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[EDIT: I guess i was the first??? wow.
Hero + Item thread out: click me senpai]
A few weeks ago I got my hands on the Warcraft 3 RoC Beta version and started digging inside its MPQs.
I found a bunch of cool files that can tell a lot about the initial Warcraft 3 plans and ideas.
[The main question I have - 'why has no one ever posted this before?' - is the first one I thought of when I discovered this, I guess no one ever checked if there were any diffirences in the Units folder?]
This is the first thread I am making about the early content I discovered and it's dedicated to soundfiles, second one is going to be about older versions of heroes and some units.
I have all the soundfiles attached here, you can check them out by yourself.
Sound Files.rar
The remeaning text by me is just speculating about the files, it's up to you to stay through this or just enjoy the trip back in time.
Hero + Item thread out: click me senpai]
A few weeks ago I got my hands on the Warcraft 3 RoC Beta version and started digging inside its MPQs.
I found a bunch of cool files that can tell a lot about the initial Warcraft 3 plans and ideas.
[The main question I have - 'why has no one ever posted this before?' - is the first one I thought of when I discovered this, I guess no one ever checked if there were any diffirences in the Units folder?]
This is the first thread I am making about the early content I discovered and it's dedicated to soundfiles, second one is going to be about older versions of heroes and some units.
I have all the soundfiles attached here, you can check them out by yourself.
Sound Files.rar
The remeaning text by me is just speculating about the files, it's up to you to stay through this or just enjoy the trip back in time.
Oh hi, you actually decided to stick around for my speculation, wow...
I will touch upon interesting facts about these soundfiles, each and everyone of them.
(why would i even dig in old wc3? idk, its kinda cool and it can tell a lot tbh)
Let's begin.
With the folders.
Goblin Merchant: he had a lot of dialogue so i decided to put them in a folder. Not only older merchant had multiple dialogues and Pissed dialogues as well, but he also had Goodbye dialogues, when your hero left the shop. That was a nice concept tbh.
Soundtracks?: I added these two because they had parts that are removed from the final game.
For Human3 its 1:18 and until 1:44.
For the Undead1 its the beginning parts, starting from 0:24 (and its the only soundtrack that has its composer and the album name written in it. Thanks, Derek.)
And now to the units and SFXs.
Berserker Target: was probably used for the forest troll with Berserk spell, although this sound is not used in the version i played (as most of these sounds tbh).
Cryptfiend Summon Vile Insects: I guess it was a predecessor to Crypt lord's beetles kind of a spell.
(as i said, im only speculating and guessing under this spoiler, although i WILL note some facts)
Dreadlord Morph: apparently, old dreadlord was a true vampire, since he could morph into bat and stuff... it totally was tied with the old dreadlord model.
Here begins something interesting - units have dialogues tied to their spellcasting. The idea was probably abandoned because of how often were the changes during the beta.
Druid of the Claw: this attack sound is a part of the beta DotC model, as i can guess.
We all know what the bear form is (10/10 puns btw), but Hibernation is totally a predecessor to Rejuvenation.
Dryad Weakness: if it stings a little, then it had to be something with her spears and/or poison.
Earthbind: since i checked the slk files as well, this was a spell later reused for DotT's Cyclone. Earlier orcish Shamans had this spell.
Goblin Zeppelin: also some dialogue for its transport abilities - probably when you right clicked a unit to load or tried to do that when it was filled.
Heal: I just enjoy this old heal sound so much. Yeah.
A theory i have is that they used the healing sound to reverse it, change a bit and create the mana sound. SOUNDS legit to me. (i gotta leave im a bad comedian)
Hero Abomination Attack: there are screenshots that had the abomination hero. Now we can hear the sounds this hero used to slam out on his enemies.
Orc Hit: Orcish units (not all of them) had these sounds. They are probably from the time when WC3 was more like RPG with the free camera. Uh, i hope you know about this stuff. Anyway, these sounds are cool, but the Head Hunter one got me laughing.
Demon Hunter: this tells us about old demon hunter skill set - Metamorphosis and Mind Lock are still in the game, though only the first one is actually used. Soul Syphon and Spectral Sight are something cool, apparently, since Spectral Sight is the Demon Hunter ability in World of Warcraft now.
Lich: Disenchant is probably the ability obsidian destroyer has, idk... We know Frost Armor, we know the Frost Wyrms (there are screenshots that had lich on them with the frost wyrm on the ultimate slot), but glacier is something i have no ideas about.
Moon Priestess: again, you gotta recall the old screenshots that had PotM flying on a huge owl, there's also a hidden icon for her. Notice how sounds actually contain wing sweeps, I only noticed it after a couple of days. Her skillset is interesting as well - Moon Glow and Reflection are the things we dont know about, True shot is probably for putting a skill point on an aura (maybe?) and Searing Light is totally Searing Arrows. Also there's a dialogue for Twilight - nice way to signal the time to use strategic advantage of the night elf females.
Paladin: he has a short version of this dialogue as one of his attack dialogues. Y u gotta reuse, blizz.
I can also tell you that there are some info about Exorcism - it had to be an ability against undead. I found it in the beta AI (probably used on E3) text file that told 'to check the enemy is the undead so paladin can put skill points in exorcism earlier' since its a race restricted spell.
Infernal Birth: a diffirent from the current birth where he falls down from the sky. Fun fact: this spell is listed for the neutral Warlock hero, and this hero has just this single spell. Later they probably cut the warlock idea and gave this to replace Dreadlord's Dark Summoning.
To be more true, the Inferno listed for this code is possessed by Tichondruis, currently.
Keeper of the Grove: has the longest dialogues, and also couple of the coolest.
As i can tell, his skillset didnt change (unless Nature Touch didnt actually summon treants).
Knight Charge: the only time ive ever heard word 'Azeroth' in WC3 was... never, as i can remember.
So thanks, knight. This sound is actually so epic.
Mortar Team: there's an unused Revenge ability, god knows what it does. Probably was a part of it.
Nercomancer: Corple Explode was an ability that was later replaced with Cripple. It exploded a corpse (WOW AN UNEXPECTED EFFECT) for 100 mana to deal 50 damage in the small area around it. This spell was in the version i played and as far as i can tell it deals pure damage, so its kinda cool. I hope i'll be able to exctact the exploding corps' SFX and model as well.
No Food nowadays says 'SUMMON more ziggurats', not RAISE. Raise sound better imo.
Unit attack nowadays is 'Our forces are under attack', earlier undead had more of a 'bretheren' theme i guess.
Summon Skeletons just says for itself. Yea.
Priest: also has Exorcism dialogue, but, again, like Paladin, it was reused as priests attack sound 'Be gone, spawn of darkness!'.
Heal dialogue is neat.
Rifleman: apparently, they had Flare before the Mortar Teams.
Sorceress: it was neat to know how she would sound like when casting. Also wat, they had water elementals? Crazy. Speaking of her water elemental sound
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) thanks, internet.
Water elemental summoning sound was utilized in the playable beta by archmage even tho sounds are located in the sorceress folder... i dont wanna get into weird Beta WC3 functioning.
Steam tank: had a wrecking ball to attack in the melee range instead of a dumb cannon. Still has the wrecking ball icon in RoC.
Thieves Guild: its a shame this building was removed. All we have left from it is the 'Spy' ability that doesnt even work :c
Wisp: I will be honest, i dont like NE adjutant, id actually prefer a bigger soundset for wisp. Blizz, make this happen. You do this for SC2, do this for WC3, i'd actually buy it (but my wallet does not guarantee it).
Wew, thats it. Why are you still here? Go download, comment, smth like that.
I will touch upon interesting facts about these soundfiles, each and everyone of them.
(why would i even dig in old wc3? idk, its kinda cool and it can tell a lot tbh)
Let's begin.
With the folders.
Goblin Merchant: he had a lot of dialogue so i decided to put them in a folder. Not only older merchant had multiple dialogues and Pissed dialogues as well, but he also had Goodbye dialogues, when your hero left the shop. That was a nice concept tbh.
Soundtracks?: I added these two because they had parts that are removed from the final game.
For Human3 its 1:18 and until 1:44.
For the Undead1 its the beginning parts, starting from 0:24 (and its the only soundtrack that has its composer and the album name written in it. Thanks, Derek.)
And now to the units and SFXs.
Berserker Target: was probably used for the forest troll with Berserk spell, although this sound is not used in the version i played (as most of these sounds tbh).
Cryptfiend Summon Vile Insects: I guess it was a predecessor to Crypt lord's beetles kind of a spell.
(as i said, im only speculating and guessing under this spoiler, although i WILL note some facts)
Dreadlord Morph: apparently, old dreadlord was a true vampire, since he could morph into bat and stuff... it totally was tied with the old dreadlord model.
Here begins something interesting - units have dialogues tied to their spellcasting. The idea was probably abandoned because of how often were the changes during the beta.
Druid of the Claw: this attack sound is a part of the beta DotC model, as i can guess.
We all know what the bear form is (10/10 puns btw), but Hibernation is totally a predecessor to Rejuvenation.
Dryad Weakness: if it stings a little, then it had to be something with her spears and/or poison.
Earthbind: since i checked the slk files as well, this was a spell later reused for DotT's Cyclone. Earlier orcish Shamans had this spell.
Goblin Zeppelin: also some dialogue for its transport abilities - probably when you right clicked a unit to load or tried to do that when it was filled.
Heal: I just enjoy this old heal sound so much. Yeah.
A theory i have is that they used the healing sound to reverse it, change a bit and create the mana sound. SOUNDS legit to me. (i gotta leave im a bad comedian)
Hero Abomination Attack: there are screenshots that had the abomination hero. Now we can hear the sounds this hero used to slam out on his enemies.
Orc Hit: Orcish units (not all of them) had these sounds. They are probably from the time when WC3 was more like RPG with the free camera. Uh, i hope you know about this stuff. Anyway, these sounds are cool, but the Head Hunter one got me laughing.
Demon Hunter: this tells us about old demon hunter skill set - Metamorphosis and Mind Lock are still in the game, though only the first one is actually used. Soul Syphon and Spectral Sight are something cool, apparently, since Spectral Sight is the Demon Hunter ability in World of Warcraft now.
Lich: Disenchant is probably the ability obsidian destroyer has, idk... We know Frost Armor, we know the Frost Wyrms (there are screenshots that had lich on them with the frost wyrm on the ultimate slot), but glacier is something i have no ideas about.
Moon Priestess: again, you gotta recall the old screenshots that had PotM flying on a huge owl, there's also a hidden icon for her. Notice how sounds actually contain wing sweeps, I only noticed it after a couple of days. Her skillset is interesting as well - Moon Glow and Reflection are the things we dont know about, True shot is probably for putting a skill point on an aura (maybe?) and Searing Light is totally Searing Arrows. Also there's a dialogue for Twilight - nice way to signal the time to use strategic advantage of the night elf females.
Paladin: he has a short version of this dialogue as one of his attack dialogues. Y u gotta reuse, blizz.
I can also tell you that there are some info about Exorcism - it had to be an ability against undead. I found it in the beta AI (probably used on E3) text file that told 'to check the enemy is the undead so paladin can put skill points in exorcism earlier' since its a race restricted spell.
Infernal Birth: a diffirent from the current birth where he falls down from the sky. Fun fact: this spell is listed for the neutral Warlock hero, and this hero has just this single spell. Later they probably cut the warlock idea and gave this to replace Dreadlord's Dark Summoning.
To be more true, the Inferno listed for this code is possessed by Tichondruis, currently.
Keeper of the Grove: has the longest dialogues, and also couple of the coolest.
As i can tell, his skillset didnt change (unless Nature Touch didnt actually summon treants).
Knight Charge: the only time ive ever heard word 'Azeroth' in WC3 was... never, as i can remember.
So thanks, knight. This sound is actually so epic.
Mortar Team: there's an unused Revenge ability, god knows what it does. Probably was a part of it.
Nercomancer: Corple Explode was an ability that was later replaced with Cripple. It exploded a corpse (WOW AN UNEXPECTED EFFECT) for 100 mana to deal 50 damage in the small area around it. This spell was in the version i played and as far as i can tell it deals pure damage, so its kinda cool. I hope i'll be able to exctact the exploding corps' SFX and model as well.
No Food nowadays says 'SUMMON more ziggurats', not RAISE. Raise sound better imo.
Unit attack nowadays is 'Our forces are under attack', earlier undead had more of a 'bretheren' theme i guess.
Summon Skeletons just says for itself. Yea.
Priest: also has Exorcism dialogue, but, again, like Paladin, it was reused as priests attack sound 'Be gone, spawn of darkness!'.
Heal dialogue is neat.
Rifleman: apparently, they had Flare before the Mortar Teams.
Sorceress: it was neat to know how she would sound like when casting. Also wat, they had water elementals? Crazy. Speaking of her water elemental sound
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) thanks, internet.
Water elemental summoning sound was utilized in the playable beta by archmage even tho sounds are located in the sorceress folder... i dont wanna get into weird Beta WC3 functioning.
Steam tank: had a wrecking ball to attack in the melee range instead of a dumb cannon. Still has the wrecking ball icon in RoC.
Thieves Guild: its a shame this building was removed. All we have left from it is the 'Spy' ability that doesnt even work :c
Wisp: I will be honest, i dont like NE adjutant, id actually prefer a bigger soundset for wisp. Blizz, make this happen. You do this for SC2, do this for WC3, i'd actually buy it (but my wallet does not guarantee it).
Wew, thats it. Why are you still here? Go download, comment, smth like that.
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