Where can I learn to animate using Milkshape?

[Teaspoon]

The tile says it all. +rep to whoever helps me on my way to animate with ms3d. A tutorial or anything would be great.

 

[Devine]

Animating itself is easy. Doing it in a realistic fashion is way harder and requires a lot of practice. Doing this in milkshape is even harder because you don't have any fancy tools that generate nice curves and stuff.

 

[Raj91]

I know this doesn't really help, but have you tried to "google" it?

 

[Devine]

I know this doesn't really help, but have you tried to "google" it?

You can't animate using google, dude >.<

 

[Direfury]

Hey, I learned how to do it from Google!

 

[Teaspoon]

Uh yeah but I don't think Google itself learned you to do it -_- Is there any good tutorial or anything? Besides that milkshape tutorial that's official.

 

[chilla_killa]

Here are some good tutorials:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6HdM_iNPgs
http://homepage.eircom.net/~abyrne/Models/model9/tutorials_tut09.htm

 

[Teaspoon]

That youtube tutorial looks nice, ima get more into it later.

 

[Devine]

That youtube tutorial looks nice, ima get more into it later.

>.< I wouldn't recommend it tbh.

 

[Teaspoon]

>.< I wouldn't recommend it tbh.

Why not? I learned much from it. But still all I know is how to make bones, move em and make an animation that's viewable in ms3d by scrolling the anim thing.

 

[Devine]

Well. You shouldn't rig the model like that. You should only select the verticles and attach them to the joints (=bones), not the whole groups. The mesh itself is made out of pure shit too. Besides, the outcome looks bad. You should practice on simple things first. My first home animated model was a living sword. It only needed one joint (=bone).

 

[Teaspoon]

Well. You shouldn't rig the model like that. You should only select the verticles and attach them to the joints (=bones), not the whole groups. The mesh itself is made out of pure shit too. Besides, the outcome looks bad. You should practice on simple things first. My first home animated model was a living sword. It only needed one joint (=bone).

Oh thx, that helped alot. But now I've made the animation in ms and it displays properly in ms when moving the anim thing. But how do I make it display in-game (I got magos)? I mean, the animation doesnt even exist in magos.

 

[Devine]

You'll have to reanimate it (not rerig)...
Delete all keyframes and run zero joints under tools section, then you can start animating again. When you're done, you go to "comment" and write down

Stand,1-100
Stand - 2,110-200
Stand - 3,210-300
...

something similar.

"Stand" should be whatever you want to name your animation.
Then "," without any spaces!
then "1-100" representing the first and last keyframe of the animation. No spaces! Don't forget to put 10 frames between the animations, else it'll fuck up. Then just export (don't forget to turn off the animation mode, if you don't do this, it'll fuck up)

 

[Teaspoon]

You'll have to reanimate it (not rerig)...
Delete all keyframes and run zero joints under tools section, then you can start animating again. When you're done, you go to "comment" and write down

Stand,1-100
Stand - 2,110-200
Stand - 3,210-300
...

something similar.

"Stand" should be whatever you want to name your animation.
Then "," without any spaces!
then "1-100" representing the first and last keyframe of the animation. No spaces! Don't forget to put 10 frames between the animations, else it'll fuck up. Then just export (don't forget to turn off the animation mode, if you don't do this, it'll fuck up)

Great thanks to you devine! Now I'm all set to begin animating
EDIT: last questio, how di I speed up/slow down the animation using magos?

 

[Devine]

Great thanks to you devine! Now I'm all set to begin animating
EDIT: last questio, how di I speed up/slow down the animation using magos?

You can't. =/
If you want an animation to play slower, you'll have to edit the ms3d file.

 

[Teaspoon]

You can't. =/
If you want an animation to play slower, you'll have to edit the ms3d file.

K i did so and it worked, but does the filesize or anything change if you make it more keyframes?

 

[Devine]

I think you've got keyframes confused with "frames"
Keyframes do take more space but regular frames.
If your animation lasts from 1-200 and has 5 keyframes, it'll have the same filesize as when it lasts from 1-1000 when still having the same amount of keyframes.
A keyframe is a frame in which a bone's position is set (the ctrl+k thing)

 

[Teaspoon]

I think you've got keyframes confused with "frames"
Keyframes do take more space but regular frames.
If your animation lasts from 1-200 and has 5 keyframes, it'll have the same filesize as when it lasts from 1-1000 when still having the same amount of keyframes.
A keyframe is a frame in which a bone's position is set (the ctrl+k thing)

Oh yeah I meant frames.

 

[varsaigen]

Well, I made an animation tutorial, and I tried to be as straightforward as posible, listing every step of the process. So, I hope it helps you.

Despite the milkshape haters, milkshape can be great for some things, due to its easy-to-navigate User Interface, unlike Blender, which is a mess. (Still can't figure out how to rig in Blender D But, it is lacking in some features like smoothing, and is not the most recommended for epic-poly projects. But it is absolutely great for learning the basics of modeling.

 

[rober artua]

Well. If you want to learn how to use certain application for animation is very different from learning how to animate. The best way to learn animation is to learn it in 2d first. Or at least have an idea how things work in 2d.

some very great learning books about animation by best of the best animators in the world:

Here some google search for you about milkshape anim:

http://homepage.eircom.net/~abyrne/Models/model9/tutorials_tut09.htm


video tutorials:
http://www.google.com/#hl=ru&q=milk...d:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wv&fp=167eddfc64669ba7