to load AND literally consumes your RAM usage.
If you are using the latest patch of Reforged, you might check out this thread below. This might be helpful:
I doubt it's the triggers because the 'load' bar for the triggers finished without issues, would be odd if it turned out to be them when it gave 0 indications to it. :\

I am not an authority figure nor associated with Activision, but here is the situation as I understood and intuit it to be: in 2020-2021, Activision let go the Reforged development team and other teams that make the Blizzard named products. These teams achieved their financial purpose and people like you and I bought Reforged.

However, the team members themselves behind Reforged wanted to do more. They wished if they had time to do post-release patches that they would fix certain things and advance the technology. Because of this, they created a Warcraft 3 version called Patch 1.33 inside the office that they never released. They did not release it for a good reason; it was not finished.

This patch sat in the office storage from 2020 until 2022. On August 17th of 2022, new people at Activision published a derivative work of the Patch 1.33 project, overwriting the Warcraft 3 Reforged game with the experimental and unfinished version. Their goal is not your custom mapping hobby; their goal is likely to check off the box of "Ranked Ladder play" legally (an incomplete ladder had existed in the Patch 1.33 reported to have existed in 2020, based on a blog post you can find on Blizzard's official site that showed a Reforged ladder back then despite the ladder never releasing until 2022).

Originally there were severe game breaking issues with the patch that they pushed out. We knew this in advance; earlier in 2022 there had been a Public Test Realm for the Patch 1.33 and this made it obvious the patch would break a lot of things and reduce game stability and reduce World Editor stability. The solution from Activision, to avoid all the bugs reports from the Public Test Realm, was apparently to switch to a Private Test Realm and turn off the public one. From my standpoint, it felt like this was a move to avoid receiving bug reports that there was no incentive to fix because they didn't want to bother to actually keep the full scope of Reforged running.

I was sharing my understanding of these events as best I could gather it to be, and painting a pretty negative picture of Activision's handling of Reforged after they released this thing on August 17th, 2022. But this spring after the holidays, the fixed one of the most game breaking file cache system issues that was wrecking everything. So, they are not totally against fixing the major problems. But there is probably not a financial motivator for this company to fix your issue. You could try to be vocal about it online, and hope for the best. That might work.

But more likely is the future where you have to make do with what you got. And that means that in order to open or update your map, you can either:
1. Use a backup of the Reforged World Editor that you saved in advance prior to August 17th, 2022 by knowing from the Public Test Realm that Activision would break the game. Personally, this is the solution that I have been using.
2. Ask someone who has #1 set up, or use some other program, and rip out of your map whichever files cause it to fail to load. Determining which files cause it to fail is probably a matter of guess-and-check, but since the problem is Activision and not you, your original map files from before the patch are still 100% intact, and it is simply the new patched game system that fails to open them properly.

Finally, I would mention that after 20 years I am losing motivation to use the Latest Patch, and I have not personally used Patch 1.35 much, and it may be better than I am giving it credit for. In other words, my knowledge has its limits, and maybe everything I said is wrong.

Good luck, and happy mapping!
Would it be at all possible if you could send me this backup editor please!

Also, I checked with other maps, even official blizzard ones, it's literally any map that I open, and it crashes. My friends tried opening the same map files and it worked for them without issue, I genuinely have 0 clue as to why this is happening, so, my best bet is probably the roll back of the editor.
 
My friends tried opening the same map files and it worked for them without issue
This sounds more like a game installation issue. Or user error. Often times Windows labels applications as "Not responding" that are fine, and if you let the application finish what it was doing without clicking then it loads fine. But I do not know if that is the problem you have in this case.

Would it be at all possible if you could send me this backup editor please!
More than other people, I have reason to believe that I myself specifically am more likely to be a legal target as evidenced by major content creators taking false rumors about me and garnering 100000 views from people that believe them, and as such I do not wish to be legally liable for distributing to you a copy of the Warcraft III game.

However, as far I can tell, the Hive doesn't have this problem. At all. So, there are posts like this that contain backup copies of ye' old Reforged world editor. It's probably not the only one.
 
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