Where to find Animation Cast Point/Cast Back in SLK files?

[addisonsmith2]

Anyone know where they would be found in slks?

 

[neo_sluf]

i remembered the lightning slks only i found in the mpq.. i think it is only in the object editor..

 

[WaterKnight]

Units\UnitWeapons.slk

In JNGP, you can see the 4 letter meta data id behind each field's name (when not viewing in raw mode). Then you open the Units\UnitMetaData.slk respectively the meta slk for the object type and look up the slk attribute for the id.

@neo_sluf: All the object editor fields are gained from meta slks, all predefined objects from other slks.

 

[addisonsmith2]

Thanks. I found the UnitWeapons.slk, but can the slks be converted into war3map.w3a and such?

 

[WaterKnight]

If you write a tool. The meta slk serves as a dictionary. The object editor formats have a worse performance though.

 

[addisonsmith2]

By any chance, do you happen to know how to convert a map to use slks and vexopt?

 

[WaterKnight]

Vexorian's optimizer does not do that but the Widgetizer. It's just the other way around, the object editor files are parsed and translated using the meta slks as reference. The only fields that cannot be converted because they do not exist in slk format, are ability and upgrade data >level 4. File specs are here. But since using custom slks overwrite the default ones, you have to transfer the default objects you need and a few abilities are mandatory to not crash the game. Also, the editor cannot handle map-specific slks, which renders them quite inappropriate for world editor work. So changing to slk is more of a form of finalization for the map. Do not apply it on dev files. And last but not least, stuff like tooltips go into the profile files (the func and strings .txt files in Units\). Those files are normally different for each language version of wc3, so overwriting them kills the localization.

 

[addisonsmith2]

So does Vexopt work on maps touched by widgetizer?

 

[WaterKnight]

I think Widgetizer first, then Vex optimizer. Maybe not all settings work.

 

[edo494]

Vex optimizer doesnt properly work even on normal maps lol, it keeps crashing for me on certain maps sometimes when optimizing script

 

[addisonsmith2]

Does anyone know where the abilities beyond level 4 are stored? They're stored somewhere, right? If not in the slks, they're somewhere?

 

[WaterKnight]

The slk format does not support them. In normal wc3, you do not have abilities beyond level 4. They are realized by object modifications (.w3a). Maybe you can split your levels into multiple abilities instead.

 

[addisonsmith2]

Suppose the spell has 10 levels, where would the other 6 levels be stored in the map? When the map is played, it shows up, but it's not in the slks? Is that hidden somewhere?

 

[WaterKnight]

The original abilities are in the slk. If there are changes to them, like higher level data, those changes are within the .w3a. When you copy the original abilities in the object editor to make a custom one, those custom ones are in the .w3a and store their parent original object id to look up the default data from them and can have changes too.

http://www.wc3c.net/tools/specs/index.html

 

[addisonsmith2]

The original abilities are in the slk. If there are changes to them, like higher level data, those changes are within the .w3a. When you copy the original abilities in the object editor to make a custom one, those custom ones are in the .w3a and store their parent original object id to look up the default data from them and can have changes too.

http://www.wc3c.net/tools/specs/index.html

If silk object editor is used on a map that had lvl 20 abilities, it does show up in war3map.w3a though? But the slks only display up to lvl4 for some reason?

 

[Xonok]

SLKs simply don't have the slots for more than 4 levels. Usual WC3 object data modifications are in a different format.