Working on Shoulder Model need help...

[Dumbdumb36]

need to give it skin/texture/color

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

be more specific

is it uvmapped?
do you know how to uvmap?

did you make the model, if so, what program?

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Well... My little brother made a model on milkshape, and We dont know what to do next

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

Ok great
I'm assuming you'll just be using one skin, so if not, just tell me and I'll edit my post with information on how to Uvmap for two (or more).

Now the easiest way to start this is to create a texture for you to UVMap to.

What I would do is imagine how you want your pad laid out
Do you want to have detail on a majority of the front/back side, or the top of it?

1. If front/back, change the perspective of the view in Milkshape to front, make sure it's on Wireframe, and then take a screenshot (PRT SCRN).

2. Paste that view into paint or photoshop, on a document that's size is 128x128 or 256x256. I would probably choose 128 unless you want lots of details for just the shoulder pads, or if you have plenty of space.

The view should look something like this:

And your new texture like this:

BTW: Now if you wanted to do it from the Top, do the same process as 1. but instead take the screenshot from the top view.

Moving on, now that you have your base UVMap, save it (I would avoid saving it as a jpeg, as it will lose quality).


Now move into Milkshape once again. Go to the Materials tab and create a new material by selecting the button the says New at the bottom (1). Now that your new material has been created, you need to assign your texture that you just created to it. Do this by selecting None in the middle of the Materials tab panel. There are two, one on the bottom, one on the top. Just select the top one for the sake of not messing something up . If you're lost, look at 2 on the image at the bottom of this paragraph. Now that the window has opened after pressing None, select your new texture, which is your uvmap...map!
You can see your texture on the sphere that is shown in the panel (3).

Now we need to assign your mesh to that material. You do this by going to the groups tab, and selecting all the groups that contain your model. Select it by clicking on the Group Name at the top, and then hitting the Select button right below it.
Now if you have all the groups you want to be assigned to the texture, go back to the materials tab and click Assign. Assign is 2 buttons below the New button, so I'm hoping you won't need another screenshot (trying to save some space here )

Now your texture has been assigned to the model! whoop whoop!

You are now ready to begin uvmapping the model! IMPORTANT: SELECT THE FACES OF YOUR MODEL BEFORE YOU BEGIN THIS STEP! IT WILL CAUSE YOU LESS CONFUSION THAN NECESSARY! Go to Window > Texture Coordinator (Ctrl + T). A spiffy window will pop up. The view will be a bit weird, so it helps to zoom in (Scale tool AT THE BOTTOM) as well as to move the camera around (hold ctrl and left click and drag to move it).
If you wanted to map the top view, then during this next step, use top instead of front.
Now you'll see two drop down bars, and a button below it.
The top one represents the geoset selected, and the second one represents which view you want to remap to, hence the remap button.
We want to remap to the Front view, so select front, and then press remap.

Now you can simply resize your selection and move it in place over the Uvmap/texture's white lines and match them up, and then you're done!

It should look like this:

(those should be red dots, the jpg lost quality).

Now that that's done, your model is uvmapped and ready to be textured.
Save your progress so far.

To add your real texture, in paint or Photoshop just create your texture over your uvmap lines.
Whatever you color is what it will show up like exactly on the front and back sides of your model.

When you've finished texturing your skin, save it and then convert it to a .BLP using either Warcraft 3 Viewer or (from what i've heard, I don't actually use this though) MDLX Converter (?).
For exporting the Milkshape model, I would use Guesst's MDL/MDX Exporter.
In your exported MDL, after you add in your sequences and all that other jazz, use

Textures 1 {
	Bitmap {
		Image "Texture.blp",
	}
}

as your textures area. You can change "Texture.blp" to "whateveryouwant.blp"....meaning you can change it to whatever you feel like and that will be your path.

Any questions post or PM me.
Hope this help!
-ES

PS: I would suggest using Werewulf's metal texturing tutorial if you want a nice metal armor. I am not the best texture guy so I'm probably not the person to ask.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

oh wow ty for the tutorial, I appreciate it

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

oh wow ty for the tutorial, I appreciate it

My pleasure man.
Did you have any problems doing it, or at least if you do when you start, just let me know.


By the way, this thread probably should've been posted in the Modeling section, but that's alright haha.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

My pleasure man.
Did you have any problems doing it, or at least if you do when you start, just let me know.


By the way, this thread probably should've been posted in the Modeling section, but that's alright haha.

No real problems so far, just need to add the final texture, need to look for werewulfs tortorial

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

No real problems so far, just need to add the final texture, need to look for werewulfs tortorial

Great news

Here it is:
http://wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=81291

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Great news

Here it is:
http://wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=81291

If you don't mind when you finish repping me? I don't have any haha.
thanks

How do I do that? New to this site still

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

It's the little green check mark and red x button below the username.

You do it on a helpful post or whatever and say why it was helpful.

thanks again haha

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Thanx for the help man

 

[HappyTauren]

Umm.. This doesn't really belong here, moved to Modeling
ElectricSaiyan, quite a tutorial

 

[Dumbdumb36]

wait.... what do I use to add the textured skin? lol

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

wait.... what do I use to add the textured skin? lol

You mean assigning??

Well, when you select None, it will bring a window up that looks much like a window that you'd get if you were an opening a file.
Select your texture.bmp or whatever you named it.
You'll know it's correct if you see the texture wrapped around the sphere in the materials tab and if it has a path other than None in one of those little boxes.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

You mean assigning??

Well, when you select None, it will bring a window up that looks much like a window that you'd get if you were an opening a file.
Select your texture.bmp or whatever you named it.
You'll know it's correct if you see the texture wrapped around the sphere in the materials tab and if it has a path other than None in one of those little boxes.

No, the BLP one...

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

well once you have the BLP saved all you have to do is import it into warcraft and double click on it, check Use custom path, and then type in the path that you used in the MDL of your exported model.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

oh, ok... I think I have it down then... is there anything special I have to do to make it an attachment?

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

oh, ok... I think I have it down then... is there anything special I have to do to make it an attachment?

making IT an attachment i really don't see anything special needed.
You may want to add a death animation though so when you remove the shoulder pad as an SFX it won't sit there for 5 seconds and then disappear.

Other than that, no I wouldn't say so...
Care to show a screenshot?

 

[Dumbdumb36]

making IT an attachment i really don't see anything special needed.
You may want to add a death animation though so when you remove the shoulder pad as an SFX it won't sit there for 5 seconds and then disappear.

Other than that, no I wouldn't say so...
Care to show a screenshot?

sure...
trying to right now...

 

[Dumbdumb36]

I was going to add like an eagle or something into it, but I'll do that later... and I still cant make a BLP that works >.<

 

[Dumbdumb36]

if you want I can give you the model... and you can texture it for me ^^ and make it work on WC 3 lol

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

Sure why not...
haha

Well just to try to warn you before you get chewed out by the mods, you probably shouldn't double post...much less triple post.
Anyways, post it and i'll send it.
A tip, from what it looks like, you should select those black faces and reverse the facing order so it'll...hard to explain..it won't be dark anymore that way...

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Sure why not...
haha

Well just to try to warn you before you get chewed out by the mods, you probably shouldn't double post...much less triple post.
Anyways, post it and i'll send it.
A tip, from what it looks like, you should select those black faces and reverse the facing order so it'll...hard to explain..it won't be dark anymore that way...

oh, ok... alright.... now how do I send it to you It wont let me upload it on here.... I could E-mail it...

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

oh, ok... alright.... now how do I send it to you It wont let me upload it on here.... I could E-mail it...

You can either export it as an MDX and post it here and I'll reimport it and stuff or you can email the MS3D file to me at [email protected]

 

[Dumbdumb36]

You can either export it as an MDX and post it here and I'll reimport it and stuff or you can email the MS3D file to me at [email protected]

All sent

 

[SuPa-]

Is the BLP a 256 x 256 Or any multiple of this (64 x 64, 256 x 128, 128 x 128, 1024 x 1024, etc.)? If not, it won't work. If this is the case, you can just resize it as a 256x256 (or smaller to decrease file size) the wrap will correctly adjust to the resize and stay the same, so no worries

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

Is the BLP a 256 x 256 Or any multiple of this (64 x 64, 256 x 128, 128 x 128, 1024 x 1024, etc.)? If not, it won't work. If this is the case, you can just resize it as a 256x256 (or smaller to decrease file size) the wrap will correctly adjust to the resize and stay the same, so no worries

I'm not exactly getting what you're saying, but essentially, yes.
You can wrap a model to a 256x256 BLP and then choose to resize the BLP to a 128 x 128 without having to remap the model.
It goes by multiples of 64, meaning 64 x 64, 128 x 128, 256 x 256, 512 x 512, 1024 x 1024, etc.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Hey electricsaiyan, did you get it?

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

Yes sir I did.
thanks I'll get it done soon.

 

[Dumbdumb36]

Yes sir I did.
thanks I'll get it done soon.

ok ty lots!
I'll give you credit in my map

 

[SuPa-]

I'm not exactly getting what you're saying, but essentially, yes.
You can wrap a model to a 256x256 BLP and then choose to resize the BLP to a 128 x 128 without having to remap the model.
It goes by multiples of 64, meaning 64 x 64, 128 x 128, 256 x 256, 512 x 512, 1024 x 1024, etc.

What I mean is, if his texture was a 345x345 he should resize it to 256x256 or any multiple

 

[Dumbdumb36]

What I mean is, if his texture was a 345x345 he should resize it to 256x256 or any multiple

My texture was 128 x 128

 

[ElectricSaiyan]

What I mean is, if his texture was a 345x345 he should resize it to 256x256 or any multiple

Basically, you start with 64 x 64 and double that each time to find any size you can do it with.
it'll be a square haha.
I mean, I'm pretty sure you could probably do one with different sizes, but I use the base multiples of 64

so...
64
128
256
512
1024

 

[Dumbdumb36]

hows it comming?