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What is death?

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Death is simply the fact that your brained stop all it's activitie, thus making you stop breathing, your lungs stop bringing oxygen to your blood and your heart, stop sending blood everywhere, which cause all cells to die one after another.

So technically, you can ''die'' for a few minutes, the problems that might occurs are:

1- Your brained stopped for too long and won't start again.
2- Too many cells died already.

Death is also a person, if you were refering to that. Also known as the ''Grim'' Reaper or Angel of Death:

Angel_of_Death-1.jpg
 
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Death is the irreversible termination of the biological functions that define a living organism.
Roughly 150,000 people die each day across the globe.
Death is an important part of the process of natural selection.

One of the challenges in defining death is in distinguishing it from life. Death would seem to refer to either the moment at which life ends, or when the state that follows life begins.

Signs of death, or strong indications that a person is no longer alive are:

  • Ceasing respiration, the body no longer metabolises.
  • Pallor mortis, paleness which happens almost instantaneously (in the 15–120 minutes after the death).
  • Livor mortis, a settling of the blood in the lower (dependent) portion of the body
  • Algor mortis, the reduction in body temperature following death. This is generally a steady decline until matching ambient temperature.
  • Rigor mortis, the limbs of the corpse become stiff (Latin rigor) and difficult to move or manipulate.
  • Decomposition, the reduction into simpler forms of matter.

How to stop death from happening:
With Nanotechnology or
with Cryonics
.

The hardest question of them all is:
Why does all this exist?

Why do we exist?
Why does atom exist?
Is there any purpose in this life?
Why does universe exist?
What is the first thing that existed in time?
Can time itself be reversed?
Is it true that there are two different realities?
Do black holes act like an vacuum or do they lead to another universe?
Is it true that there is something else after death?
AND MUCH MORE...
 
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People die from age, cause their bones are getting old and breaking, in case all body is breaking. If there is researched some tech what regenrates our bones and body, then we aren't affected by age, in other words, we can't die from age then, but I dunno if such tech is possible. Idea about Cybernetics would turn us into robots >.>
 

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Death is punishment for not comprehending the purpose, or meaning, of life. Now go figure.



No really, assuming accidental death is not what this thread is about, death is when your mind is prepared for new challenges, ready to embark on new adventures, to learn more - you accept that you are incapable of extracting more knowledge out of this life, or find it inefficient to go on with this life- you would rather start a new.

Your human consciousness is merely a part of your greater mind, and achieving contact with your supreme self, your supreme being, is something that many before us has managed to do, and there are many and not one way of doing so. When you have found yourself, you recreate yourself to learn more. Our mind seeks knowledge, it is what we do whether you admit it or not, it does not matter. There's a reason you are bored by not learning anything new. We are far more than humans, yet humans might as far as I know, be the most advanced of our forms. We made humans so that we could learn more, experience new lifeforms.
Thus you might live, knowingly or not, many human lives in order to experience all.
 
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Wow shiiK :p still imo, when you die, you just die and it's over... we are who we are and we aren't anything else... we are humans.

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Not really. You'll be just mush then with your organs juggling around your body.
If it wasn't for the fact that without bones the ability of filling your lungs with air wouldn't be possible anymore, you could actually stay alive without bones, but as you said... being a mush :p
 
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Wow shiiK :p still imo, when you die, you just die and it's over... we are who we are and we aren't anything else... we are humans.


If it wasn't for the fact that without bones the ability of filling your lungs with air wouldn't be possible anymore, you could actually stay alive without bones, but as you said... being a mush :p

that's not good enough, unless you view everything from a certain point of view, there are consequences in this world, if you do terrible things, and then you die, all your worries gone, for a bad person it's a reward. it's not over like that. that would mean giving that person "the peace of death", even those who don't believe in any kind of religion agree about consequences.
 
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Death = no life
Real question = What Is Life?

Edit:
I think this topic is among the best in the world, because arguments can range from simplest to the most philosophically advanced. Everyone can join in a What Is Death? quiz.

Edit: Except perhaps the dumb and the dead.

Edit: Which leads to another question: Life After Death... DOES it Exist?

Edit: In which case my argument in top of post wouldn't be no good no more.

Edit: Ignore my silly English.
 
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Free will to make it what you want it to be.

That's your definition of life? Bah...!

"Free will" is a romantic falsehood born out of slavery.

that's not good enough, unless you view everything from a certain point of view, there are consequences in this world, if you do terrible things, and then you die, all your worries gone, for a bad person it's a reward. it's not over like that. that would mean giving that person "the peace of death", even those who don't believe in any kind of religion agree about consequences.

I am a religious dude according to my own definitions (according to which most ppl are), but I don't believe in life after death. I don't KNOW whether there is life after death, and I see only one way to discover, which I don't plan on trying on purpose.
BUT I do believe that if we die for good with no afterlife, all out worries die with us. That is a logical conclusion if you ask me. I seriously can't see how there can be any doubt about that.
 

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Do you not find it curious that, though supremely powerful, our brain manages to control our body, formulate sentences in order to talk, maintain reflexes (insert a lot of other functions of less importance to the point here) and also think thoughts in multiple planes all simultaneously? For me it is quite obvious that not all the thoughts are processed at the same place.

Example; while walking a human is capable of sending an sms, while talking to a friend, while thinking about what the friend says and what to reply to that, while thinking of what to have for dinner, while thinking of what happened yesterday - all at the exact same time. The walking, talking and communication is, to me, obviously human. It is human thoughts the other two as well, but I don't think that's what the brain is thinking, I think that is your supreme self. Your supreme self is also processing other thoughts that you as a human fail to recognize.


.. oh my god, I'm far out.. nighty!
 
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Oh, no, I totally agree with you shiiK. No I don't find it curious, I find it amazing. And the reason I find myself, you, and most life upon Earth so amazing is that it is too big for me to truly understand. I cannot even comprehend myself. And that said, I think that our "free will", or our "consciousness" is just the tip of the iceberg. It is that thing, not the thing we call "ourselves", which refers to the whole, but that little tip, which can never comprehend the larger object which it is part of. The iceberg just floats around. The tip thinks that it controls the iceberg with its thoughts, words, and wriggling from side to side, but really the iceberg is just floating. The iceberg itself has no free will, but the its tip can see the surface world, and thinks that it is in charge, but it isn't. No one's really in charge of you. Not even yourself. Only nature, if anything. And nature is quite hard to define. Nature is the way things logically are.

I'm far out too. But I guess that what I'm trying to convince people is that there is a logical explanation to everything, and logical conclusions to draw from everything. No magic. That's my faith. But I can't know for sure, ofcourse.

If there are any magic tricks present in our lives, it is the illusion of chance (by that I mean randomness or chaos---t's what I think).
 
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shiiK said:
Do you not find it curious that, though supremely powerful, our brain manages to control our body, formulate sentences in order to talk, maintain reflexes (insert a lot of other functions of less importance to the point here) and also think thoughts in multiple planes all simultaneously? For me it is quite obvious that not all the thoughts are processed at the same place.

Example; while walking a human is capable of sending an sms, while talking to a friend, while thinking about what the friend says and what to reply to that, while thinking of what to have for dinner, while thinking of what happened yesterday - all at the exact same time. The walking, talking and communication is, to me, obviously human. It is human thoughts the other two as well, but I don't think that's what the brain is thinking, I think that is your supreme self. Your supreme self is also processing other thoughts that you as a human fail to recognize.
To me its just the brain... :p
And about doing more then one thing at a time, well it's basic science... and so that you know, females are better at doing so since their brains differ slightly then the male brains.

The thing which is supreme in life is how the earth and the universe came to be perfect at creation... how it function perfectly and how one thing preserves the presence of the other. Basically, the supreme thing in life is how everything came to existence in such perfect forms. Other than that, the perfectness in nature, human beings, the earth, the universe, and what's there... is their normal function.
 
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That's your definition of life? Bah...!

"Free will" is a romantic falsehood born out of slavery.
falsehood? free will is free will, you can do whatever you want, so many people do this, everyone does it, you see it everyday, it's our right as humans.


I am a religious dude according to my own definitions (according to which most ppl are), but I don't believe in life after death. I don't KNOW whether there is life after death, and I see only one way to discover, which I don't plan on trying on purpose.
BUT I do believe that if we die for good with no afterlife, all out worries die with us. That is a logical conclusion if you ask me. I seriously can't see how there can be any doubt about that.
yes, basically that's what I'm saying.
 
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falsehood? free will is free will, you can do whatever you want, so many people do this, everyone does it, you see it everyday, it's our right as humans.
As long as we live in a capitalist world with such a trade system... freedom is just a part of our imagination and the freedom we enjoy is just virtual and temporary.
As long as we're dealing with money the way we do nowadays, there is no such a thing as "freedom" for we're the slaves of several major corporations. I could go into details on this topic... but meh, this thread is about death and not freedom :p
 
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no i just find it a fact that if we had more death and less population this world would have less problems like taking out religion we wouldn't have so much wars its a sad truth of life.
 
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Actually the resources we've got on earth are more than enough for the current population, whether food, water, electricity or whatever... and most of the needed resources tend to be recyclable and would last for billions of years.

But as I was saying few moments ago, that there is no such a thing as freedom in such a world with such a economical system. What I mean is, the purpose for such a troublesome world is greediness and having the power concentrated at the level of few major worldwide corporations.
 
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your right about freedom there isn't unless you have money then you have freedom but barley any really.

and on the death part yes we may have water and food but do we have space?
 
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Death is simply the fact that your brained stop all it's activitie, thus making you stop breathing, your lungs stop bringing oxygen to your blood and your heart, stop sending blood everywhere, which cause all cells to die one after another.

So technically, you can ''die'' for a few minutes, the problems that might occurs are:

1- Your brained stopped for too long and won't start again.
2- Too many cells died already.

Death is also a person, if you were refering to that. Also known as the ''Grim'' Reaper or Angel of Death:

Angel_of_Death-1.jpg

ty so much for this picture, i've been inspired to porgress on a model i'm making. +rep
 
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no i just find it a fact that if we had more death and less population this world would have less problems like taking out religion we wouldn't have so much wars its a sad truth of life.

What does taking out Religion have to do with reducing the population??

You have some serious issues. Having a better world when you got a smaller population is one thing, but thinking it would be better to achieve this through death is really, really wrong. If you're going to do anything like this, better start by reducing birthrate instead of killing off people.

I would like to die for 10 mins, and to revive after.
Because I want to feel death. To sense it.

What? You can't sense death because of the very definition of death. Namely being unable to experience anything.
The only thing you can sense is dying, after which you stop sensing anything.
Even if you believe in after-life where you *can* experience things, death itself cannot be experienced.
 
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o no nothing with religion actually it causes more deaths. Now how would you achieve a smaller population with death may i ask because its the only way 2 make a smaller population really and i would also say somethings about ways 2 limit the population but i would probably offend a certain race so nvm about that.
 

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A certain race, tigers?
All humans are humans, we're not divided in races.

Aight, you can't achieve shrink in population without absence of life, but that doesn't mean you should cause death to occur more regularly than it already does. The way they do it in China is overly effective, but truly cruel. You are only allowed one child, and that child is supposed to be a male. Obviously someone gets to keep their females as well, but the general idea is that if you get more than one offspring, they will be killed. It is an awful plan, but the fact is that if it is thoroughly executed, the population will be halved over time - not to mention if it's all boys, you won't have any population in the end.. good thinking.
 
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lol the boy part is the reason that planned failed, say if we took the whole world as 1 and everybody on it could only have 1 child till the population goes down a little that would work but in some places sorry but this 1 goes back 2 religion they wont allow like birth pills or some or they cant afford it or something and there goes into the count of anther child being born into a world that has no mercy for them.

lol o ya race now i see that sorry i meant type of humans i guess it would be.
 
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Death is what happens when you partied too hard, and can't partied hard anymore, and then people start to forget about you unless you did a really awesome job of partied harding.
 
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A certain race, tigers?
All humans are humans, we're not divided in races.

Aight, you can't achieve shrink in population without absence of life, but that doesn't mean you should cause death to occur more regularly than it already does. The way they do it in China is overly effective, but truly cruel. You are only allowed one child, and that child is supposed to be a male. Obviously someone gets to keep their females as well, but the general idea is that if you get more than one offspring, they will be killed. It is an awful plan, but the fact is that if it is thoroughly executed, the population will be halved over time - not to mention if it's all boys, you won't have any population in the end.. good thinking.

There were alot of races that came from the species homo. Such as the most famous Neanderthal, which by the way, we killed out.

no i just find it a fact that if we had more death and less population this world would have less problems like taking out religion we wouldn't have so much wars its a sad truth of life.

Religion is actually the biggest cause of wars and deaths from the beginning of time. More people have died in the name of God of gods, then for any other reason.


Death = no life
Real question = What Is Life?

Real question is What is the meaning of life.
Which the answer is to reproduce.

We are all like bacteria, just as it reproduces and takes over cells or other organisms we do the same. If you look at New York city from an airplane you see all these factories and smoke and its just like we destroyed nature when you compare that view for the view of a beautiful intact forest.

Although we are creating nature through buildings and cars. It is all evolution, although might not be beautiful just like bacteria growing and taking over an organism.

We have to reproduce to stay alive, its incoded into our primal animal instincts. It what we do.
 

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There were alot of races that came from the species homo. Such as the most famous Neanderthal, which by the way, we killed out.



Religion is actually the biggest cause of wars and deaths from the beginning of time. More people have died in the name of God of gods, then for any other reason.




Real question is What is the meaning of life.
Which the answer is to reproduce.

We are all like bacteria, just as it reproduces and takes over cells or other organisms we do the same. If you look at New York city from an airplane you see all these factories and smoke and its just like we destroyed nature when you compare that view for the view of a beautiful intact forest.

Although we are creating nature through buildings and cars. It is all evolution, although might not be beautiful just like bacteria growing and taking over an organism.

We have to reproduce to stay alive, its incoded into our primal animal instincts. It what we do.

Of course, but Neanderthals are not Human, they are a sub-species just like Humans are a sub-species, and by dividing Human, we would require sub-species of Humans, which is not defined. All Humans are Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
 
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Of course, but Neanderthals are not Human, they are a sub-species just like Humans are a sub-species, and by dividing Human, we would require sub-species of Humans, which is not defined. All Humans are Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

For now!

GO X-MEN!
 

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Not saying he does either, mind.

Care to fill in what exactly I said that is wrong? I didn't say Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens Sapiens were of the same immediate super-species. AFAIK, it is scientifically proven that our forefather (somewhere up in the ranks) also is the forefather of Neanderthals.

It is also pretty well-defined (even though there are differences between humans from different origins (skull-formation etc) that we are all Humans, and the differences are so slim that we are considered the same race.


Anyhow, this is straying off topic.

WHAT IS DEATH?
 
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Care to fill in what exactly I said that is wrong? I didn't say Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens Sapiens were of the same immediate super-species. AFAIK, it is scientifically proven that our forefather (somewhere up in the ranks) also is the forefather of Neanderthals.

It is also pretty well-defined (even though there are differences between humans from different origins (skull-formation etc) that we are all Humans, and the differences are so slim that we are considered the same race.


Anyhow, this is straying off topic.

WHAT IS DEATH?


^^ what he said.
 
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